{"id":47310,"date":"2024-06-01T08:51:49","date_gmt":"2024-06-01T14:51:49","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/?p=47310"},"modified":"2025-05-28T20:27:02","modified_gmt":"2025-05-29T02:27:02","slug":"how-literally-do-members-take-the-churchs-truth-claims","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2024\/06\/how-literally-do-members-take-the-churchs-truth-claims\/","title":{"rendered":"How Literally Do Members Take the Church\u2019s Truth Claims?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Stephen Cranney and Josh Coates<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i>This is one of a series of posts discussing results from a recent survey of current and former Latter-day Saints conducted by the BH Roberts Foundation. The technical details are in the full methodology report <\/i><a href=\"https:\/\/bhroberts.org\/2023CFLDS_Methodology_.pdf\"><i>here<\/i><\/a><i>.\u00a0<\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Occasionally in Latter-day Saint discourse people that have lost their testimonies of the Church\u2019s truth claims float the idea that perhaps they could salvage their belief in the Church if it was made to be more allegorical and less literal.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">At the outset we admit our own perspective that, while we respect people\u2019s different beliefs and ways of making the Church work for them, this wouldn\u2019t really work at scale, and that for the Church to actual continuing functioning as a living, breathing, growing faith, and not just a cultural relic of a bygone sociocultural movement of a kind of \u201cdescendents of the Mormon pioneers\u201d lineage-based service organization, it has to not only hold to its literal truth claims, but to actively promote and defend them.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Community of Christ, for example, does not have a position on the historicity of the Book of Mormon (or of many historical questions in general). The ambivalence of leadership towards actively promoting literal truth claims is undoubtedly sensed by the membership, who follow suit. (And as an aside, contrary to widespread missionary folklore, they did not \u201crenounce\u201d the Book of Mormon to be accepted by mainstream Protestants.)<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Of course, how common the allegorical view of Latter-day Saint belief is, is an open question, and there is a very real chance that the influence of this group is biased by their being overrepresented in the scholarly Latter-day Saint and Very Online Mormon community. And so we decided to ask about two very central truth claims that the Church makes: Book of Mormon historicity and the First Vision.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Which of the following best describes your belief?<\/span><\/i><i><\/i><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I believe the Book of Mormon is a true record of ancient people who actually existed.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I believe the Book of Mormon is writing inspired by God, but there weren&#8217;t actually any literal Nephites or Lamanites.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Book of Mormon is uninspired fiction.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I&#8217;m undecided on what I believe.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Joseph Smith literally saw God the Father and Jesus Christ.<\/span><\/i><i><\/i><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Strongly disagree<\/span><\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Disagree<\/span><\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Somewhat disagree<\/span><\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Neither agree nor disagree<\/span><\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Somewhat agree<\/span><\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Agree<\/span><\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Strongly agree<\/span><\/i><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We were also interested in looking at the combination of these two questions. For example, do people who hold to a more allegorical interpretation of the Book of Mormon hold to the reality of the First Vision? Or does the allegorical approach map onto a more generic lack of confidence in any supernatural aspect to the Church\u2019s truth claims?\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-47312 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/JPEG1-800x476.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"667\" height=\"407\" \/><\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-47313 aligncenter\" src=\"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/jpeg2-800x474.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"501\" height=\"302\" \/><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">We find that:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<ol>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">People who hold that the Book of Mormon is inspired-but-not-historical are a small fraction, about 2-5% of members, with the most being found in the non-Mormon Corridor, Facebook sample.\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">About 6-9% of our sample are agnostic towards Book of Mormon historicity.\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Only 1-2% hold that the Book of Mormon is uninspired fiction.\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">On the First Vision, about 5% of members disagree that Joseph Smith literally saw God, about 4% appear to have a sort of agnostic attitude about it, with the rest agreeing to some extent. With about \u00be \u201cstrongly agreeing\u201d that he did.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">However, while the sample sizes are quite small, a good chunk of the \u201cinspired but not historical\u201d crowd do believe that Joseph Smith saw God the Father and Jesus Christ. Of the \u201cinspired but not historically true\u201d respondents, about half of them agree to some extent that Joseph Smith saw God and about 20-30% of them neither agree nor disagree. Of people who agree that the Book of Mormon is historical, 80-85% of them strongly agree that Joseph Smith saw God the Father and Jesus Christ.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So while there do appear to be some in the Church that have found a way to make the Church\u2019s truth claims work by taking a more allegorical perspective, this does not appear to be widespread, and we suspect that most people who lose faith in the historicity of the Book of Mormon or the First Vision typically leave the Church.<\/span><\/p>\n<p><br style=\"font-weight: 400;\" \/><br style=\"font-weight: 400;\" \/><\/p>\n<p><br style=\"font-weight: 400;\" \/><br style=\"font-weight: 400;\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Stephen Cranney and Josh Coates This is one of a series of posts discussing results from a recent survey of current and former Latter-day Saints conducted by the BH Roberts Foundation. The technical details are in the full methodology report here.\u00a0 Occasionally in Latter-day Saint discourse people that have lost their testimonies of the Church\u2019s truth claims float the idea that perhaps they could salvage their belief in the Church if it was made to be more allegorical and less literal. At the outset we admit our own perspective that, while we respect people\u2019s different beliefs and ways of making the Church work for them, this wouldn\u2019t really work at scale, and that for the Church to actual continuing functioning as a living, breathing, growing faith, and not just a cultural relic of a bygone sociocultural movement of a kind of \u201cdescendents of the Mormon pioneers\u201d lineage-based service organization, it has to not only hold to its literal truth claims, but to actively promote and defend them. The Community of Christ, for example, does not have a position on the historicity of the Book of Mormon (or of many historical questions in general). The ambivalence of leadership towards actively promoting [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":10403,"featured_media":47311,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2976],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-47310","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-b-h-roberts-foundation"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2024\/06\/Screenshot-2024-06-01-at-10.47.14?AM.png","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47310","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/10403"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=47310"}],"version-history":[{"count":2,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47310\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":50253,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/47310\/revisions\/50253"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/47311"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=47310"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=47310"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=47310"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}