{"id":44277,"date":"2023-03-08T10:31:32","date_gmt":"2023-03-08T18:31:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/?p=44277"},"modified":"2025-05-28T07:49:37","modified_gmt":"2025-05-28T13:49:37","slug":"the-church-in-2080-part-i-race-ethnicity-and-languages","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2023\/03\/the-church-in-2080-part-i-race-ethnicity-and-languages\/","title":{"rendered":"The Church in 2080, Part I: Race, Ethnicity, and Languages"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Projecting out on a very long horizon is a bit of a fool\u2019s errand because of unknown unknowns, which is why most formal demographic, political, or economic projections have time horizons measured in the decades at the most. Still, occasionally it\u2019s fun to project out farther (For example, the UN came out with a report <a href=\"https:\/\/www.un.org\/development\/desa\/pd\/sites\/www.un.org.development.desa.pd\/files\/files\/documents\/2020\/Jan\/un_2002_world_population_to_2300.pdf\">that projected country populations out to 2300<\/a><\/span><\/i><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">).\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Additionally, most projections are limited to a few indicators, but it\u2019s also fun sometimes to take a step back and think about how changing indicators integrate into a whole picture. So with that, this series is my throwing-caution-to-the-wind conjecture for what the Church will look like in 2080. At this point I will be 93, so this will be the Church that my great-grandchildren will be baptized into. All of these predictions are tentative, but for ease of flow I will dispense with \u201cI suspect,\u201d \u201cI think,\u201d or \u201cprobably,\u201d and will just state them as predictions. That will make me sound very sure of myself, but that\u2019s not the intent.\u00a0<\/span><\/i><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Perhaps the most slam-dunk prognostication is that Church meetings in the US in the year 2080 will be much less \u201cwhite,\u201d but that\u2019s easy because society in general <a href=\"https:\/\/www.census.gov\/content\/dam\/Census\/library\/publications\/2020\/demo\/p25-1144.pdf\">will be less white<\/a>. Additionally, as proselytizing is more effective in lower income communities (haven\u2019t seen any studies on this but it\u2019s one of those received wisdoms that I\u2019m pretty sure is true), eventually the turnover from the white, elite, General Authority grandson leaving the Church and going on <\/span><i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Mormon Stories<\/span><\/i><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\"> while the agricultural worker near the border joins the local branch; lather, rinse, repeat by 60 years, is going to affect what the Church looks like. The largely white, non-Hispanic, Utah pioneer stock families will be less of a force in the Church, with their descendants largely having left, or not having had enough children who stayed to replace themselves in the pews. (And before somebody accuses me of promoting the Great Replacement Theory; A, that\u2019s not what the Great Replacement Theory is, and B, I\u2019m not saying this is a bad development).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">However, this is far enough in the future that by then our notions of race and ethnicity will have changed quite a bit. In much the same way that we don\u2019t think of Irish Americans or German Americans as a reified community anymore, so too do I think the Hispanic label will be less meaningful as everybody comes to have some Hispanic and non-Hispanic in them. The intermixing and ebbs and flows of racial and ethnic boundaries will likely produce entirely new categories of interest by then. We might be like Brazil, where everybody has a little bit of everything and race\/ethnicity is super complicated. I mean, it already is, but even more so (of course I&#8217;m sure the denizens of the American Sociological Association will keep on writing the same five papers on the subject they always write regardless of how the on-the-ground, categorical reality changes).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Internationally, as <a href=\"https:\/\/web.archive.org\/web\/20221026013029mp_\/https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2022\/05\/the-future-and-the-church-part-v-when-will-there-be-more-african-wards-than-north-american-wards\/\">I\u2019ve written about before<\/a><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">, Sub-Saharan Africa will loom much larger in the Church. This is kind of a no-duh Sherlock conclusion given not just differential conversion rates, but also differences in population growth in general (according to some estimates, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.weforum.org\/agenda\/2020\/09\/the-world-population-in-2100-by-country\/\">by 2100 Nigeria will be the second most populous country in the world<\/a><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">This will also be around the 100th anniversary of the 1978 revelation. If the Church moves from a \u201cwe don\u2019t know\u201d quasi-official line to \u201cthey were subject to the biases of their day,\u201d it will be much easier then with distance. Nobody alive will have a clear memory of the priesthood or temple ban. While time won\u2019t necessarily heal this wound, it will become slightly more academic and abstract, like the Church\u2019s early opposition to Prohibition is today as it fades further into the past (I\u2019m not comparing the two in terms of substance, just drawing out a reference point for how far in the past 100 years is).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Linguistically, Spanish wards will be less of a thing. People like to claim that Hispanics come over here and \u201cdon\u2019t learn our language,\u201d but in fact Hispanic immigrants are learning English at rates comparable to the Italians and other early-20th century migrant groups (to oversimplify: 1st generation immigrants don\u2019t speak English very well, 2nd generation is bilingual, and 3rd generation is monolingual English).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Internationally, as many if not most languages worldwide die off, we may reach a point where the Church is essentially \u201cfinished\u201d with translating canonized scripture, and its translation efforts will be geared towards other content the Church produces. Additionally, AI-based translation may be sophisticated enough by then to obviate the need for a professional translation department.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Finally, there is a reason why, in demographic projections, immigration is the big unknown. Based on where a country is in their economic development, I can reasonably estimate what their fertility rate will be, and the gears of demography grind slowly. However, more than births and deaths, immigration is susceptible to the vagaries of geopolitics. For example, the Hmong community in the United States today essentially exists because of a handful decisions made by a handful of government officials during the Vietnam War. That\u2019s not the kind of thing you can predict. Given that 60 years is a long time, I\u2019d bet that at some point between now and then one or more large migrant communities will spring up from refugee streams a la Cuban Americans in Florida; who they are I have no idea at this point, but for all I know my grandchildren will be called to preach the gospel in the Uzbek language in the suburbs of Dallas.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I\u2019ll tie all this together and what it means closer to the end of the series, but to summarize, in the year 2080:<\/span><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Church in the US will be much less \u201cwhite,\u201d but what white means will probably have changed.\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There will be fewer Spanish units as a proportion of all units.\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There may be additional mission fields within the US opened up as refugees arrive in the US from some country or another.\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<li style=\"font-weight: 400;\" aria-level=\"1\"><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">The Church may not be producing new translations of scripture.\u00a0<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Projecting out on a very long horizon is a bit of a fool\u2019s errand because of unknown unknowns, which is why most formal demographic, political, or economic projections have time horizons measured in the decades at the most. Still, occasionally it\u2019s fun to project out farther (For example, the UN came out with a report that projected country populations out to 2300).\u00a0 Additionally, most projections are limited to a few indicators, but it\u2019s also fun sometimes to take a step back and think about how changing indicators integrate into a whole picture. So with that, this series is my throwing-caution-to-the-wind conjecture for what the Church will look like in 2080. At this point I will be 93, so this will be the Church that my great-grandchildren will be baptized into. All of these predictions are tentative, but for ease of flow I will dispense with \u201cI suspect,\u201d \u201cI think,\u201d or \u201cprobably,\u201d and will just state them as predictions. That will make me sound very sure of myself, but that\u2019s not the intent.\u00a0 Perhaps the most slam-dunk prognostication is that Church meetings in the US in the year 2080 will be much less \u201cwhite,\u201d but that\u2019s easy because society in general [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":10403,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[34],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-44277","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-social-sciences-and-economics"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44277","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/10403"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=44277"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44277\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":50181,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/44277\/revisions\/50181"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=44277"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=44277"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=44277"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}