Steadying the Ark

Okay, now I’m thinking of a few posts related to the topic of “faithfully disagreeing” in the church, or those who’ve disagreed with certain policies (the race ban being a salient example) but who saw themselves as wanting to be faithful to and to remain in the church. Such a tendency has been given different names like “faithful dissent,” and probably others, but I’ve been thinking about another metaphor I want to try out: steadying the ark.


The phrase comes from 2 Samuel 6 when God kills Uzzah for “putting forth his hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it; for the oxen shook it.” In our church [FN 1], we’ve turned this story into the importance of following church leaders. Leading the church is the leaders’ job, and to suggest changes or differences, we say, is to “steady the ark,” the same sin that got Uzzah struck dead.

In some upcoming posts, I’m thinking about arguing the opposite position: trying to protect the ark was a good thing, that God striking someone dead for doing such a thing is contrary to how most of us see God, and that I think this story most likely did not actually happen. But my bigger point will be questioning the claim of it ALWAYS being wrong for lay members to provide opinions on changes to church practices and policies.

Years ago, I picked my daughter up from early morning seminary and she reported being appalled at the Uzzah story. “He was trying to do a good and helpful thing and God struck him dead!?” I referred to talking with my daughter about issues with the Old Testament in this blog post.

I see the story as a more archaic view that humans had of God in the past of taboos and a wrathful God, but one I see as rather different than how Jesus portrays God, in my opinion. I talked a while back about historicity and other problems with the Old Testament, so I view  the Uzzah story as a product of the culture, and that’s okay. No, I don’t think that God really smote Uzzah dead for steadying the ark.

Turning the story into a metaphor claiming that making suggestions about church policies is bad really seems like a stretch to me. It doesn’t look to me that the Uzzah story is about that at all. But again, my bigger point is to present the opposite of the claim that making suggestions is bad. I agree with my daughter that Uzzah steadying the ark was a good thing, and the archaic notion of God killing someone for such an act doesn’t fit with our religious sentiments.

In a few upcoming posts, I want to turn the metaphor on its head: like my daughter said, I will be arguing that metaphorically steadying in the ark, or a conscientious layperson piping up to give a helpful nudge here and there, CAN be a good thing.

By this I don’t mean all criticism of the church, and I do think there’s a difference between outspoken critics and what I will propose here as an “ark steadier,” or a faithful member pointing out a problem. I don’t mean to place a moral difference between the two, but a typological one in terms of church commitment and intent. No doubt the line can be blurry so I don’t give any absolute distinctions, but I will point to a few examples of what I see as people playing the devout role as ark steadiers in church history. I do think there have been faithful members who’ve made legitimate suggestions for changes in an attempt to protect the church like Uzzah sought to protect the ark.

FN 1 I’m not sure about other Christian thinkers and traditions’ use of the phrase. When I put the phrase into Google, mostly Mormon references came up, but not only Mormon ones.


Comments

17 responses to “Steadying the Ark”

  1. I like the explanation at Morgan’s link.

    I think any discussion on a low-status church member trying to “steady the ark” will have to address the church members subordinate to (and harmed by) mission president Philander Smartt a few years ago.

    I look forward to the series.

  2. On the one hand, it really is aggravating when you want feedback on something, and no one is willing to say anything directly to you, even when you ask them (and so your spouse has to tell you that Brother so-and-so overheard another person saying they really didn’t like the thing you were trying to get feedback on).

    On the other hand, the kinds of things people complain about can be completely unhinged, people are often highly overconfident about inherently uncertain situations, people read ill intent into far more situations than are actually warranted, and having a check on the impulse to lose one’s mind over something is a good thing. I don’t know about the veracity or intent of the story of Uzzah, but some reluctance to go charging in guns blazing is probably a good thing overall.

  3. Stephen Fleming

    Thanks, Morgan. I don’t recall that one from a while ago. I do agree with the sentiment of the poster of problematic applications of that story.

    ji, I wasn’t aware of that particular story, but have heard rumors of that kind of thing.

    Jonathan, yes, I agree that non-stop knee-jerk criticism isn’t helpful. We should be supportive and generous towards our leaders as they are trying to do their best. But I do think there can be many instances of those “below” being aware that policies need adjusting. I’ll give some thoughts on observations in church history.

  4. Doug Boyack

    Thank you, Steve, for that direction you are hoping to pursue. I’m sure it will be helpful to many.

