{"id":43268,"date":"2022-07-16T11:56:55","date_gmt":"2022-07-16T16:56:55","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/?p=43268"},"modified":"2025-05-26T10:12:50","modified_gmt":"2025-05-26T16:12:50","slug":"the-first-thing-reported-about-mission-presidents-is-family-size-and-thats-good","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2022\/07\/the-first-thing-reported-about-mission-presidents-is-family-size-and-thats-good\/","title":{"rendered":"Family Size is The First Thing Reported about Mission Presidents\u2013and That\u2019s Good"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-43270 aligncenter\" src=\"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/Screen-Shot-2022-07-14-at-10.58.34-PM-800x552.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"366\" height=\"257\" \/><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">I noticed the other day when looking up a recently called mission president that the mission president bios follow a <a href=\"https:\/\/www.thechurchnews.com\/callings\/2022-02-25\/new-mission-leaders-called-st-george-utah-uganda-brazil-missouri-arizona-idaho-243877\">pretty standard format<\/a>: name, age, number of children, past church callings, and background.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Now, this is one of those things that was probably decided by a mid-level official in the COB, so I don\u2019t want to read too much into this, but it seemed like in the past occupation was usually included and family size was included later if at all. I like the new emphasis. In a Latter-day Saint context honoring people for their family makes more sense than honoring them for their occupational accomplishments. (While it is true that not everybody can have a family or a large one, the same is true for occupational success, and often for reasons that are just as arbitrary as infertility, but one hardly hears that we shouldn\u2019t congratulate people for their degrees or other worldly accomplishments.)\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Recently there\u2019s been <a href=\"https:\/\/bycommonconsent.com\/2022\/07\/14\/transcript-mormon-womens-whiplash\">some discussion <\/a><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">about the mixed messages women in the Church receive when rhetorically childbearing and rearing is emphasized, but professionally successful women, some with small or no families, are put on pedestals whether in leadership positions or the \u201cI am a Mormon\u201d campaign.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In terms of leadership, I\u2019m fine giving those positions to people with managerial experience <a href=\"https:\/\/www.timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2022\/05\/why-do-church-leaders-tend-to-be-wealthy\/\">as long as we move away from honoring leadership as the most righteous by definition<\/a><\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">; also, I wouldn\u2019t be surprised if the \u201cI am a Mormon\u201d tableaus were chosen by a mid-level PR executive in the Church who wanted to make us look hip, but still, given how much we honor leadership in the Church the \u201cwhiplash\u201d point is well taken.\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">There is also a male version of this as well (and before people jump down my throat, I\u2019m not making a claim of equivalency here). The fact of the matter is that, for both men and women (although especially for women) it is difficult to become world class in your field while having a large family. While occasionally a Professor Valerie Hudson or President Russell M. Nelson (and yes, Prof. Hudson is world class despite attempts from some on the left in the Church to excommunicate her from the intelligentsia for her heresy against progressive ideological orthodoxy) can pull it off, it\u2019s pretty rare. As a male, if you were to use the demographics of the brethren to try to emulate them, you would have 3 or so children, try to get into a top-ten professional school of some sort, and have a very successful career. (Of course, if you build your life around the demographic and socioeconomic [not spiritual] characteristics of who happens to be in Church leadership you\u2019re going to feel pretty dumb on your deathbed).\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Now, the brethren with smaller families (in a Latter-day Saint context) have been very open about their different medical challenges that have led to their smaller families (e.g. Holland and Renlund), which provide examples for why we should not assume in any individual case that smaller families were chosen to specifically help their career (but let\u2019s not pretend that\u2019s not a thing in the Church or society in general). Still, it\u2019s likely that Elder Holland would not have gone to Yale and Elder Uchtdorf would not have been a highly successful aviation executive had they had 10 kids.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">While the mixed messages concern is warranted, for me from a Latter-day Saint perspective it\u2019s a no-brainer what the tradeoff should be when family size is explicitly weighed against occupational success (there are other reasons to not have as many kids that I\u2019m not addressing here such as financial stability or mental health, this is specifically about occupational achievements vs child number tradeoff, and again please spare me the gaslighting that that\u2019s not a consideration for some).\u00a0\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">As a millennial (albeit an atypical one who was married at 21 and a father at 22), I tend to agree with many of the criticisms of my generation (of course true to form I think most of them apply to the people who came after my cohort\u2026). However, one area where I think we got it more right than our parents is that we are less suckered into the scam of trying to find meaning in our status at work. That was always a bit of a ponzi scheme, and I think my generation finally caught on.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In my generation at least it seemed every high schooler with a 4.0 thought that they were going to be a Joseph Kennedy or Thomas Edison, but the fact is that the vast, vast majority of our professional work is doomed for the void after we die. That doesn\u2019t mean we shouldn\u2019t eat our bread by the sweat of our brow, but rather that we should not grant our earthly work the same kind of supernal significance we grant family.