What Spiritual Experiences Are We Allowed to Have?

“He treated my communication not only lightly, but with great contempt, saying it was all of the devil, that there were no such things as visions or revelations in these days; that all such things had ceased with the apostles, and that there would never be any more of them.” (1:21)

Though our church encourages personal revelation, and I know of DC 28:2, I’ve sometimes felt frustrated over the question I titled this post. A guy in the group I ran, I think said it best. He said something like, “Why do we tell people to pray to get answers, when so often we act as though the right answer is prescribed (what leaders have declared)? If the person has no freedom to get a different answer, then why even bother to go through the prayer process?” (He was only expressing a frustration, not a cynical or bitter rejection of the church).

Leader’s did make a statement on gay marriage that members can differ, but that seemed to create some confusion over what the EXACT policy on differing is, and I think we can agree that “follow the brethren and local leaders” is quite important. And I do think there is also a norm of looking askance at a member saying he or she got a different answer.

I HAVE had what I considered kind and helpful discussions with local church leaders on these issues, and that is appreciated. Of course, we do allow for personal revelation, so we’re different than the Methodist minister talking to Smith after his visions, but I have heard talk from leaders similar to what the guy in the group noted: as though leaders are saying “you are only allowed to receive these handful of prescribed answers. Otherwise your answer isn’t real, is deception, etc.”

And at times like that I do feel some frustration. I mentioned on the last comment of the first post in this series that I’ve come to the point that I don’t give ultimate authority to others to interpret my spiritual experiences. Yes, those experiences can be confusing and I do appreciate insights from others. Yet like I said in that comment, I don’t find it very helpful if the guidance is something like, “I declare your spiritual expertise invalid because it doesn’t fit MY (the advice giver’s) theology.”

I noted in an earlier post that I see such absolute claims of knowledge of God’s thoughts and policies as problematic. In my experience, our human understanding of God and his purposes is less clear than such certain people will state, so if such a person or even leader makes such a declaration to me, then I think of the point I made in my last comment: I’m the one who experienced it. I’m happy for advice, but don’t tell me what I did or did not experience, since I experienced it, not you. Though this process can be confusing, it does remind me of verse 25, especially the end about not wanting to deny what he’d seen/experienced.

So I do find claims that only prescribed experiences and answers are allowed frustrating. Does God really need to follow OUR (humans’) rules if he wants to talk to us?


Comments

2 responses to “What Spiritual Experiences Are We Allowed to Have?”

  1. If we receive revelation that differs from general counsel then the wise thing to do is keep it to ourselves. We should never openly pit our personal revelation against the general revelation that the apostles receive for the church. In most cases personal revelation should remain with the individual who receives it.

  2. Part of the problem is confusion between opinion and revelation, and this by members and leaders at all levels. An apostle, seventy, stake president, or anyone else may offer a thought (or espouse a doctrine) with most sincere intention of being helpful to others, but many (sometimes the speaker included) will attribute the thought to revelation when there really was no revelation at all.

    I wish we could overcome this cultural weakness. I wish we could accept the teachings of church officers as counsel from fellow sojourners who are trying to be helpful, without automatically describing those teachings as revelation. Part of the problem with this weakness among us is a tendency to then use that teaching as a rhetorical club with which to rhetorically smite the head of our neighbors.

    If a priesthood leader ever does get revelation, he cannot impose his new learning on others — he can only share it through persuasion, patience, long suffering, brotherly kindness, and so forth. I wish for a church culture where thoughts are shared more with these principles in mind.

    Last thought: remember when President Nelson said that every member needs to get his or her own revelation? Well, as I recall, in the very next conference Elder Renlund undid that, by strictly limiting a member’s privilege of receiving revelation. I am content to say that both men shared their own thoughts with sincere desire to be helpful, but I also noted how Elser Renlund sort of countermanded what President Nelson taught — but of course, others will say Elder Renlund merely refined what President Nelson taught, and both talks were revelatory direct from the courts of heaven.

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