  5. When you have a culture that says the Q15 are ALL inspired prophets, there is not a lot of lower level leaders willing to say anything contrary to the Q15. I am guessing they are a bunch of “yes men” types who know/told not to touch the Ark. As most here know, the Q15 have had disagreements from the beginning and that continues today. I am pretty sure Nelson told the Q15 to not touch his Ark and he did what he wanted. He was in charge, nobody else needed to advise him. (maybe Wendy)

    I think we would be hard pressed to find many stake presidents willing to tell the brethren something needs to be changed and that they are handling something wrong.

    Plenty of members and x-members willing to “touch the ark” but the Q15 aren’t exactly asking for that help. They are not even asking God IMO….

    Having said all that, maybe the brethren actually do want feedback but they cant find anyone in the ranks to touch the ark?

  6. Shorter version, Uzzah died when the wagon broke and he got tangled in it as he instinctively tried to stop it or hold it back.

    “God must have punished this man! Good why did you allow this to happen?”

  7. Stephen Fleming

    Thanks, Doug!

    REC, yes, obedience to leaders is a very strong norm in the church. I think that does help with group cohesion and commitment among the members which does help to build a strong community. But I think there are some downsides related to feedback.

    Sute, yes that seems likely. We work to make sense of our world and misfortune and likely ascribe too much to God’s judgments. Somethings that get codified in problematic stories that then turn into (in my opinion) some problematic theology.

  8. A couple of other aspects that might be addressed in the series:

    Common Consent. We’re supposed to be a culture of common consent, but sometimes I wonder if we are anymore. Giving truth to D&C 20 and common consent seems to allow all members, including low-status members, to have and express thoughts.

    The Purpose of the Restoration. In D&C 1, the Lord our God explains the reasons why He was putting forth his hand again in these latter days — one of those reasons is explained in verse 20: “…that every man might speak in the name of God the Lord, even the Savior of the world…” Giving truth to D&C 20 and God’s own purposes seems to allow all members, or at least all priesthood holders, including low-status priesthood holders, to have and express thoughts.

  9. It’s been a long time since I heard anyone talk about “not steadying the ark,” maybe because it no longer fits the culture Church leadership is trying to create. For a couple of decades now, there’s been a strong focus on working in councils, and on robust discussion as a way of receiving revelation. Council members are trained to speak up, and explicitly told to speak up on any topic, not just those related to their particular calling. Leaders are trained to listen, with a special emphasis on priesthood leaders listening to women’s voices.

    In my experience that carries over to any member of the unit. Have feedback for your bishop? Make an appointment to meet with him. Have feedback for higher leadership? Okay, you can’t just make an appointment with President Oaks, but I can’t just make an appointment with the top-level leadership of my workplace or my government either. So make an appointment with your stake president. They have plenty of conversations with general leadership, and from the reports I’ve heard those conversations can get very candid indeed, in both directions.

    (One side effect of who typically gets called as a stake president is that most of them are already used to having and using power before they’re ever called. They’re not yes-men in my experience. Yes, they have a lot of respect for the leaders above them. But they’ve been told that candor and robust discussion lead to revelation. They’re also well aware of the limits of their own revelation and have no illusions about the revelation of the people above them.)

    There’s also the Church’s survey research. Definitely respond if you get picked.

    Of course, like any feedback, how feedback to Church leaders is received will depend a lot on how it is delivered. Follow the principle Jesus taught that disagreements are best handled privately. Make sure they know you believe in the Church and its mission, and share their goals (assuming that’s true). Don’t put them on the defensive. And recognize that they may not agree with your suggested course of action, and that doesn’t make them a bad person.

  10. Stephen Fleming

    Good points, ji. I’m currently working on a chapter in my book that talks about what I see as the context for “common consent” in DC 26 and 28. It looks to me like the concept was debated from the beginning. I do think there is a clash between that concept and out notion of prophetic leadership and DC 28 notes that.

    I do love the scripture in DC 1, ji, but the I think those same tensions are there. What happens with people speaking in God’s name have revelations that disagree? It’s a challenge.

    RLD, that’s interesting. I have continued to hear the “don’t steady the ark” phrase. Maybe I’m just particularly sensitive!

    I am aware of promoting more counsels and the church doing more surveys. I did work hard to listen to input as bishop, but I also didn’t get much sense that those above me cared much about what I thought or experienced. I’m guessing my experience of noticing a mixed bag is probably pretty typical.

    The first things I want to focus on for the series is examples from our history. Have there been times when gentle pushback against policies has been a good thing? We tend not to celebrate that much in our official discourse.

  11. Stephen,

    Remember when President Nelson said we need to get our own revelation in a general conference, and the very next conference Elder Renlund tried to talk it back by introducing fears and cautions? Maybe it’s the same here.

