This is bad for the Church

Personalist autocracies are bad for 99.99% of the people who live under them. By enabling bribery and corruption, they’re a significant drag on the economy. A few people get rich, while everyone else ends up worse off. By promoting incompetent but loyal functionaries, they make it difficult to accomplish important government tasks or provide the kind of information – about the economy, health, even the weather – that individuals and institutions need for basic decision-making. With scientific and academic research deprecated and artistic direction dictated by the autocrat’s tastes, science and culture tend to stagnate, and talent migrates to greener pastures.

While economic contraction and cultural stagnation have negative consequences for individuals, that doesn’t necessarily mean that the Church as an institution will also be adversely affected. But in this case, it’s true: The Trump administration is bad for the Church, its members, and the fulfillment of its missions. It’s bad in comparison to both the alternative Democratic administration that was on offer and compared to the meager advantages of a Trump administration that might be envisioned (such as continued noninterference with BYU’s housing and hiring policies, already safe with a Supreme Court that leans 6-3 conservative).

Specifically:

Trump’s personal embodiment of self-indulgence, fraud, sexual assault, and flaunted luxury, not to mention his administration’s extraordinary efforts on behalf of a misogynistic pimp-influencer on trial for rape and human trafficking, undercut the Church’s efforts to teach industry, honesty, chastity, and modesty. The Church has rightly cautioned young people against seeing celebrity lifestyles as their ideals, but they need better role models than Donald Trump.

The pervasive scapegoating of immigrants and elimination of support for refugees affect many Church members personally and the communities in which the Church finds converts. The Church has invested substantial resources in welcoming refugees, but those efforts may become untenable. More perniciously, the whole question of family origin is becoming freighted with anxiety, hindering family history work even on a local level. (Imagine that you’re a recent immigrant in a foreign country with limited command of the local language and a newcomer’s understanding of its politics. All you know is that the new president wants to deport immigrants, while a mysterious group has gained unprecedented access to government databases. How willing are you to entrust your personal information to a family history database, or record the whereabouts of yourself and your ancestors over the last century?)

For many decades, the Church has advanced its international reputation and gained access for its missionaries in parallel with the U.S. government. A sudden and careless pullback of U.S. aid – leaving malnourished infants to starve and ailing children to die – along with callous renunciation of our debts to long-standing allies are leaving the U.S. isolated. The tarnishing of America’s image will make it harder for missionaries to be heard nearly everywhere, while doing nothing to gain access to countries that no U.S. citizen can enter without risk of arbitrary detention. There have been church members in Mexico and Canada for 150 years, and it’s common for American members to have Canadian friends and family members. My own temple lies across the border, in a city where two Canadians are buried who gave their lives in our defense when we called for their aid after 9/11.  How can I expect to be received there in friendship – how can I even show my face – as the president jokes-but-not-really about annexing Canada?

Perhaps the most damaging walls and borders for the Church are the ones that threaten to go up between ward members. The enemies Trump and his administration are most intent on fighting are his fellow citizens. He has no interest in representation or fair treatment for all Americans, only in personal favor for his loyal supporters. So far my own ward has fortunately seen no signs of political division – even the people I assume (based on their 2A-friendly bumper stickers) to be Trump voters have expressed relief that church is a place where they can get away from political conflict. I hope my ward can continue as a space free from political contention, but personalist autocracies tend to politicize and polarize everything they touch. The Church has taken pains to seek out a mainstream centrist position in recent decades, but its neutral position is threatened by a Trump administration that sees only friends and enemies.

