Promotion to High Priest by Age

Note: I tried to delay this post because of the Charlie Kirk shooting, but it’s somehow not shifting it for mobile devices and I don’t know how to fix that, so I’m leaving it up. On the shooting, I really don’t have anything to say that isn’t already being said all over the Internet. 

As I’ve noted before, I try to keep the “I think this is what the Church should do” genre of post to a minimum, because I think the gospel is so much grander than this or that policy from North Temple Street, that song gets overplayed on the Latter-day Saint thought space radio, and because most suggestions are boringly predictable derivations of the same “the Church should be more like Mainline Protestants” theme. 

However, one policy change I’ve always thought was warranted is to routinize the promotion from elder to high priest at a certain age. Unlike every other standard priesthood office (“standard” in this case being an office that the average priesthood holder is likely to hold in their life), the elder-to-high priest transition is not pegged to an age. 

I understand that we need hierarchies for the church to run, but this strikes me as being an unnecessary one. Back when they would meet separately, you’d often have a conspicuously older person meeting with the younger elders while his older, wiser, more experienced counterparts were elsewhere.  Of course, this matters less now that high priests and elders meet together, so it’s not nearly as clear now as it was before who is a high priest and who is an elder (I actually wonder if some of the motivation for the Church to collapse the meetings was to flatten the kind of spiritual hierarchy that separate high priests group meetings might engender). 

But even a long-time, long-serving Church elder can simply “fall through the cracks” in a sense. The bishop has a lot on his plate, I presume he doesn’t have a lot of time to check up on the priesthood ordinations of the older men in his ward and think about forwarding them for high priest ordination. And in a church where position is often conflated with one’s standing before God, the simple act of letting an otherwise worthy elder stay an elder often implies something weightier when it’s really just because the bishop has a lot on his plate. 

Also, I’m going to be blunt here, I don’t have a huge amount of confidence that after a certain threshold (long time service in the church, temple recommend worthy, doing their callings, etc.), local, human Church leaders have the ability to accurately rank order the relative spirituality of each older member on some kind of a fine-grained level. Again, I realize that they have to make those kinds of calls when it comes to callings to leadership positions, but we see enough about how the sausage gets made to preclude holding to a framework that assumes that kind of high precision. The glass we see through is darker than that, and people aren’t served by pretending that it isn’t.  

I’m not saying that ordination to the high priesthood should be a routinized step right after elder like elder is after priest. I like the idea of having an office set apart for the older, grizzled and/or experienced priesthood holders, so it could be anchored to some age/experience level. For example, all elders older than the age of 50 with, say, 10 or more years in the Church unless they are called to a leadership calling before then. I don’t have a strong opinion about the particulars, but this seems like an easy fix with little downside to avoid spiritually otherizing loyal, older elders. 


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6 responses to “Promotion to High Priest by Age”

  1. Nice thought. But some Stake Presidents I have talked to have taken the elimination of the high priests group as the end of the old practice of ordaining older men high priests. I know several older Elders who have had to sit on the sidelines and not participate when their own sons and sons-in-law are ordained and set apart to leadership positions. One son refused a leadership position in a singles’ ward because his father would be “othered” and he could not stand the thought of that. The father appealed to his own Stake President for ordination (he was 60 years old, had served a full-time mission and was a life-long loyal member of the church) and he was rebuffed.

  2. I don’t know. It feels like the current policy, where all MP holders belong to the elders quorum, actually deemphasizes the importance of hierarchy callings like bishop and such.

    I was ordained a high priest many years ago. It felt like it was mostly “we don’t have enough high priests to have a group meeting, and you’re kind of old, so…” (I was still in my 40’s! Technically it was “we need an assistant HP group leader,” but still.) I don’t think my ordination as a high priest made any difference in my access to spiritual blessings.

    I suspect that the Stake Presidents who “have taken the elimination of the high priests group as the end of the old practice of ordaining older men high priests” have understood correctly.

  3. Perhaps if Curtis is correct a new policy should be implemented to ensure fairness. All new high priests are to ordained by members of the Stake Presidency and current Bishoprics. Other high priests should not be invited to participate, even the fathers, relatives and friends of of those being ordained/set apart.

  4. Expanding on this a bit, when I was set apart in an EQP in a YSA ward, the bishop, without my knowledge, invited my parents, who lived in a different stake, to the event. My father, a HP, assumed that he would participate in the setting apart. The bishop hemmed and hawed for several minutes once he learned that my father did not have a current temple recommend. It was as awkward as possible. He was finally allowed to participate. Not commenting on the appropriateness of what happened, but it was the background when I was administratively ordained a HP (too many elders, too few HPs). For this event no one notified my father, and I did not tell him, because I was unwilling to have the previous scenario repeated.

    I like the new policy that only ordains when a calling requires it. I don’t care one way or the other if who performs the ordination is selected by the person being ordained. I’m sure some families care about that, but I suspect that in most cases outside the Mormon corridor, there’s not a conveniently close relative who could step in. I don’t like the unacknowledged policy that a current temple recommend is the gatekeeping step for any calling at the ward level. Or perhaps that is just in my area.

  5. Last Lemming

    As I understand it, the stake high priests quorum at any given time consists of the stake presidency, the high council, the patriarch, and the collective bishoprics (excluding clerks). I suppose that area and general authorities living within the stake would also qualify. The rest of us who have been ordained high priests are nevertheless considered members of the elders quorum. Anon’s suggestion would allow only members of the HP quorum to participate in new ordinations. That makes a lot of sense to me. I am an ordained seventy, but the thought of my being allowed to participate in the ordination of a new area authority to the office of seventy is absurd.

    There was always a competition for talent between the EQ and HP group. When I was EQ president, I stated my position to the bishop that nobody should be ordained a HP solely by virtue of age. (I literally had 90 inactive elders and prospective elders on my rolls. I could not afford to give up any active ones.) I largely stuck by that position as HP group leader, but did not hesitate to ask for elders to fill leadership positions in the group. (I had little choice. The other HPs all had callings that made them unpoachable.) The one exception was for an older guy (around 70) who met with the EQ. It turned out he had no interest in even meeting with us, much less being ordained.

  6. To start at the very title of this post, “promotion” from Elder to High Priest simply admits and perpetuates a lack of understanding of the purpose of the Priesthood as well as the offices of Elder and High Priest. It supports a stratification of church members, a checklist schedule of righteousness, an emphasis of standing and hierarchy in our wards and a focus on the person, not the priesthood.

    The purpose of the priesthood is not to make men and boys feel good about themselves. And if the way we organize the priesthood is making people feel bad about themselves, the solution is not to give people a “promotion” to higher status.

    If any change should be made, it would be the complete untethering of all priesthood offices to age. A birthday does not make any person worthy of a priesthood office. I don’t see how a church this confused about the function and purpose of the priesthood can have any hope to access any divine power from said priesthood.

    And finally, if being a 55 year old Elder is “spiritually otherizing” to a man, then how should every woman in the church view this conversation?

    (Yes, my tone is very stern here, but it’s been that kind of day for me and I simply haven’t the time to try to soften this as I probably should.)

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