Selling Temples

It’s no secret that some are worried that the Church is overbuilding temples. While most make some sense in terms of the Church’s goal of having a temple close and accessible to members, anecdotes abound about temples being put very proximate to other temples that are already suffering from low attendance, and in the worst case scenario the question may naturally arise about what to do with temples who through the vagaries of long-term geodemographic fate end up hardly used at all and sitting virtually empty month-by-month with perhaps a caretaker senior couple. 

If the worst case hypothetical comes to pass–and again I’m not saying that it will, just that it’s a possibility–the question naturally arises as to what we are comfortable doing with the unused temples. 

In a sense we’ve gone through this before with having to leave the pre-Utah temples, but that was a different context in which the decision was made for us. Brigham Young wouldn’t have been able to just assign a guardian or two to Nauoo to keep it up for the next hundred years before it was usable again. Much more difficult is the question about what to do when we have all legal rights to the temple, it’s just simply unused and has no realistic prospects of being used in the future. 

This is a hard thing for some of us to conceptualize since my childhood assumption of an upward growth trajectory forever is meeting the reality of secularization, smaller families, and diminishing proselytizing returns in the developed, and sometimes developing, world. So the day may come when “wait until the Church is big enough to service the temple” is not practical.  

Even if we continue to tread water demographically population flows within an area might lead to the same situation as if there was a population collapse. If there’s a Chernobyl 2.0 and 3-Mile Island Temple becomes a no-go Zone only frequented by urban explorers, or if rural areas become hollowed out as a declining population moves more to the city like what is happening currently in Japan, the result will be the same–temples sitting empty and unused for the foreseeable future.   

So what would we do with them? I don’t have a strong opinion about any of this, I just want to think “out loud” through the implications and possibilities. 

We do sell meetinghouses occasionally for similar reasons (the meetinghouse my mother was baptized in is now a Baptist church), but temples have a more capital-S sacredness to them, so I suspect we would be more hesitant to, say, sell it and let people repurpose it into a daycare or private school like the grand mainstream Protestant churches out here on the East Coast. 

No, I assume we’d demolish it first. Of course, since decommissioning temples is a new thing for us we don’t have a lot of precedent to rely on, but we might be able to crib some insights into how other faiths have handled similar situations. For example, some faiths have land-use restrictions on their properties that they sale (even if their ability to be legally enforced past the first sale of the property is arguable).

Would we be particular about who we are selling the plot to and what it would be used for? In the Catholic Church there’s a whole aspect of canon law that deals with who you can sell old church buildings (which serve both their “temple” and “meetinghouse” functions) to since, on some level presumably they believe that the consecration to some extent remains, so it would be problematic from a Catholic perspective if it was used as, say, a strip club, abortion clinic, or Masonic temple. 

So that’s one approach, but I don’t know that we’d care as much. I get the sense that in the Latter-day Saint context once something is de-consecrated, as it were, it doesn’t have the same sense of residual sacrality. 

That brings up another compare/contrast point. We have sacralization/consecration ceremonies, but unlike some faiths we don’t have de-sacralization ceremonies. People aren’t excommunicated by the laying on of hands. I’ve heard different takes on whether it’s appropriate to use garments as rags once the symbols are cut out/burned. When temples are remodeled as far as I know it is considered “profane” (in the technical sense of the term simply meaning everyday and not set apart) once the construction crew gets to work (I’ve always thought it would be weird and uncomfortable to be the first renovation guy that takes down a temple wall with a sledgehammer). 

So again, I don’t have a strong opinion on how we should handle this if it comes to pass, but just some possible implications and issues we would have to address policy and theology-wise if this is something we’re faced with as people increasingly disappear from the landscape. 


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10 responses to “Selling Temples”

  1. John Mansfield

    There are three temples that were demolished last year, and a fourth will be soon. In each case the purpose is to replace an existing temple with a new temple. According to the (non-Church) Church of Jesus Christ Temples website, for the Kona Hawaii temple, “only a handful of structural posts and trusses [were to] remain before the work of rebuilding commences.” The Stockholm temple is being replaced by a building almost twice as large. The Provo temple was also completely demolished before erection of the Provo Rock Canyon temple began. The Anchorage temple was dedicated in 1999, then expanded and rededicated five years later. Now the stake center next door has been demolished, and a bigger temple is being built where the stake center was. When the new temple is ready for dedication, the old temple will be demolished and a new meetinghouse will go up. (This one reminds me of the several old high schools I have seen replaced by a new building constructed atop the athletic fields, then demolished to make way for new fields.) I suggest looking at the photos of demolition at the Church of Jesus Christ Temples website.