Finally, the Trump administration creates real obstacles for the Church’s promotion of its message and accomplishment of its missions by narrowing or eliminating the space between unacceptable reputational and regulatory risk. With the full spectrum of regulatory bureaucracy and federal criminal agencies at his disposal and lowered guardrails against arbitrary enforcement, the risks to any organization (or at least any organization that hopes to pursue its goals in the medium or long term) from opposing an autocrat become very high and rarely worth the point of contention: Google’s management rationally concluded that renaming the Gulf of Mexico and sending a million-dollar donation to the Trump inauguration is a small price to pay for safeguarding its fiduciary duty to its shareholders. But autocrats and their incompetent administrations are not just disliked by many of their citizens, but deeply loathed, so that any degree of association or accommodation risks steep and enduring reputational risks. The middle ground of acceptable risk becomes more and more difficult to find, until eventually it may disappear altogether, leaving only bad and awful alternatives. For a church with a worldwide mission that includes ministry to both loyalists and opponents of the administration and aspirations to carry its ministry far into the future, it creates a difficult environment where speaking out or refusing to compromise is rarely worth the cost, until some element of the core mission is endangered. And at that point, every outcome is bad.

I’m not going to tell the deck officers of the Old Ship Zion what to do. I want them to have maximum freedom to maneuver through treacherous waters without being distracted by my demands for a tour of the bridge. I don’t expect this cruise to be smooth or pleasurable. But we are a home-based, family-centered church, and as for me and my tiny lifeboat in the flotilla, we will keep rowing towards the promised land.


Comments

29 responses to “This is bad for the Church”

  1. Ridiculous. Please get off your high horse and return to reality. God is in control, not Trump. He gives His children what they want and need. He used foolish Biden to teach us, and now uses Trump to teach us. Jesus was not on the ballot for President last year, even though He was on the ballot for Governor of Utah last year. And He finished last!

  2. Trump’s going to destroy the Republic. Put a fork in Amercian – we’re done.

  3. “The Gulf of America” was a test–recall that Trump did something similar in 2016 by insisting more people came to his inauguration than Obama’s. It distinguishes between those who are submissive enough to deny reality at his command (Google), and those who are willing to defy him and must be punished (AP). Trump does this kind of forced sorting a lot–he’s not okay with people being neutral–and the Church and its leaders need to do everything they can to avoid being confronted with a similar dilemma.

  4. Tom, God has delegated a lot of things, including how we organize and run our societies, to…us. And we have to be aware that some of a society’s decisions help the Church fulfill its missions, and some thwart it. With most missionaries and Church leaders still being from the U.S., it’s bad if countries who were our allies last month are backing away, and when Canadians are absolutely livid at the U.S. and boycotting American products.

    Lily, the prognosis is poor, but I am not yet ready to put a fork in America. Other countries have come back from worse. But turning this around might not be much fun.

    RLD, I hope so too, but sometimes I wonder if we’ll make it to next week without a head-on collision. I don’t know what issue would cause it, but it’s hard to say what the issue of the day will be next week.

  5. Stephen Fleming

    Are you just pointing out the difficulty of the situation or is there something you’re hoping the church will do? I know you said you didn’t want to give any advice, but I’m just curious if you had anything in mind.

    I also found this statement curious: “as for me and my tiny lifeboat in the flotilla, we will keep rowing towards the promised land.” That kind of sounds like having a family goal religious goal with or without the church. If so, again, I’m curious what you have in mind.

  6. Tom, it’s not a high horse. It’s reality. Give Trump a half year, and nobody will be singing his praises, even MAGA Mormons.

  7. rickpowers

    Excellent. But, as they say, it’s a day late and a dollar short. Welcome to dystopia.

  8. Geoff – Aus

    I just got an email from my stake president saying there will be special stake conference in a couple of weeks and there will be 2 general authorities in attendance. My first thought was, if they are American, did they vote for trump? As 2/3 of members, including GAs, did do they have any moral authority? Did God remove his authority for the lack of moral judgement involved? I believe so.

    Trump is doing so much damage to respect for law, respect for truth, respect for women, respect for diverse groups of people, respect for America, the climate of the world, and the ballance of power in the world. America has free trade agreements with various countries including Canada, Mexico, and Australia. These a legal documents, but are difficult to enforce if one party no longer has any morality.