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">In my family growing up we had a saying that \u201cthat which is not eternal is too short.\u201d If you zoom out on the historical timeline far enough, even the accomplishments of the people we read about in our 20th century history textbooks will become another Ozymandian sculpture buried in the sand, and the infinitesimally few who are granted legitimate historical immortality happened to be at the right place at the right time in history; in other words, it\u2019s not something one can or should really aspire to.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Conversely, it\u2019s clear from early and contemporary Church rhetoric and teachings that our childbearing and rearing has eternal consequences and is a fundamental part of Latter-day Saint cosmology. While people love to talk about the sealings to many wives in Nauvoo and Utah, much less discussed but just as important in the Latter-day Saint worldview were the sealing adoptions of many children. The hypernatalism of the early Church was well supported by the theology and teachings of the same. (I discussed this to some detail in a paper I wrote at a Maxwell Institute Seminar under Claudia and Richard Bushman; unfortunately despite being rather anodyne it appears to have been memory holed, which I wouldn\u2019t mind except I didn\u2019t keep a final copy since I assumed it would always be online).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">Parley P. Pratt said that Joseph Smith taught him \u201cthe <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">idea of eternal family organization\u2026which [is] at the very foundation of everything worthy to be called happiness,\u201d and <\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">we have a faith where literally the defining characteristic of the highest realm of heaven is the creation of an infinite number of children.\u00a0<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">So I think I\u2019m on strong theological footing to say that for both men and women making it to the C-suite is of infinit<\/span><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">esimally small worth compared to having more children. Less theologically, children are associated with the most tender and intense feelings for good or ill that we\u2019ll feel in our lives. It\u2019s clear that however much late stage capitalism tries to convince us that that board presentation matters on the most fundamental level, our inner gut is still primarily hardwired towards protecting our babies on the savannah. (Even taking religion out of the framing, the tweet, while done in jest, kind of pithily makes the point why emphasizing career is a raw deal no matter how you look at it).\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><span style=\"font-weight: 400;\">While there is a gendered component to it, even for men like me with a stay-at-home wife (who couldn\u2019t care less about her or my professional accolades), it\u2019s clear that I will never be world class with my family size (and sleep needs), and that\u2019s completely fine. I\u2019m around world class professionals enough in my work in DC that I see what the end of that road looks like, and while it\u2019s not an unpleasant road and more power to them, at the same time it\u2019s really not any more pleasant than what I have now, and we all end up in the same ground, so I\u2019m not going to build my life around getting the corner office or being the person who drops into the call for two minutes, makes the big decision, then leaves for another meeting. When I think of my children I can\u2019t imagine exchanging even one of them for all the \u201cchief seats\u201d in the conference room tables in the world.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n<p><br style=\"font-weight: 400;\" \/><br style=\"font-weight: 400;\" \/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I noticed the other day when looking up a recently called mission president that the mission president bios follow a pretty standard format: name, age, number of children, past church callings, and background.\u00a0 Now, this is one of those things that was probably decided by a mid-level official in the COB, so I don\u2019t want to read too much into this, but it seemed like in the past occupation was usually included and family size was included later if at all. I like the new emphasis. In a Latter-day Saint context honoring people for their family makes more sense than honoring them for their occupational accomplishments. (While it is true that not everybody can have a family or a large one, the same is true for occupational success, and often for reasons that are just as arbitrary as infertility, but one hardly hears that we shouldn\u2019t congratulate people for their degrees or other worldly accomplishments.)\u00a0 Recently there\u2019s been some discussion about the mixed messages women in the Church receive when rhetorically childbearing and rearing is emphasized, but professionally successful women, some with small or no families, are put on pedestals whether in leadership positions or the \u201cI am a Mormon\u201d [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":10403,"featured_media":43270,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2970],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-43268","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-church-leadership-and-policies"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2022\/07\/Screen-Shot-2022-07-14-at-10.58.34-PM.png","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43268","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/10403"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=43268"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43268\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":50130,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/43268\/revisions\/50130"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/43270"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=43268"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=43268"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=43268"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}