{"id":53549,"date":"2026-05-11T14:00:01","date_gmt":"2026-05-11T20:00:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/?p=53549"},"modified":"2026-05-10T13:34:50","modified_gmt":"2026-05-10T19:34:50","slug":"salsa-edition-how-did-you-participate-in-church-or-what-did-church-lead-you-to-think-about-yesterday-5-10","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2026\/05\/salsa-edition-how-did-you-participate-in-church-or-what-did-church-lead-you-to-think-about-yesterday-5-10\/","title":{"rendered":"Salsa Edition: How Did You Participate in Church (Or What Did Church Lead You to Think About) Yesterday, 5\/10?"},"content":{"rendered":"

Saturday night I attended a joint performance of the New York Philharmonic along with the Spanish Harlem Orchestra. If you don\u2019t know, the Spanish Harlem Orchestra plays Latin music, mostly salsa. As a result, the concert was not classical music. The concert was all salsa, played to a sold-out 3,500 seat 1920s era movie palace. And the height of the concert was a special appearance by the salsa master Rub\u00e9n Blades.<\/p>\n

The performance made me realize how much concerts like this have changed over the years. When I was growing up in the 1960s, no self-respecting orchestra would have played any kind of popular music, let alone something as foreign as salsa. That music was seen as beneath a classical orchestra (and that may still be true in some quarters, for all I know). As I grew up pops concerts became more popular, influenced by the famous Boston Pops concerts. But even those concerts weren\u2019t quite popular music \u2014 but rather popular pieces arranged for a classical orchestra. While they were a step towards popular tastes, the music didn\u2019t come across the same as the original popular music \u2014 something was missing.<\/p>\n

So what does this all have to do with participating in Church? Anytime we attend or participate in a \u00a0gathering, we go with certain assumptions about what will happen. We assume that the program will follow a certain style and be expressed in a particular way. We conform to the culture. What made the concert on Saturday so different was that the New York Philharmonic conformed to the salsa culture. They approached the event with humility, allowing the Spanish Harlem Orchestra to set the cultural tone. Instead of assuming that classical music was Betty nature better, they treated salsa music with respect.<\/p>\n

We should be doing this in church!!<\/p>\n

And it starts on an individual level. If we assume that there is value in the way the meeting is presented to us (who, I assume, don\u2019t have the ability to control what happens in the meeting), if we approach meetings with humility, we will learn something, and we will be inspired and uplifted by how we interpret, how we thought about and how we received what happened in Church.<\/p>\n

So, what are you thinking in reaction to what happens in Church?<\/p>\n

In these posts I am trying to suggest that each of us can have better experiences at Church if we take responsibility for our experiences, and if we are open to learning from what happens by pondering it \u2014 by thinking about it in many different ways. We can choose to learn and benefit from what happens regardless of whether it fits our perception of what is \u201cgood.\u201d Thinking about our reactions and what we understand allows for revelation and for better understanding.<\/p>\n

In this vein, I like the statement that President Hugh B. Brown made in a 1969 BYU devotional, President Hugh B. Brown declared that the Church is \u201cnot so much concerned with whether your thoughts are orthodox or heterodox as we are that you shall have thoughts.\u201d We should be carefully considering what we hear at Church, regardless of whether what we heard is right or wrong, orthodox or heterodox.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

A lot of our thought depends on how we look at it. It is not different from what many artists figure out\u2014they understand that how you see the \u00a0world before you is more important than what you see. You might call it \u2018active listening\u2019 or shifting perspective. It just means that you see differently. And seeing differently reveals a different world.<\/p>\n

In my case, I tend to focus narrowly, thinking about groups of words or sentences, sometimes taking them out of context and thinking about what they say, even if the speaker didn\u2019t intend what I heard. It\u2019s not at all like what we\u2019re taught in school, where the focus is on understanding accurately and completely what the speaker or text says. Its about pulling out useful or inspiring thoughts in spite of what was said.<\/p>\n

So, if you aren\u2019t thinking this way, maybe try it next Sunday, or the next time you are in a class or meeting. If you have already thoughts inspired by what happened at church, what are they? How did you react to what happened in Church yesterday? What did you notice? Did you end up thinking differently? Do you think your reactions were what they should be? Were they looking for what God had to tell you? Did your reactions make things better?<\/p>\n

This is the latest invitation for reactions to local meetings, continuing a series of weekly posts that started with my post<\/a> on September 25th about how we receive what happens in Church meetings\u2014sermons, lessons and anything else\u2014and enter a conversation with them, magnifying what was said or adding what we think. In these posts I\u2019m asking us all to think about how we listen and receive what happens at Church. If we only listen for mistakes, or things that bother us, what does that say about us? Is it most important to criticize others? Or to try to change ourselves?<\/p>\n

The point here is that no matter how poorly prepared the speaker or teacher is, or no matter how what happens triggers us, or is objectively or doctrinally wrong, we can still find elements in what is said and what happens that inspires and edifies us. Even if church meetings aren\u2019t conducted in a way that reaches us, we can take responsibility and find a way to feel the spirit.<\/p>\n

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So please, write down reactions and thoughts to what happened in Church. You might keep your own \u2018spiritual journal\u2019, or, if you like, you can post your reactions below. I\u2019m adding my own reactions and thoughts as a comment to this post \u2014 instead of as a part of this post, because my reactions aren\u2019t any better than anyone else\u2019s.<\/p>\n

Let me emphasize that this is NOT a place to criticize what is wrong with church or your fellow congregants. The point is to post what you learned because of what happened at Church or how that led you to think. It\u2019s about the good things we can get out of Church, not the negative things that disturbed or upset us. It doesn\u2019t have to be orthodox, traditional or even on topic.<\/p>\n

If you like, make your response in the format, \u201cThey said or did this, and I said or thought that.\u201d Even the things you dislike the most can be turned into lessons for what the gospel teaches we should do.<\/p>\n

My hope is that these reactions serve as an example of a better way to treat what happens at Church instead of the perennial complaints about speaker or teacher preparation or ability, or complaints that the Church should do things differently.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Saturday night I attended a joint performance of the New York Philharmonic along with the Spanish Harlem Orchestra. If you don\u2019t know, the Spanish Harlem Orchestra plays Latin music, mostly salsa. As a result, the concert was not classical music. The concert was all salsa, played to a sold-out 3,500 seat 1920s era movie palace. And the height of the concert was a special appearance by the salsa master Rub\u00e9n Blades. The performance made me realize how much concerts like this have changed over the years. When I was growing up in the 1960s, no self-respecting orchestra would have played any kind of popular music, let alone something as foreign as salsa. That music was seen as beneath a classical orchestra (and that may still be true in some quarters, for all I know). As I grew up pops concerts became more popular, influenced by the famous Boston Pops concerts. But even those concerts weren\u2019t quite popular music \u2014 but rather popular pieces arranged for a classical orchestra. While they were a step towards popular tastes, the music didn\u2019t come across the same as the original popular music \u2014 something was missing. So what does this all have to do […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":111,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[53],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-53549","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-latter-day-saint-thought"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/53549","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/111"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=53549"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/53549\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":53552,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/53549\/revisions\/53552"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=53549"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=53549"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=53549"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}