    I find it offensive to hear trump say God bless America, like he is Gods mouthpiece.

    With regard to Ukraine please look up the Budapest memorandum. In 1994 Ukraine signed an agreement with Russia, America, France, and UK, that if Ukraine gave up its nuclear stockpile (it had the third largest in the world) the signature countries would defend its borders and sovereignty. Russia reneged, now America has too.

    America is no longer the leader of the free world. If Trump goes over to the autocrats, that is even more of a problem.

    It is a problem too for the church to be affiliated with the new America. If they were leading protests or organizing a general strike against trump they might regain some moral credibility, but they don’t seem to have a problem with it, at all.

  9. I was under the impression that God spits out lukewarm water. He prefers it hot or cold

  10. jader3rd

    Could the emigrating of American talent abroad help spread the church to other countries? Instead of missionaries it would be individuals moving to the foreign countries.

  11. Stephen F., those are good questions. There are some things I’d like to see the Church do, but that would probably be a terrible idea. I can think of other things the Church could usefully do (like funnel cash to refugee resettlement programs like Lutheran Social Services), while staying completely invisible. I honestly don’t know what public action the Church should take now. I worry about what it might have to do in the future. As for our lifeboat, well, the safety of the flotilla is still usually the best option.

    Rick Powers, we’ve got a while to go before dystopia. At least a couple more exit ramps. As someone said – in 2004, I think? – after the election is before the election.

    Geoff, I understand Australia’s concerns, but we have secret ballots in the U.S., so there really is no way to know how anyone else voted.

    Jader3rd, that’s an interesting idea that hadn’t occurred to me. Maybe if enough people make the leap, it could be a benefit to wards and branches in other countries. I’ve often suspected that academic and professional hiring was one way that Church members dispersed across the country in the 20th century, building up wards and branches as they went. (For anyone considering a chance to live abroad for a while, three thoughts: 1. Go! You won’t regret it. 2. Learn the language as your top priority – they’ll need you to hold a calling whether or not you can speak the language, but you can be more useful if you do. 3. Having a ward or branch wherever you end up is worth more than whatever you may have paid in tithing or fast offerings before this point in your life.)

  12. “Having a ward or branch wherever you end up is worth more than whatever you may have paid in tithing or fast offerings before this point in your life.”

    Yes! The community of the saints is my country regardless of where its located.

  13. One of the major employers of Americans living overseas is the US government, and the current political environment is taking a major toll on US government employees living overseas on government orders (which includes USAID employees). It’s extremely difficult to live and work overseas if your employer is constantly threatening to fire you, or when Americans are calling your work corrupt. If we want LDS Americans to move overseas, it’s probably worth considering whether the US government is making that feasible right now.

    Also, USAID and the State Department (and in some cases, DOD) have sent members of the church to a much wider variety of places than your typical academic or business jobs that concentrate their employees in major capitals. Of course, there are plenty of academic and business jobs that don’t send people to Singapore or Frankfurt, but in my experience living overseas, it’s diplomats and aid workers who work in a wider variety of places.

    If you do go, be realistic about learning the language well enough to actually use it in a meaningful way at church. You might be able to pick up enough of the language to be friendly with fellow ward members without too much effort, but if you’re living life as a functional adult, especially if you have children, you won’t be flying into Antananarivo and quickly learning Malagasy well enough to serve as a Relief Society president. And that’s a good thing, because there’s probably a capable woman in your ward or branch who can be RS president rather than the American transplant.

    Or you might find a job in a country or city where there is no church presence. I hope that you either are male or aren’t worried about taking the sacrament because you’ll be out of luck if there’s not a man to provide the sacrament for you. You cannot count on a community of saints of you go much outside the typical countries Americans work in.

    Or maybe it’s worth considering whether we need American influence in wards and branches around the world. I currently live in a mission where there are no American sister missionaries. There are a few American elder missionaries, but no sisters. That means that women serve their entire missions here without ever having an American companion, and that is an amazing thing in a church that is heavily dominated by Americanness.

