A widow’s mite of chastity

One of the things the Covid-19 pandemic took from me was the chance to see the concerts and performances that my daughters would have had at the end of their freshman and senior years. One of the things I was given in their place was a chance to argue with vaccine skeptics online.

Some of the people who rejected the Covid-19 vaccines were always vaccine denialists, while others slid from hesitancy to skepticism to outright rejection. They all tried to sound coolly rational about it, but surprisingly few of them actually said something like: “Sorry, not for me. The science is real and I’m grateful for the vaccines and other medical treatments, but I’m young and healthy, and the risks from Covid are low enough that I’ll sit this one out.” I could almost understand that perspective – no one likes needles, and I react badly enough to vaccinations that a full course of injections and boosters collectively laid me out about as long and as badly as my actual Covid infection. (After a few people my age or younger in my extended circle of family and friends died from Covid, I’ll keep taking my shots when recommended, thank you very much.)

But if you pushed back on the skepticism, you would start to hear things like: The vaccine trials were rushed. I’m avoiding the risk of myocarditis. I’m waiting for a traditional, better-understood vaccine. There are cheaper treatments that work just as well, like Vitamin D, Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine.

So you pushed back a little more and talked about statistics and study design, and how the studies caught signals for even rare side-effects like myocarditis; and that none of the alternative treatments were ever found to work better than placebo in large, randomized controlled trials; and that it’s very clear that excess deaths rose with Covid and fell with vaccination.

But the human thirst for confirmation being what it is, the rejoinder soon came: You can’t trust Big Pharma to report honestly on the vaccine trials. You can’t trust the FDA, NIH, or other government agencies. They suppressed cheap interventions that could have saved millions (or didn’t test for the proper dosage of zinc). Ultimately, you arrived at a place of nihilistic skepticism where no government official, Republican or Democrat or other, of any nation in the world, could be trusted; and all pharmaceutical companies and medical personnel (except for a brave few on YouTube) and scientific journals were part of a global, coordinated effort to suppress the truth. After the demolition of all ways of discovering or having confidence in medical knowledge, “It’s the lizard people who control everything” is one of the less noxious explanations people are left with.

As I watched this play out, it felt familiar. It was like watching discussions of sexual morality on Mormon blogs over the last few decades.

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Why do we as members of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believe what we do about sexual morality (the “Law of Chastity”), which limits the expression of sexual intimacy to married men and women?

We might describe the sources of our knowledge as ancient scripture, modern scripture, and prophetic counsel. Yet after an apostle says in General Conference that sex outside marriage is wrong or cites the Proclamation on the Family, online discussion follows a familiar pattern.

There are disgruntled protests that General Conference talks or the Proclamation aren’t canonized scripture. Faced with the modern revelation that undergirds the apostolic statements, people appeal to the New Testament. Confronted with Paul’s unambiguous statements in Romans or Corinthians or Ephesians, they respond that Paul was not Jesus. But I ask you: Does the man who said, “For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders… All these evil things come from within, and defile the man” sound like someone who approved of extramarital sex? As Latter-day Saints, we are not left to do our own research about what the scriptures teach. To the extent that we are members of the Latter-day Saint community, we accept the prophets and apostles as authoritative commentators.

Why should you trust what Dallin H. Oaks or your bishop says about sexual morality? You might just as well ask why you should trust Anthony Fauci’s opinion about vaccination. All these people are only figureheads for whole edifices of knowledge. Once you start dismissing church teachings based on prophetic statements and modern revelation and ancient scripture, there’s soon nothing left. The real problem with supposing that the prophet has simply never asked the right question, or is too blinded by cultural presumptions to recognize the true answer, is that it is the epistemologically most destructive path. If you reject the teachings of Paul and Jesus and Joseph Smith and Dallin H. Oaks about human sexuality, why accept any of their other teachings?

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But what if you can’t live with, or within, the Law of Chastity? Are exit or an implosion of religious knowledge your only choices? There are better options.

You can accept and take responsibility for your imperfection instead of demanding that the Church affirm it in the face of centuries of its teachings. The great thing about the Law of Chastity is that it embeds human sexuality in a thick web of ritual, doctrine and narrative about family relationships and life and death and what comes before and after. If you are looking for meaning, the whole structure offers you many points of attachment, no matter your personal situation.

