{"id":52751,"date":"2026-02-17T03:00:41","date_gmt":"2026-02-17T10:00:41","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/?p=52751"},"modified":"2026-02-17T08:04:18","modified_gmt":"2026-02-17T15:04:18","slug":"outer-darkness-voids-dark-nebulas-and-the-end-of-the-universe","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2026\/02\/outer-darkness-voids-dark-nebulas-and-the-end-of-the-universe\/","title":{"rendered":"Outer Darkness, Voids, Dark Nebulas, and the End of the Universe"},"content":{"rendered":"
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“Dark nebula” Barnard 68, where dust particles completely obscure all visible light.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n

Our religion is fairly unique in that we (arguably) believe in a somewhat concrete, physical location for God\u2019s abode. By the same token, I\u2019ve kind of wondered whether the same can be said of, say, Outer Darkness (does one capitalize “outer darkness”? It seems a little inapt). <\/span><\/p>\n

Our religion is also fairly unique in that hell is not described in terms of glowing hot coals or creative, clangy instruments of torture, but just\u2026.nothing. Total darkness. (There is one Biblical allusion to this that I\u2019m aware of is in Jude that may have influenced the D&C imagery: \u201cwandering stars, for whom blackest darkness has been reserved forever.”)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

Religious skeptics point out that paradise typically has the characteristics that somebody in that society would see as ideal (e.g. for Arabs it\u2019s watery fountains, for European peasants it\u2019s <\/span>Cockaigne<\/span><\/a> where animals spread their own fertilizer directly in fields and cheese flies into your mouth), in that sense \u201cseas of fire and glass\u201d seems more grand, cosmological, and less culturally contingent (although we do have some of the streets paved with gold imagery as well). In much the same way \u201couter darkness\u201d seems less culturally contrived and more cosmological than tortures that sound like they were thought up around a campfire.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

I like the idea of hell as a simple antonym to heaven. If God is light and society and vivacity, hell is darkness and loneliness. It reminds me of a Truman Madsen quote I remember (but can\u2019t find) where he talks about having a nightmare as a child of literally nothing, as if the empty darkness is the most terrifying prospect for human beings.<\/span><\/p>\n

So I\u2019ve wondered, in a pure speculative sense and not admitting to any insight into the reality of Outer Darkness, if there\u2019s anywhere in the universe with the kind of cave darkness where you can’t see your hand in front of your face, but on for light years and light years “as far as the eye can see.” Something where the dimmest light from the stars doesn\u2019t penetrate. If the sun is our symbol of celestial glory this would be a symbol of Outer Darkness.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

It\u2019s called <\/span>the the Bo\u00f6tes Void (or \u201cthe Great Void<\/span><\/a>), and if you were on a rogue planet in the middle of it with no star, the entire sky would be the blackest black, with no stars in sight. Near nothingness in absolute darkness going on for distances we cannot begin to grasp. On such a planet we would need 1960s level telescope to be able to detect the galaxies and the stars outside the void.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

I\u2019m not necessarily saying that Outer Darkness is in the Great Void, (or that Kolob is Sagitarrius A*, although <\/span>earlier I indulged<\/span><\/a> in some fun and harmless speculation about us being inside a black hole), but rather just making an interesting observation. God uses the brightness of the sun as an analogy for the highest kingdom, presumably so that we can viscerally get some taste of it in our limited mortal way. So what would the analogy would be for its opposite? With modern scientific technology we have indeed discovered places where \u201cwandering stars [or rogue planets], for whom blackest darkness has been reserved.” Sun and stars give light and life to the universe (D&C 88: “<\/span>Which light proceedeth forth from the presence of God to fill the immensity of space. The light which is in all things, which giveth life to all things”), but we have found places where light does not penetrate (at least enough for our eyes to detect it).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

And if I was a non-believer one of the most depressing thoughts would be that, given our best cosmological guess, eventually the universe will all be one big void of Outer Darkness. The stars and galaxies will move farther and farther away, dimming the horizon until it’s like CS Lewis’ Hell of eternal twilight in the Great Divorce until the final blackout, and then nothing…forever. A<\/span>ll the love, struggles, excitement, passions, beauty, grandeur, light, and life of the previous worlds will be reduced to floating masses of dark, inert, burnt out cinders “for whom blackest darkness has been reserved” forever.<\/span><\/p>\n

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P.S.<\/p>\n

I wrote a similar piece<\/a> on the end of the universe. A relevant passage.<\/p>\n

In his book Until the End of Time: Mind, Matter, and Our Search for Meaning in an Evolving Universe Columbia University physicist Brian Greene quotes an interesting thought experiment…where they ask how what we think is meaningful would change if the universe were ending tomorrow. He then asks whether it makes a difference whether the universe was ending in a year, 10 years, 100 years, or a million years and then drives home the point that, since those increments are really basically the same compared to the eternal blackness afterwards, the end of the universe raises uncomfortable questions about why anything matters. (Contrast this with the very Latter-day Saint cosmological point made by non-Latter-day Saint scientist Freeman Dyson that \u201cno matter how far we go into the future, there will always be new things happening, new information coming in, new worlds to explore, a constantly expanding domain of life, consciousness, and memory.\u201d)<\/em><\/p>\n

I admire Green’s willingness to grab the dilemma by the horns as a non-believer instead of just hand-waving it away (like many of them do).<\/p>\n

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