  14. Leon Michael

    Well,if you are worried about starving Africans-don‘t(USAID). The Russians and Chinese have been involved in Africa way before the United States. Anyway, the Church could always step in and help their population quadruple. God forbid you ask your bishop for a box of macaroni & cheese.

  15. Leon M., there is no version of Christianity that ignores starving people. The Church does aid people in Africa, and elsewhere. If you are food insecure, your bishop would be very happy to help – the Church has a whole system for people in that situation.

  16. jader3rd – I know a number of people who are actively taking steps to move out of the US because of the political situation – either to the EU or New Zealand. Every single one is part of the LGBTQ community and doing so from a place of fear of being persecuted. I have yet to hear of a single LDS family wanting to move. Maybe that will change in the coming years, but I think it more likely LDS families will want to go somewhere like Utah because they feel safer in the center of the fold.

  17. TexasAbuelo

    I thought initially maybe this was tongue in cheek – but no – you appear serious as a heart attack. Amazingly you somehow have convinced yourself the democrat party’s alternative would have somehow been better. An alternative headed by a complete and total incompetent, incapable of putting together two or three coherent thoughts on any policy matter of substance. Somehow completely unencumbered by any meaningful leadership or executive experience, basic knowledge of economics or global energy policy — just for starters. Someone who’d stood by while her incompetent boss with the failing mental faculties had been left in place as a puppet for four years while un elected, un nominated and unconfirmed party apparatchiks ran the country behind the scenes ran the country. That was your preferred candidate? Someone who would have left the federal bureaucratic leviathan, which believes itself to be a power unto itself and not subject to the elected head of the Executive Branch to which the leviathan belongs, to continue on un-examined, unchecked, untested, unverified…. which means the public would have never seen what DOGE is not surprisingly turning up. That would have been your preference. Get off your virtuous self appointed mormon moral high horse… we weren’t electing a minister (not that Kamala was any Ms Virtue making her way to the top of California democrat party politics); we were electing a leader, an chief executive to do what he promised and what we voted for. And he’s doing what we voted to have done.

  18. your food allergy

    ReTx,
    I am in an LDS family that wants to move. I buy into the American exceptionalism myth, believing this country has historically been special because of its moral foundation. We have accomplished incalculable good in the world on the net. But I think we are quickly losing our values and becoming just another crappy, self-interested country but with below-average leadership competence. I want nothing to do with this alignment with autocrats. We are looking at Canada.

  19. ReTx,
    You can also add my family to the LDS emigrant pool. We’re looking at Australia.

    Regarding church aid in Africa, unfortunately the fast offerings situation is far different there. We work regularly with a branch president and his wife in an African nation on various non-profit efforts. We have learned through this that many stakes and missions there have strict limits on how much a branch president can distribute. For example, in the area where my friend serves, he can only distribute to a family an amount that would buy beans and rice for a month (one or two meals
    Per day), and only for three months. Then they’re cut off completely.

  20. TexasAbuelo

    To all who wish to leave I say adios, and here’s wishing you all the best…. I hope you find what you’re looking for somewhere else.

    As to church FO assistance in poverty stricken countries – the description given by Cocoa sounds about right. Those were thevrules in the 70’s and early 80’s in Latin America during the boom boom growth years. My last tour as bishop ended in Latin America ended in’83. Without the strict controls the FO expenditures would have spun out of control. Of course now in the US we send members to the government doles FIRST, before dipping into FO funds. Particularly emphasized since death of last Welfare Program Stalwart and JRClark, Jr discipl – TSMonson.

  21. TexasAbuelo, your understanding of last year’s election is badly distorted, and what your write about it is false. If that’s what you’re getting from the sources you surround yourself with, you urgently need to read other media outlets. The ones you have been looking at are misleading you. We’ve now had 50 days to see what a second Trump presidency is like, and it is worse than the pessimists predicted, with flagrantly unqualified people undermining the missions of important government departments they are supposed to lead, open corruption, chaos in the marketplace, and the world growing more dangerous as countries who were our allies for decades or centuries turning away in fear and disgust.