I don’t know if a widow’s mite worth of chastity will be sufficient after this life, but it is certainly better to approach the judgment bar hoping for mercy rather than demanding vindication. I don’t know if your widow’s mite of chastity will be enough to maintain unrestricted church membership or formal membership at all, but it respects the Church for what it is instead of asking it to be something else, and you can continue to love the things you love about it and maintain the relationships you’ve built up within it, both human and divine. You can just show up. If you keep coming on Sundays, people will find a place for you, no matter if or how your name appears on the rolls.


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21 responses to “A widow’s mite of chastity”

  1. I love it.

    Of course, as a social conservative, that’s an easy thing for me to say.

    Even so, I must confess that I was surprised by the reaction of so many conservatives to the First Presidency’s counsel on Covid-19. That was an eye-opener for me. Apparently our collective faith needs to be strengthened as much on the right as it does on the left.

    But that’s an easy thing for me to say too–because I was in a high risk group when I got my booster.

    That said, I hope that one of the lessons we’ve taken away from all of this is that prophetic counsel cuts in whatever direction it must–and that we should be willing to go wherever it takes us–even if, as Jonathan might say, our best effort to follow it amounts to no more than a widow’s mite

  2. I’d like to share a differing perspective…

    Isn’t it error to think of a widow’s mite as a small and easy sacrifice? Didn’t our Savior describe it as “all she had”? I think that expecting someone else to sacrifice a widow’s mite is asking far too much, and is going beyond what our Savior asked for.

  3. ji, that’s a fascinating insight. Do you have a favorite recipe for funeral potatoes?

  4. I don’t think we should treat disagreement with or questioning Church teachings on any subject as necessarily destructive to all religious authority. That creates a false dilemma: either accept every traditional teaching or unravel the entire faith. In reality, relious life In practice, religious traditions have always involved reinterpretation, development, and disagreement over doctrine.

    This post also leans heavily on appeals to authority rather than engaging in substantive moral analysis.

    While the conclusion invites imperfect people to “just show up,” the compassion there is limited by the assumption that dissenting members must permanently see themselves as morally deficient rather than as faithful believers who understand the tradition differently.

  5. Great post, Jonathan. I’d add that our insistence on the law of chastity makes our teachings surrounding other gender/sexuality topics a lot more credible. I have evangelical friends who lamented that some of their churches’ permissive approach to chastity undermined their teachings about biblical marriage and family arrangements back in the run up to Obergefell. I suspect that some of the people advocating a more indulgent line on chastity have this as ulterior motive.

  6. Jonathan, No, I’m sorry but I don’t.

  7. Anon, the problem is not the doubts or questioning, it’s the way that people have rushed to embrace the most epistemologically destructive way to deal with their doubts and questions. Honest doubt is coupled with humility towards one’s own views rather than certitude.

    Christian belief and Church membership necessarily implies acknowledgment of authorities of various kinds. One either accepts that certain texts have scriptural authority and reasons from them, or one doesn’t; we either accept certain people as authoritative interpreters of scripture, conveyers of divine will, and organizers of church affairs, or one does not. If we’re going to discuss something as Christians and church members, then we have to land on one side of that line. The authority of a particular person or text may not be absolute – it usually isn’t – but it certainly exists and can’t be ignored.

    Another consequence of Christian belief is accepting that we – you, me, everyone else – are in fact morally deficient. The central ordinance of our weekly worship is meant to remind us of that.

  8. ji, I’m very disappointed by that. I would feel a lot better if you would share your system prompt with us.

  9. Jonathan, I’m not understanding what you’re saying (I don’t know what a system prompt is), but I am discerning a lack of charity on your part. I think I offended you with my comment, and I am sorry for that, but I offered it honestly.

  10. ji, however you’ve been using AI recently, it’s not working. A human being would have stopped before writing, essentially, that you strongly disagree with the opposite of my post.

  11. TexasAbuelo

    “Vaccine sceptics,” “vaccine denialists”, wow.. seem pretty strong feelings there… particularly in light of the fact real scientists are still trying to sort out fact from fiction on the data but one thing’s clear – the federal public health bureaucracy dropped the pelota big time.
    You can’t seem to let Covid, it’s associated vaccine, and Fauci et al, shenanigans go… and equating a life long government bureaucrat of now well established duplicity with the President of the Church seems a bit of a stretch, as does (maybe I’m not smart enough to get your reasoning) equating whether or not to live the law of chastity with whether or not getting the covid vaccine made sense…
    I’m just a country boy taught to first use the brains the good Lord gave me…but seems like an apples/gorillas comparison… not even in the same ball park… get over it…move on to other things mi hermanito

  12. Jonathan, I’ve never used AI in my life – I wouldn’t know where to start.

    I am sympathetic to your point. However, I did (and still do) have a differing perspective. It is easy for someone to offer a mite out of his abundance; indeed, that is really no sacrifice at all. But the widow the Savior observed sacrificed all she had. Yes, the “church” of the day accepted her offering, and our Savior sanctified it, but no one had the right to ask for that sacrifice from her, and our Savior did not ask that from her.

