How Do We Teach/Talk about Polygamy?

So I found Brittany Romanello’s presentation to Dialogue on their series on DC 132 (15:30) interesting in the context of lots of internet talk about polygamy in anticipation for a discussion of DC 132 coming up tomorrow. Romanello talked about getting lessons on polygamy and said that in wards she’s been in as a teenager, the adult female teachers were so uncomfortable that they would bring in men to teach it: bishopric members or husbands. Romanello said the men would teach while the women sat silent which suggests a lot of things, she notes.

I’ve never been in that specific situation, but listening to that story reminded me of a time teaching youth Sunday school very many years ago (2001 I think). I was getting my master’s in history in central California and beginning to learn more about the academic study of Mormonism and the controversies that came with it. I was working on early Mormonism in the Philadelphia area, but was also beginning to try to figure out how to tackle the hard stuff.

I wasn’t terribly troubled by polygamy (sorry for my male cluelessness!) but ran smack dab into a wall as I was called to teach this youth class of 14-year olds.

I think the topic that year was the DC, but as you know polygamy wasn’t central to the curriculum. It came up because I’d had a youth Sunday school teacher who would begin his lessons by opening up for any questions we had, and when I did the same thing, the girls brought up polygamy: “I heard Jospeh Smith had a bunch of wives,” “what’s going to happen in the afterlife?” Standard stuff.

I knew a little about it and tried to draw on what I’d heard to that point. “Polygamy is really confusing as a historical topic” as my BYU prof had used for an explanation. But the questions went on and on, week after week. I drew on what I’d heard my seminary teacher say (yes, I know that was a bad idea, sorry!) “Elder McConkie said that there will be polygamy in heaven because women are more righteous than men.” Yes, I know this idea was ripped apart for decades on the Bloggernacle, but this was before the Bloggernacle! I was doing my best!

It kept coming up. I remember one girl raising her hand weeks later and saying, “Yep, I’m bringing polygamy up again!” At this point, I was waiving the white flag and had wanted to try a way to have them ask someone else. I finally said, “I don’t know. Ask your parents!”

That wasn’t the end of it. A few weeks later the girl said, “I asked my parents and they had completely different answers!”

I can’t remember if it was that week or a later one, but eventually I was totally defeated. I had NO answers and the class found that completely unsatisfactory. In a moment of feeling like I truly knew nothing, I think I said in something of a cowed mumble, “We just don’t know.” One of the less feisty girls even said at that point, “Because women are more righteous than men.” Oops, shouldn’t have said that! Sorry!

I said, “That was one theory. We don’t know.” I think they did eventually stop grilling me because I literally had nothing to say.

Anyway, what have been your experiences of learning/talking about polygamy in church settings? I’d ask if there’s a “right” way to do it, but I’m guessing such opinions on that topic will vary as much as opinions over polygamy.

I did do a lot of study and prayer on the topic after that year and shared thoughts at the Juvenile Instructor, which connected to my dissertation. I came to many similar ideas as Romanello who I linked to above.

https://juvenileinstructor.org/thoughts-on-polyandry/

https://juvenileinstructor.org/when-did-you-first-hear-about-joseph-smiths-polygamy-and-other-difficult-issues/

https://juvenileinstructor.org/talking-about-joseph-smith-polygamy-with-your-kids-one-dads-experience/

https://juvenileinstructor.org/two-quibbles-with-the-churchs-essay-on-joseph-smiths-polygamy-the-date-when-it-was-revealed-and-eternity-only-marriages/

https://juvenileinstructor.org/teaching-polygamy-at-byu/

https://juvenileinstructor.org/my-father-had-but-one-ewe-lamb-joseph-smith-and-helen-heber-and-vilate-kimball/

https://juvenileinstructor.org/plato-gender-and-eternal-marriage/


Comments

3 responses to “How Do We Teach/Talk about Polygamy?”

  1. Your response to the “I heard Joseph Smith had a bunch of wives” question was better than the one I heard in my seminary class, from a professional seminary teacher, about five years before your Sunday School class experience. My seminary teacher responded with “there’s a lot of anti-Mormon stuff out there and you have to be careful about what you read.” That was his entire answer, leading a bunch of LDS kids to come away with the impression that Joseph Smith didn’t practice polygamy, and claims that he did were anti-Mormon. No wonder so many people my age still won’t accept the fact that he was a polygamist.

  2. I just want to say you were clearly a superior teacher! I love that you didn’t pretend to know and did not shut down questions. I have rarely teens or adults comfortable enough in a church setting to repeatedly ask questions about things that trouble them. In my experience everyone either knows or quickly learns to avoid certain topics.

  3. Stephen Fleming

    Thanks, Tim. Yes a tricky topic that’s long been avoided. I brought up the issue of disclosure on this topic on the post third from the top that I listed and it generated some pretty intense discussion.

    Thanks, E. I never planned on any formal discussion of the topic for the class since that wasn’t one of the lessons, but when the kids brought it up (now I’m remembering some boys would too, but the girls were the most persistent) I wanted to try to make the point of never engaging in “God said so! Don’t question the prophets or me!” I wanted to make reasonable explanations but soon found that the answers I had fell apart when pressed. So I had to think about that some more.

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