{"id":4101,"date":"2007-09-17T20:27:44","date_gmt":"2007-09-18T00:27:44","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/?p=4101"},"modified":"2007-09-17T20:32:43","modified_gmt":"2007-09-18T00:32:43","slug":"a-brief-conversation-about-belief","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2007\/09\/a-brief-conversation-about-belief\/","title":{"rendered":"A Brief Conversation About Belief"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Sir Poach-a-Lot:  Is belief objective, or subjective?<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>SuperGenius: This is age-old Fideism we&#8217;re talking about.  Luther said: &#8220;All the articles of our Christian faith, which God has revealed to us in His Word, are in presence of reason sheerly impossible, absurd, and false.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Sir P:  Sometimes the scriptures act like belief should be objective.  Such as Alma to Korihor: &#8220;look at the evidence, bonehead.&#8221;  It implies an objective view.  If it were wholly subjective, why refer to evidence?  Just say, &#8220;Believe&#8221;!<\/p>\n<p>SG:  You can&#8217;t deny objective evidence. The fact that Korihor denies means that it&#8217;s not objective.<\/p>\n<p>Sir P: Why use evidence at all, then?  Why FARMS?<\/p>\n<p>SG:  Excellent question.  Mormonism makes certain truth claims. For some members, the religion relies on those for validity.  But, like I said at BCC &#8212; if all someone can do is dwell on the confusing aspects of Church history, it\u00e2\u20ac\u2122s no wonder some people aren\u00e2\u20ac\u2122t happy. Doubt and confusion will likely plague you in these matters until you die.<\/p>\n<p>Sir P:  For some people, the semblance of objective belief is what they need to build a subjective belief.<\/p>\n<p>SG: Yes.<\/p>\n<p>Sir P:  But at the core, it&#8217;s all subjective.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Sir Poach-a-Lot: Is belief objective, or subjective?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4101","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-corn"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4101","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4101"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4101\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4101"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4101"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4101"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}