    Kamala Harris served as California attorney general, senator, and vice president. She was eminently qualified, and she did not have a history of bankrupting companies, defrauding consumers, or sexual assault. None of this would be happening with her as president. Open your eyes.

  22. TexasAbuelo

    Jonathan Green: you’ve broken up my day with a great laugh. Harris couldn’t get out 3 sentences that made sense- hardly qualified. Her being party to an extraordinary presidential fraud- definitely a disqualification. Amazing to me that at this point you’ve missed basic factual reporting from things discovered by a small crew of eminently qualified folks. They’re finding extraordinary corruption- not the reverse. I’m flabbergasted at your level of ignorance at what’s happening. You’re obviously not in a fact driven business.None of what DOGE has found is surprising to any experienced private sector manager who’s taken over an entrenched bureaucracy. This kind of first pass assessment and dramatic slash is the common strategy in over bloated bureaucratic organizations that haven’t been subjected to rigorous disciplined scrutiny for years. The federal bureaucracy, believing they’re a power unto themselves impervious to the control of its elected chief executive, are way overdue for the dramatic reduction in staff and updating of systems and processes which is now underway . You are right in one thing… we would have “business as usual “ if Harris had won. With a total and complete incompetent in charge and anyone’s guess who would really be running things. That’s why so many voted against her…that was destroying the country. And the marketplace upheaval towards long term goals is what we need… we’re watching dynamic economic policy play out… love it! Tske a course on world geography, energy policy, economics, and global transportation economics. Then come back

  23. TexasAbuelo: This is what happens when you stop recognizing propaganda for what it is. People can edit videos to show only a candidate’s worst blunders. You can watch it as entertainment if you want. But adults need to understand that it is not reality.

    If you want a thoughtful conservative plan to trim government spending, various right-wing think tanks had that covered. There are people who understand how government works and what could be cut back. Right now the Republicans even have a rare chance to implement those plans through the legislative process, but they’ve squandered it by turning the government over to inexperienced outsiders who don’t know what they’re doing. I for one think that research on treatments for cancer should continue, and USDA grants for school lunches, and congressionally approved PEPFAR funding that keeps a million people alive, and a bunch of other things.

    If Trump was implementing a plan for short-term pain leading to long-term economic success, the markets would be rising, not falling. But it’s just arbitrary, off-the-cuff tariff of the day nonsense with no coherent plan.

  24. This is what scares me the most: Jonathan and TexasAbuelo have no shared set of facts or rules of evidence that they can use as a basis for discussion. There’s no way for either of them to change the other’s mind. The problem is the epistemic closure of the right-wing information environment, where sources are trusted based on their loyalty to the cause rather than their accuracy. Thus even obviously false statements like “Harris couldn’t get out 3 sentences that made sense” are accepted. (Not that the left wing is immune, or it wouldn’t have taken so long for Democrats to realize that Biden was not capable of a second term.) You can’t run a democracy where a large fraction of the population is disconnected from reality.

    The next four years will be a test. It’s very unlikely Trump can deliver the economic miracle he promised. (I promise to cheer if I’m wrong about this.) It’s much more likely he’ll make things significantly worse. It will be very interesting to see if the right-wing media can successfully make his supporters ignore that fact. It may determine the future of the country.

    I’m not looking to move yet, but my (young adult) kids are looking at the EU. If I lose my job, which is a distinct possibility with everything that’s going on with federal research grants, I’ll look for a new one overseas as well.

