{"id":50903,"date":"2025-08-14T03:02:58","date_gmt":"2025-08-14T09:02:58","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/?p=50903"},"modified":"2025-08-11T10:59:49","modified_gmt":"2025-08-11T16:59:49","slug":"prayer-at-the-beginning-of-class-my-experience-at-a-non-lds-university","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2025\/08\/prayer-at-the-beginning-of-class-my-experience-at-a-non-lds-university\/","title":{"rendered":"Prayer at the Beginning of Class: My Experience at a Non-LDS University"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-50914 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/ChatGPT-Image-Aug-6-2025-at-05_02_24-PM-800x533.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"507\" height=\"338\" srcset=\"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/ChatGPT-Image-Aug-6-2025-at-05_02_24-PM-800x533.png 800w, https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/ChatGPT-Image-Aug-6-2025-at-05_02_24-PM.png 1536w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 507px) 100vw, 507px\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Religiously speaking I have a weird CV. I may be one of the few people who has taught a class at all three of the major religious plus universities: BYU, Catholic University of America, and Baylor University (although you could include Yeshiva University in this list, and while I&#8217;ve done research with a Yeshiva U professor I haven&#8217;t taught a class there). I\u2019ve been at conferences when people have badmouthed Baptists only to see my Baylor affiliation, putting me in the strange position of feeling defensive and offended for a religion I don\u2019t subscribe to, and I have done so much Catholic-related research that you would be forgiven for mistakenly thinking that I am in fact Catholic.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So I\u2019ve had the opportunity to see the different ways that devoutly religious universities do the religion thing. (Of course there are other major religiously affiliated universities, but there\u2019s a gradation for how intentionally they try to incorporate their religious mission into the curriculum and behavior of the faculty\/students, and the four I mentioned seem to take that the most seriously of all the major research universities.)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So when I occasionally teach at Catholic U I try to be a good citizen and carve out some time for discussing a Catholic perspective on whatever we\u2019re talking about, and I\u2019ll occasionally assign materials from Catholic teachings (I still remember, at the end of a sexuality class my prepared final lecture on <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Humanae Vitae<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> strangely veered into \u201csoaking,\u201d as evidently a lot of my students had been watching a little too much anti-Mormon Tick Tock and got really interested in my take on the subject).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">One of the traditions that BYU sometimes has that others don\u2019t is beginning class with a prayer, so again in the spirit of being a good citizen vis-a-vis their religious mission I have sometimes have classes that I routinely start with a prayer. I\u2019ve done it now for three courses. A few points:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Twice I\u2019ve fielded an anonymous survey among the students asking whether starting class with a prayer would be something they\u2019d be interested in, and in both cases I had significant majorities saying that they would be. Also, the response from other teachers has been positive. Of course I don\u2019t know if they\u2019ll start doing it, but I haven\u2019t gotten any kind of pushback about it being weird. So in principle the \u201cprayer at the beginning of class\u201d thing could be an innovation that happens at religious, non-BYU universities.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Theoretical enthusiasm notwithstanding, when I also did a survey about who would be willing to offer such a prayer the response was more tepid. In my experiences, generally there have been a handful courageous students, typically the more religious ones from what I could tell, who volunteer, and they cycle through prayer responsibilities, although I would occasionally volunteer myself and would give a traditional LDS-formula prayer (\u201cDear Heavenly Father\u2026Name of Jesus Christ Amen) after getting confirmation that that worked for Catholics.\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Of course, one issue is when the students\u2019 prayers don\u2019t follow a formula I could say myself. I\u2019m not going to follow along with a \u201cHail Mary,\u201d although I\u2019m comfortable repeating an \u201cOur Father,\u201d (and being slightly embarrassed when I can\u2019t quite remember the words in the right sequence). In cases where I didn&#8217;t feel theologically comfortable participating I\u2019d just sort of sit back a little bit and reverently fold my arms and omit the \u201camen\u201d at the end. I don\u2019t think most of the students noticed, and if they did it wasn\u2019t obnoxious or awkward.\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So it is a little awkward the first few moments when you ask for volunteers and at the beginning of class and there\u2019s sometimes silence, but overall I think it has enriched my class and has been a good experience for my students. <\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Religiously speaking I have a weird CV. I may be one of the few people who has taught a class at all three of the major religious plus universities: BYU, Catholic University of America, and Baylor University (although you could include Yeshiva University in this list, and while I&#8217;ve done research with a Yeshiva U professor I haven&#8217;t taught a class there). I\u2019ve been at conferences when people have badmouthed Baptists only to see my Baylor affiliation, putting me in the strange position of feeling defensive and offended for a religion I don\u2019t subscribe to, and I have done so much Catholic-related research that you would be forgiven for mistakenly thinking that I am in fact Catholic.\u00a0 So I\u2019ve had the opportunity to see the different ways that devoutly religious universities do the religion thing. (Of course there are other major religiously affiliated universities, but there\u2019s a gradation for how intentionally they try to incorporate their religious mission into the curriculum and behavior of the faculty\/students, and the four I mentioned seem to take that the most seriously of all the major research universities.)\u00a0 So when I occasionally teach at Catholic U I try to be a good citizen and [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":10403,"featured_media":50914,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3028],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-50903","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-prayer"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/08\/ChatGPT-Image-Aug-6-2025-at-05_02_24-PM.png","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50903","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/10403"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=50903"}],"version-history":[{"count":9,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50903\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":50952,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/50903\/revisions\/50952"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/50914"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=50903"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=50903"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=50903"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}