    In my comment, I pointed to God’s purpose in D&C 1:20. I want to respect God and his declared purpose. But other good people follow Elder Renlund’s squashing and perhaps unintentionally deny God and impede God’s purpose. Instead, what about honoring and celebrating God’s purpose? God wants every man to speak in his name — how wonderful! how grand! how glorious! I am aware of the risks, but wow, what about the possibilities? Do we let the risks prevail and forfeit the possibilities? [in our current church culture, yes, it seems to me that we absolutely let the risks prevail]

    I acknowledge some legitimacy in Elder Renlund’s position and the squashing reflex — I get it — but does that squashing reflex contribute to the fear in our current church culture, and get in the way of achieving God’s purpose and our possibilities?

    I believe God wants individual Saints to stand on their own feet in purposeful and wiling righteousness as self-determined drivers — I don’t think God wants persons to be afraid and to hide behind the skirts of their “leaders” where only those “leaders” are allowed to think and exercise judgment. I believe that God is okay with Brother Jones making a certain decision while Brother Smith makes a somewhat different decision in what appear to be to be similar situations — I am prepared to sustain both of them in their own stewardships.

    Anyway, I appreciate the opportunity to share these thoughts.

  12. Stephen, I’m surprised and disappointed to hear that you didn’t feel like you were being listened to as a bishop. That must have been really frustrating, especially given the challenges you were facing. It highlights that Church culture varies a lot from place to place, or just from leader to leader. We can do better.

    I look forward to the examples. The ones that come to my mind are pushback against a lack of policy, or just a complete vacuum in a particular area, like Emma Smith and the Word of Wisdom or the founding of the Relief Society. Those we celebrate. While doing nothing really is a policy, pushing back against something explicit is a different matter.

  13. Stephen Fleming

    I agree with all those points, ji, and yes, our leaders do worry about the risks. As I noted in previous posts about spiritual experiences, it has seemed to me like our leaders prescribe approved spiritual experiences. I do think that is a muting policy and not the ideal.

    Here’s a quote from an English visionary, Jane Lead, who died in 1704 who I argue in my book had a big influence on the creation of Mormonism (long story!). This seems along the lines of what your area saying:

    “Therefore while ye in the state of Minority are, and have need to be under Pastors and Teachers, till you are come up to the highest Form, ready prepared and qualified for the great Master Teacher to undertake you, even the holy Spirit, who will perfect whatever was lacking in other Teachings, and through other Mediums, for which direct your Eye, waiting in a peaceable Concord and silent Harmony, in your own Jerusalem within, whereupon written is to be, Holiness to the Lord in every Property.” Revelation of Revelations, v.

    RLD, I want to stress the great love I have for the stake president I served under, but I did feel like I witnessed a general “commanding” attitude not in line with DC 121:41-42 from our leaders generally during my time as bishop. I felt generally ordered around, not persuaded.

    I see the policy on getting rid of the young mens presidency as the ultimate example. We talked about that a bit in the comments on this post. https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2024/03/46668/

    In retrospect, that policy took quite the toll and I think I underestimated just what a devastating experience my time as bishop was for my now ex-wife when I told the story about her crying in the parking lot in that post.We are now divorced, there are a number of reasons, but we had quite a difficult time with the calling and getting rid of the YM leader was a big reason. Quite overwhelming.

    It’s hard for me to see the fact the leaders haven’t changed that policy as evidence of not listening to bishops. I’ve never met a bishopric member who thought that was a good idea.

    That said, I still want to be in the church, I know we don’t get to be in perfect organizations here on earth, I have much love and appreciation for my now ex-wife, and we’re still good friends. But the bishop time was really hard and I came away feeling like the general authorities didn’t have much interest in my thoughts or experience.

  14. Anymore….after decades of attempts of being an “Ark Supportor and/or Steadier”…..I’ve given up and (in my mind and my own actions – at least) I’ve had to separate the Gospel of Jesus Christ from the “Corporate Church”. I love the teachings of Jesus Christ and desire to always expand my innate desires to emulate his life.

    However, I can no longer be supportive of Corporate Church and many of its’ behaviors and actions; some of which are truly distasteful (if not abhorrent) to me.

  15. I don’t know if I made this comment here at T&S or some other blog but about a year ago my ward finally threw in the towel and called a shadow YM president. We tried for several years over two different bishoprics to make having the bishop be the YM president work, but it just didn’t. And we certainly aren’t in the minority, most wards that I’m familiar with have pretty much done the same thing and have removed the bishop from being the YM president in anything but name only.

  16. Stephen Fleming

    LHL, yes it’s a difficult process and I’ll note in my upcoming posts. A certain resignation of limited ability seems to be a requirement for sticking at it.

    KLC, good idea.

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