{"id":49021,"date":"2025-02-02T10:02:14","date_gmt":"2025-02-02T17:02:14","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/?p=49021"},"modified":"2025-02-02T10:03:18","modified_gmt":"2025-02-02T17:03:18","slug":"we-are-willing-to-receive-all-truth-from-whatever-source-it-may-come","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2025\/02\/we-are-willing-to-receive-all-truth-from-whatever-source-it-may-come\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;We are willing to receive all truth, from whatever source it may come\u201d"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cWe believe in all truth, no matter to what subject it may refer\u2026. We are willing to receive all truth, from whatever source it may come.\u201d Joseph F. Smith, April Conference 1909. [1]<\/p>\n<p>As I see it, whatever was influencing JS was \u201ctrue\u201d if we believe Joseph Smith\u2019s revelations were true.<\/p>\n<p><!--more-->I took that position in 2008 when I got accepted to a seminar with Richard Bushman. Bushman was feeling overwhelmed with members\u2019 concerns about issues in Mormon history after publishing <em>Rough Stone Rolling<\/em> so he hoped there could be a better approach to tackling and discussing difficult issues within church education.<\/p>\n<p>Bushman had a list of concerns from the wife of a stake president in Europe and we added some more. I picked the issue of similarities to Swedenborg. We presented to the group after doing some research and my presentation was simple. \u201cSo what if Joseph Smith was influenced by Swedenborg? If we believe DC 76 is true, then who cares if Swedenborg also had truth?&#8221; I said a bit more than that, but that was my main point. [2]<\/p>\n<p>The guys grilled me for an hour saying it can\u2019t be the simple with me insisting that I believed it was exactly the simple. [3]<\/p>\n<p>So again, back to the question I asked Ryan: why is it okay for JS to be influenced by the Bible, but we balk at the possibility of other sources (like Swedenborg)? Put another way, why is the Bible okay, but Plato is not? Can we be \u201cwilling to receive all truth, from whatever source it may come\u201d? Does Joseph Smith need to get every unusual Mormon idea from the Bible, even when he said the Bible was missing truth?<\/p>\n<p>Indeed, the heading that JS added to DC 76 in his 1838 history which we now have in the <a href=\"https:\/\/www.churchofjesuschrist.org\/study\/scriptures\/dc-testament\/dc\/76?lang=eng\">current heading<\/a> declares, \u201cFrom sundry revelations which had been received, it was apparent that many important points touching the salvation of man had been taken from the Bible, or lost before it was compiled.\u201d Not only had truth been removed from the Bible like 1 Nephi 13:26 said, but there was truth (apparently related to DC 76) that never even made it into the Bible!<\/p>\n<p>But I\u2019ve noticed such a strong tendency over the last few decades (including responses to these posts) that many members seem to believe that ideas can only be true if they are biblical. Joseph Smith rejected Protestant notions of sola scriptura, but it\u2019s as though, living in a culture dominated by Protestant notions, we revert back to Protestant claims that JS rejected.<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p>[1] Joseph Smith said similar things. See the quotes I posted on the sixth comment on <a href=\"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2025\/01\/joseph-smith-plato-and-the-apostasy\/\">this previous post<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>[2] I\u2019m arguing that Plato and Lead are better fits for DC 76 than Swedenborg&#8217;s writings. JS did know of Swedenborg, but I don\u2019t think Swedenborg was very influential. Swedenborg was likely influenced by Lead.<\/p>\n<p>[3] Okay, over the passing years, I see that it\u2019s probably not quite that simple, but I still like the approach I laid out there.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cWe believe in all truth, no matter to what subject it may refer\u2026. We are willing to receive all truth, from whatever source it may come.\u201d Joseph F. Smith, April Conference 1909. 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