    However, it seems to me that you are asking for someone else to make a sacrifice — and it seems like you think it is a very small thing, and you do so from a position of privilege or abundance. That’s all well and good, I suppose, but you specifically called it a widow’s mite and thus you invoked the story from scripture. To me, it seems improper, maybe even uncharitable, to ask someone else to sacrifice all they have. Maybe the someone else from whom you are asking for a sacrifice might see what you are asking for as too much, and thus my differing perspective.

    I suppose there was a reason you wrote your article, and your thoughts may have been animated by the more egregious offenders in the “other” community you were addressing rather than the rank-and-file, so to speak, but I don’t know exactly whom you were addressing because you don’t say. But by asking for someone else to sacrifice what you see as small and characterizing it as a widow’s mite, you also invoked our Savior’s observation of the scene, and well, yes, it caused me some unease.

    Clearly, what I wrote offended you, and I am sorry for that — that was not my intention, as I am sympathetic to your point — but I was honestly troubled by your invocation of the widow’s mite to make your point.

    Anyway, all that said, I do not know if I should be honored or aggrieved that you thought I was using AI — this is new territory for me. Again, my apologies for offending you, as my purpose was only to offer a differing perspective.

  13. ji,

    I like to think of the widow’s mite as doing our best even if it doesn’t fix everything. In my case, even though I’m 100% orthodox I rarely attend church because of mental illness. And so I do what I can–my widow’s mite–to stay active in the church in other ways.

    That said, I think Jonathan is saying that in lieu of expecting the church to change in order to accommodate us it’s better for us to move in the direction of accommodating the church–even if we can’t move very far in that direction. If we do the best we can–even if it means baby steps–then that will be counted as the widow’s mite. And that, according to my personal experience, is good enough for now.

  14. I’m with Ji and very confused.

    I’ve been following the blogs for over a decade and have never seen posts about chastity that encourage a loose reading on sex before marriage.

    I have only ever seen posts about accepting people in same sex marriages so I’m assuming that’s what this is about? But maybe I’m just super out of touch.

    What does this mean from the OP:
    “I don’t know if your widow’s mite of chastity will be enough to maintain unrestricted church membership or formal membership at all”

    Why would “giving all you have” not be enough? It comes across as supporting the high suicide rates among LGBTQ youth in Utah.
    Especially after saying “I don’t know if a widow’s mite worth of chastity will be sufficient after this life”. Does the church have teaching I don’t know about?

    There is absolutely room for discussions (and I’ve seen many on the blogs) rightly calling out people who use appeals to authority and “support the prophet” messages only when it comes to supporting their previously held social beliefs (such as vaccine efficacy and heard immunity) that the prophet happens to agree with and then they ignore/challenge the prophet when a previously held belief is in question (such as allowing gay members to keep their membership if they aren’t having sex outside of marriage). Those are totally fair game.

    But this widow’s mite is a new comparison. Can you elaborate? What does a widows mite of chastity look like for a gay high schooler who is not sexually active? Is this post really for that kid? Or is it actually a post against the people advocating for change in the church (especially when they preach “follow the prophet” arrogantly but only on select topics) and is their widow’s mite of chastity actually just asking them not to advocate for change which is totally a fair but has nothing to do with their sex lives.

  15. The character assassination of Tony Fauci and the public health system represented in the comment above is rooted in such bad faith. Any judgement of the public health system must take into account that they were dealing with a new virus and a quickly evolving situation, in a cultural/political context where a large proportion of people actively consume a media diet filled with quacks and grifters, and all within an administration run by one of the least trustworthy people to hold that office (perhaps ever). Rather than simply face the fact that sometimes the natural world puts us in a situation with no pleasant options, these critics have taken their irritation out on the people most qualified to help the nation through the crisis. There may certainly be things that authorities could have done better, but I don’t see a universe where the same chorus of critics would have been any more supportive or compliant, because competence is not what they wanted. If it was, they would not have helped make RFK Jr the leading health official of the country. No, what they actually want is not to ever be personally inconvenienced on behalf society, and to feel socially respected even when they make terrible decisions (medical in this context).

