{"id":540,"date":"2004-03-17T13:24:13","date_gmt":"2004-03-17T17:24:13","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=540"},"modified":"2009-01-16T17:32:45","modified_gmt":"2009-01-16T21:32:45","slug":"around-the-blogs-karen-hall-discusses-gender-discrimination","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2004\/03\/around-the-blogs-karen-hall-discusses-gender-discrimination\/","title":{"rendered":"Around the blogs:  Karen Hall discusses gender discrimination"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>In a very interesting post up at By Common Consent, Karen Hall <a href=\"http:\/\/rameumptom.blogspot.com\/2004_03_01_rameumptom_archive.html#107946758838667481\">takes on the issue of gender discrimination in the church<\/a>.  She writes:<\/p>\n<p><i>My concern is the insinuation that women are powerless to affect change in the church. I simply don&#8217;t think that is true, and that we have every obligation to use our time, talents, and means to improve and build the church. Think these situations are isolated? How much attention is payed to the scouts vs. the young women in your ward? Think about the jokes about the frivolousness of Relief Society. I think the relevant question is how do we respond to the numerous cuts, insinuations, and &#8220;bone-headed&#8221; remarks that we are sooner or later exposed to. <\/p>\n<p>I think we have four options. 1) Over time we start to believe the message that women&#8217;s experiences in the church are less valuable than men&#8217;s. (Sadly, a common reaction.) 2) We &#8220;turn the other cheek&#8221; recognizing the ridiculousness of the situation, but not reacting. (My usual M.O.&#8211;often accompanied by a dramatic eye roll&#8230;) 3) We confront the speaker and point out the problem. (Maybe the most healthy response, but come one&#8230;.I think our strongest cultural trait is being passive aggressive, so how often does this happen?) or 4) We attribute the motives of the individual actor to the church as a whole and slowly become embittered. (Leading, eventually, to some level of apostasy.)<\/i><\/p>\n<p>As Glenn Reynolds would say, go read the whole thing!<\/p>\n<p>UPDATE:  I should have mentioned this as well when I posted:  Karen&#8217;s post has attracted commentary elsewhere in the Mormon blogosphere, from <a href=\"http:\/\/kmsiever.blogspot.com\/2004_03_01_kmsiever_archive.html#107953953087813276\">Kim Siever <\/a>and from <a href=\"http:\/\/mormoninquiry.typepad.com\/mormon_inquiry\/2004\/03\/whats_a_woman_t.html\">Dave<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In a very interesting post up at By Common Consent, Karen Hall takes on the issue of gender discrimination in the church. She writes: My concern is the insinuation that women are powerless to affect change in the church. I simply don&#8217;t think that is true, and that we have every obligation to use our time, talents, and means to improve and build the church. Think these situations are isolated? How much attention is payed to the scouts vs. the young women in your ward? Think about the jokes about the frivolousness of Relief Society. I think the relevant question is how do we respond to the numerous cuts, insinuations, and &#8220;bone-headed&#8221; remarks that we are sooner or later exposed to. I think we have four options. 1) Over time we start to believe the message that women&#8217;s experiences in the church are less valuable than men&#8217;s. (Sadly, a common reaction.) 2) We &#8220;turn the other cheek&#8221; recognizing the ridiculousness of the situation, but not reacting. (My usual M.O.&#8211;often accompanied by a dramatic eye roll&#8230;) 3) We confront the speaker and point out the problem. (Maybe the most healthy response, but come one&#8230;.I think our strongest cultural trait is being [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[56],"tags":[4],"class_list":["post-540","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-bloggernacle","tag-around-the-blogs"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/540","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=540"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/540\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":5775,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/540\/revisions\/5775"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=540"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=540"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=540"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}