{"id":3979,"date":"2007-07-24T04:08:58","date_gmt":"2007-07-24T08:08:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/?p=3979"},"modified":"2007-07-24T10:05:05","modified_gmt":"2007-07-24T14:05:05","slug":"the-hafens-on-equality","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2007\/07\/the-hafens-on-equality\/","title":{"rendered":"The Hafens on Equality"},"content":{"rendered":"

ECS wrote about this article over at FMH<\/a> [1]; I’d like to take a different perspective on it–I want to tell you what I liked about it. [2]<\/p>\n

(1) First and most importantly, the article makes very clear that the LDS Church does not<\/strong> believe that wives should submit to their husbands.<\/p>\n

(2) They explore how unexamined assumptions from one’s upbringing can affect thinking as an adult.<\/p>\n

(3) They point to the errors of “traditionalists” (who want women to be dependent on men) and “liberationists” (who want women to be independent of men) and call for marital interdependence.<\/p>\n

(4) They cite Elaine Pagels’ Adam, Eve, and the Serpent<\/a><\/em> in the footnotes. <\/p>\n

(5) They really try to grapple with scriptural texts; although I don’t entirely agree with their parsing of “meet” or “ruler,” I give them high marks for trying.<\/p>\n

(6) They quote the President Kimball quote that should be the final nail in the coffin for the ever-pervasive folk doctrines surrounding the meaning of “presiding”:<\/p>\n

No woman has been asked by the Church authorities to follow her husband into an evil pit. She is to follow him [only] as he follows and obeys the Savior of the world, but in deciding [whether he is obeying Christ], she should always be sure she is fair.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

(7) Elder Maxwell’s line about the error in the Church that the men have been the theologians while the women have been the Christians is a good one and well worth repeating. The story about Elder Maxwell graciously submitting to his wife is a nice touch, too.<\/p>\n

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[1] What’s up with her getting the Ensign at least four days before me? And it still isn’t online.<\/p>\n

[2] Like ECS, the “women are naturally more spiritual than men” position–which is included in this article–has never seemed true to me. But I grant that it may just be me–maybe normal women are more spiritual than normal men and I’m hanging out on the tip of the bell curve.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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