  16. Tori, it’s only been just a few weeks since we had a commenter on here insisting that pornography use was good, actually. You shouldn’t have to dig too far on other sites to find the posts arguing that the law of chastity is stupid and we should actually teach consent instead (which would very much promote the loose reading on sex before marriage that you mention). The posts arguing that sex before marriage was just a normal part of being a sophisticated urban adult are somewhat older. If you can’t avoid reading the comment section, you’ll eventually see just about everything.

    The point of the widow’s mite is that it’s a minuscule amount. We understand that tithing contributions vary from person to person, and an honest tithe is acceptable, no matter the amount. Does the same principle apply to other commandments? Probably not, actually, but I’m putting it out for discussion.

    With chastity, we are all equal: we have one body whose chastity we control. There’s no mechanism that makes one person wealthy and able to give more, and someone else poor and able to give less. The contention from ji that no one can ask anyone else to give all they have in terms of chastity is weird and untrue, since we have been asked to do precisely that.

    There’s a shallow critique that says: some people are privileged when it comes to following the law of chastity. But none of us have any idea what price another pays to live within the law of chastity. The only body whose chastity we control is our own.

    Some people find the price is too high to bear. There are trans people for whom the dysphoria of living as their biological sex is excruciating. Gay people who can’t stand the thought of going through life unpartnered. Even the guy from a few weeks ago who, after a lifetime of pornography use, can no longer achieve sexual intimacy with his wife without it, might find the thought of spending the rest of his life without using pornography unbearable if it meant his sex life was over in his 40s. What can we tell them?

    A lot of people will tell them things that are ultimately destructive to faith, things like: The prophet has never asked, sexuality is none of the church’s business, the scriptures are silent on this issue. What these approaches have in common is that they undermine the church and the gospel as epistemological edifices. Once you kick out enough major planks, the whole thing crashes down. Some of these responses come from genuine empathy, and some of them come from people who want to hasten the collapse and don’t care who it hurts on the way down.

    But the law of chastity is also a beautiful structure of its own. It’s not just a series of thou-shalt-nots. The law of chastity embeds human sexuality in a whole construction of doctrine and ritual that is cosmological in scope. We’ve got baby blessings and Family Home Evening and eternal marriage and a vault in the Wasatch filled with genealogical data and a whole lot more. It’s amazing and wonderful and worth supporting.

    Notice that Jesus did not tell the widow that her sacrifice was pointless or misplaced. He did not try to correct her false consciousness concerning the temple in Jerusalem. Jesus was even known to use extreme measures to preserve the sanctity of the temple.

    So it seems like a much better and kinder response to people who decide they cannot live within the law of chastity for whatever reason to affirm their belief in the church they love, rather than tearing it down, while they support as much of the law of chastity as they can. Maybe they won’t be able to go inside the temple, but they can submit ancestral names for ordinances, if that is meaningful for them, for example. Family Home Evening is still worth having, however a family is configured, even for the guy with a porn habit he can’t kick.

    Is 90% a passing grade for the law of chastity? 60%? .02%? Not my call and, as I said, I wouldn’t count on it. Be prepared for the possibility that you are in fact the rich young man, showing up with a tithe of mint. But I think people will be better off with that .02% – their widow’s mite – in hand, rather than trying to argue that the law of chastity doesn’t say what it says, doesn’t matter, or doesn’t apply to them.

  17. Thank you for taking the time to respond Jonathan, I honestly read the comments and forgot about that one weird pornography post that brought out comments I did read but didn’t think much of. I wasn’t aware of a movement to change chastity to consent or any agitation for that. You learn something new every day.

    I’m still not sure why you attacked Ji for pointing out that they interpret the widow’s mite to be a story about giving everything and then you told me that it’s a story about giving a minuscule amount. Maybe we have to agree to disagree on what that story is about.

    I still read your line:
    “I don’t know if your widow’s mite of chastity will be enough to maintain unrestricted church membership or formal membership at all”
    As equivalent to telling someone who comes out as gay that you’d rather them be dead. If giving a widow’s mite is completely following everything the church says about chastity to a T then why would you still be unsure that it might not be enough for them to keep their membership?

  18. Jonathan, I’m really trying to understand here.
    Are you saying that the widow who gave 100% is comparable to someone who doesn’t follow everything 100%?