    This recent history suggests to me that the dreams of temple apocalypse are premature, but there is something appealing to me in those dreams to find a half dozen senior couples keeping vigil in a seldom visited shrine, ready for the those who will come. Probably not today, maybe not this week, but eventually an individual or small party will open the door, walk in with a recommend to enter, and find the temple ready for them. A bit like those currently staffing isolated church historical sites, a bit like a remote monastery.

  2. Stephen Fleming

    Thanks for posting this, Stephen. My sense is that long before any temples are sold or demolished (and not rebuilt) increased underutilization will be painful to go through. No doubt GAs and local leaders with turn up the demands for attendance and volunteer work, which will likely lead to some grumbling if members feel we have more temples than we need.

    Temples cutting down their days of operation will likely feel sad. A lonely seldom-used temple in a remote place like John describes could feel quaint, but such a structure in a well-populated area may look like a symbol of decline or poor planning.

  3. This had me thinking about the LA temple. Demographics and new temples elsewhere have made it less used, much like DC. At the same time DC is iconic and LA might be reaching that status. Both campuses would likely do better with a smaller temple on the side. I like the idea of in the future an option that at least some Temple buildings still existing but being decommissioned and perhaps used for the community or Church for another purpose.

  4. Stephen Fleming

    Interesting, RL. I know some people voiced that changing the Provo Tabernacle into a temple felt like a loss of the community role the Provo Tabernacle played. It would be interesting if the DC and LA temples could reverse that and act for those communities like the Provo Tabernacle did for Provo.

    But I’m guessing the church probably won’t do that.

  5. Vic Rattlehead

    On the subject there being too many temples to patrons, it is to my understanding, and I am not sure where I heard this, the it is a goal of president Nelson to have a temple within at least 200 miles of every member, so it would seem by that logic that it would be worth it at least to him to build a temple even if it only served so little as one family.

  6. Our temple is open two days a week, and it’s fantastic – it’s only a 2.5 hour drive for us, instead of 4 hours to the next nearest temple. I don’t know what the minimum number of operating hours and members served are, but it seems like they could be fairly low and still workable.

    That being said, how about letting at least one temple turn into a ruin? Because castle ruins off in the middle of a forest are cool and all, but church ruins are next level. We should have one of those.

    Ruined LDS temple in the middle of a teutonic forest in winter in the style of Caspar David Friedrich.jpg

  7. Stephen C

    “a half dozen senior couples keeping vigil in a seldom visited shrine, ready for the those who will come. Probably not today, maybe not this week, but eventually an individual or small party will open the door, walk in with a recommend to enter, and find the temple ready for them. A bit like those currently staffing isolated church historical sites, a bit like a remote monastery.”

    That’s beautiful, thank you John Mansfield.

  8. For reference please review the Medford Oregon Temple operating schedule.

  9. For those who are wondering, the Medford Oregon temple runs a total of 18 endowment sessions per week, with a capacity of 36 per session. So that’s 648 per week, max. In a brief survey, the lowest I could find was the Casper Wyoming temple which is open 4 days a week with 8 total sessions of 33 seats, for 264 total seats each week.

    I lived in the Detroit temple district years ago, which currently runs 14 sessions of 40 seats per week and serves 10 stakes and one district. The Grand Rapids temple should be complete in 2027, which I expect will take 4 of the stakes and one district from Detroit and at most 1 stake from Indianapolis (but probably not). Which is to say that those 10+1 stakes/district will now have 2 temples. Total attendance will probably increase as some members save considerable driving time, but the demand on the Detroit temple can only decrease.

    All this is to say that current church leadership is clearly willing to operate temples today see fewer than 200 endowment patrons per week. Who knows what the threshold is before a temple would be closed. The US still has 50 announced temples that have not yet come online.

  10. Just like everything else in life – you take something that might be quite unique, special and singular; and you replicate it again, and again and again (and then make it available on every corner) and that “specialness” diminishes pretty rapidly. Even “Christmas every day” would become incredibly boring and seless after just a short time.

    And, of course, this article (nor most of the comments) barely touch upon how truly distasteful the exorbitant spending on these “Disneyland Castles” has become…..Really quite a turnoff; around every corner.

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