  25. TexasAbuelo

    Let me stop laughing long enough to put out a few facts:
    (1) Increased natural gas/oil production under Trump will drive down energy costs and have a positive ripple effect across the economy lowering costs generally – simple energy econ…. All to the good
    (2) Decreasing energy income for Russia will make them increasingly pliable at the bargaining table and less expansionist, particularly if Western Europe has an attack of reality re: cheap energy vs “green” policy
    (3)Trump-imposed sanctions on Iran, enforced as he did before, will decrease war and increase peace in the Middle East. Those who step out of line know there will be hell to pay

    These three facts would not be true had Miss Nincompoop won… not because she had been in charge but because Biden’s behind the curtain handlers would have continued his policies.
    I’d note in passing we’d continue to be inundated by illegals who’d continue to vote in federal elections…. Yes we watched them be registered and vote in Texas!
    I’d note in passing Harris had never received one vote for president prior to the last election,

    I also note thay as border czar she opened the border to record sex trafficking of girls and women — funny things we observe in Texas
    Finally I watched her complete vacuous word-filled meaning-devoid 60 minutes interview where the reporter was obviously bored to tears and annoyed by her meaningless repetition of trite phrases without substance
    So spare me your beautiful blah blah common facts common ground nonsense. Or the sheer stupidity thst somehow some republicans or democrats have a plan for fine tuning the federal bureaucracy or preserving select important programs. That ship done sailed years ago. That’s the 500lb guy protesting he really does know all the principles of good nutrition and weight control… too late pal.
    The folks who foot the bill, who are sick and tired of your nonsense about “we’re working on it” are fed up. The chain saws have shown up at our request, the squatters are all getting the boot, we’re doing a housecleaning, we don’t believe any of your stories and promises and protests that we’ll do better. We elected someone to clean your expensive mess… quit yapping and common grounding—- you have zero credibility

  26. TexasAbuelo: Your argument that increased oil production under Trump will improve things is hard to take seriously when the United States is already the world’s top oil-producing nation.

    Cheap energy did not keep Western Europe safe. Just the opposite, because cheap energy meant depending on Russian gas and oil, giving Russia leverage over European democracies. For Western Europe, renewables (including nuclear) are their path to energy independence and a much stronger position compared to Russia.

    If you want to halt Russian expansionism, Trump is not a good president: So far, he has given Russia everything it could hope for and asked for nothing in return.

    If you want to threaten Iran with sanctions, it takes more than the United States acting alone. The effect of sanctions depend on the number of nations imposing them, and for that, Trump has been very bad. A country without allies cannot impose sanctions on a large country on the other side of the world by itself.

    Voting by illegal immigrants is extremely rare, as reaffirmed by a Republican campaign official last year.

    Please note that insults are not acceptable – not here, not coming from a man who claims to be an honorable priesthood holder – and I’m happy to delete comments that ignore that rule without a second thought.

  27. TexasAbuelo, I appreciate your willingness to make fairly specific predictions. That gives some hope that in four years we can agree about whether they happened or not. If any of them do, I’ll be very happy to have been proven wrong.

    Let’s check in in four years.

  28. As I said, TexasAbuelo, insults are unacceptable. If you’d like to rewrite your last comment without the personal insult directed at Kamala Harris, that’s fine. If you want to debase your priesthood in your own home, that’s on you. I don’t have to let you do it in mine.

  29. Whenever I see a person who very much needs to go touch grass (here’s looking at you, TexasAbuelo) invade an otherwise thoughtful space on the internet, it makes me sad that there are fewer and fewer institutions that provide an opportunity to meaningfully engage in community in uplifting ways. It’s such an important part of grounding people and constantly teaching them how to interact with other people in thoughtful and respectful ways.

    I am no longer an active participant in the church — I haven’t been for years, and I will never be again. Nevertheless, I think churches are a critical part of the infrastructure of society and it makes me sad to see how many people have lost communities of faith and replaced them with some of the saddest possible behaviors – mindlessly scrolling the internet or watching cable news.

    The loss of institutions that ground people in reality and bring them closer to their fellow man is a crisis. We should all be sad about things that exacerbate that.

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