    If the story is about giving “all she had” (which I interpret as 100%) then why would that not be enough? The math isn’t working for me.

    For the record, I’m totally fine with telling people that X is the standard and that their opportunities for involvement will be different if they only do a part of X. But how does that relate to the widow who gave 100% and clearly met the standard?
    Why would someone who meets the standard still not be good enough?

  19. Tori, here are some things I did not say:

    The widow’s mite means giving everything.
    The widow’s mite means giving 100%.
    The widows’ mite means completely following everything the church says about chastity to a T.

    If you want to interpret it that way, that’s fine, but you’ll have to talk to someone else who shares that interpretation, or discuss it in some other context. That’s not what this post is about.

    For my purposes here, the metaphorical widow’s mite means giving as much as is possible for you based on your circumstances. That’s it. If you still read into that that I want gay people to die (seriously, how the hell do can you possibly think that’s what I’m saying?), then I regret taking the time to answer your question.

  20. I wonder if it would clarify the analogy to replace “the widow’s mite” with “five loaves and two fishes.”

    The widow gave all that she had, and it was enough. The boy with the loaves and fishes gave what he had on hand in the moment, and it was not nearly enough. But his offering was transformed by Jesus’ power so there was enough and to spare.

    Here’s how I understand Jonathan’s message: If you’re convinced you cannot live the law of chastity, fine. Do what you can, but don’t try to convince yourself it’s okay. Don’t lower the bar until you can clear it. If you can’t make full obedience a goal, keep it as a hope, or even a wish.

    Meanwhile, stick with the Church and obey the other commandments as best you can. Do that faithfully, and in process of time your offering–yourself–will be transformed by the power of Christ’s atonement until your obedience to the law of chastity is enough. But if you convince yourself you don’t need or even want that transformation, he will respect your agency and not give it to you.

    In reality, this describes most of our efforts to live the gospel.

    @Tori: I started out assuming this was about same-sex relationships too. Isn’t that what all arguments are about in the blogosphere? (Not so much any more, fortunately.)

  21. chantel crayle

    “27 Then came to him certain of the Sadducees, which deny that there is any resurrection; and they asked him,”
    The Sadducees, BELIEVING ONLY IN THIS EARTHLY EXISTENCE, are so threatened by Jesus’ ability to influence & reduce their authority over people, that they send spies/hecklers into the crowds to publicly expose/humiliate him by asking what they perceive as unanswerable questions. However, it backfires as Jesus is able to use these as teaching moments to expose them. He completes answers and then introduces the new topic regarding specific common behaviors & motivations of fraudsters/liars to help us identify truths.

    Then in the audience of all the people he said unto his disciples,

    46 Beware of the scribes, which desire to walk in long robes, and love greetings in the markets, and the highest seats in the synagogues, and the chief rooms at feasts;

    47 Which devour widows’ houses, and for a shew make long prayers: the same shall receive greater damnation.

    21
    And he looked up, and saw the rich men casting their gifts into the treasury.

    2 And he saw also a certain poor widow casting in thither two mites.

    3 And he said, Of a truth I say unto you, that this poor widow hath cast in more than they all:

    4 For all these have of their abundance cast in unto the offerings of God: but she of her penury hath cast in all the living that she had.

    If when reading you do not include the beginning of this new topic starting in Luke 20, it almost seems like either 46-47 or the statement of the widow’s mite stands alone, without a strong continuity, beginning or end to either the prior answered question or the following 21:5 new question regarding the decadent opulence of the temple. So, the question is, what was the connected point of the widow’s mite applying the previous description of fraudsters/liars 20:46-47? I think it has more to do with 1st, it exemplifies the perspective of those who believe in eternal life & those who don’t. The widow’s mite was a metaphor of her testimony; a belief that the things of this life are of little value compared to the blessings of life eternal. Whereas, all the Sadducees wealth & power was tethered to this existence only, so they would do anything & everything to keep it.

    So when seeking clarification of the question of chastity, or any question, is to accept that there is a difference between questioning to gain truth/knowledge, seek & you shall find & searching for support of your already accepted position. Also, who/what are your sources. Who benefits? By their actions you shall know them. Are your choices based on an eternal or life ends here, perspective? If your perspective is from an eternal standpoint, then you will also have to accept that not all questions will be answered quickly because learning is an eternal process, but we already have some of these tools provided here to continuously learn & assess with the promise of Knock & it shall be open to you, not argue amongst yourselves & just figure it out on your own.

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