{"id":32830,"date":"2015-02-23T06:49:15","date_gmt":"2015-02-23T11:49:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/?p=32830"},"modified":"2015-02-23T13:45:51","modified_gmt":"2015-02-23T18:45:51","slug":"they-spoke-in-general-conference-as-ones-that-had-authority","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2015\/02\/they-spoke-in-general-conference-as-ones-that-had-authority\/","title":{"rendered":"They Spoke in General Conference as Ones That Had Authority"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cAnd they were astonished at his doctrine: for he taught them as one that had authority, and not as the scribes.\u201d \u2013Mark 1:22 (see also Matthew 7:29)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/thomas-s-monson-living-prophet-1115559.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\" size-full wp-image-32835 alignleft\" src=\"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/thomas-s-monson-living-prophet-1115559.jpg\" alt=\"thomas-s-monson-living-prophet 1115559\" width=\"187\" height=\"120\" \/><\/a>This scripture is often read to mean that Jesus expounded doctrine directly, rather than citing repeatedly what others had taught before (see some detailed discussion <a href=\"http:\/\/biblehub.com\/commentaries\/matthew\/7-29.htm\">here<\/a>). As <a href=\"http:\/\/biblehub.com\/commentaries\/ellicott\/matthew\/7.htm\">Ellicott puts it<\/a>, \u201cIt is the prophet, or rather, perhaps, the king, who speaks, and not the scribe.\u201d This scripture led me to wonder how leaders in the modern Church refer to different types of authority in their teaching.<\/p>\n<p>So I went through a single General Conference \u2013 the most recent, from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lds.org\/general-conference\/sessions\/2014\/10?lang=eng\">October 2014<\/a> \u2013 and tallied up quotes of authority of different kinds. I separated the quotes into four categories:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Scriptures: This includes only the four canonical books of LDS scripture.<\/li>\n<li>High LDS Authority: This includes General Conference talks (by General Authorities <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">or<\/span> auxiliaries), other recorded talks or Ensign articles by General Authorities or auxiliaries, books by General Authorities, unrecorded quotes from General Authorities (e.g., \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.lds.org\/general-conference\/2014\/10\/which-way-do-you-face?lang=eng\">President Boyd K. Packer surprised me with this puzzling question<\/a>\u201d), and non-canonical resources that are often regarded as authoritative, like the Church Handbook, the Bible Dictionary, or the Proclamation on the Family.<\/li>\n<li>Medium LDS Authority: This includes books by LDS people who are not General Authorities (e.g., Harriet Uchtdorf\u2019s book <a href=\"http:\/\/deseretbook.com\/Light-We-Share-Harriet-R-Uchtdorf\/i\/5119035\"><em>The Light We Share<\/em><\/a>) and unrecorded quotes from members of the Church (e.g., \u201ca sister missionary said this\u201d, or \u201cmy wife told me\u201d).<\/li>\n<li>No LDS Authority: This includes quotes from books and news articles by non-LDS authors (or at least, authors who I have no reason to believe are LDS), as well as unrecorded quotes from non-LDS individuals (e.g., \u201c<a href=\"https:\/\/www.lds.org\/general-conference\/2014\/10\/continuing-revelation?lang=eng\">the man from the federal disaster agency said<\/a>\u201d).<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>I stuck with simple counts: how many times are verses of scripture quoted? How many times are General Conference talks quoted? If you quote 1 Nephi 1:1 twice in your talk, you get two \u201cpoints\u201d for it. Likewise, for simplicity, I stuck only with quotes. So if a speaker recounts a scripture story without quoting any of it, then that wouldn\u2019t be counted.<\/p>\n<p>First, how common are each of these forms of authority? The figure below shows how often we\u2019d get a quote per 15 minutes of talk. The average talk length is 13 minutes, ranging from 3 minutes (for President Monson\u2019s \u201cUntil We Meet Again\u201d) to 20 minutes (President Uchtdorf\u2019s \u201cLiving the Gospel Joyful\u201d). Scriptures are cited often (almost one per minute). All other forms of authority are much less frequent, with High LDS Authority quotes about twice (on average), and other levels of authority much less often.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/averages-over-all.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-32832\" src=\"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/averages-over-all.jpg\" alt=\"averages over all\" width=\"485\" height=\"293\" srcset=\"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/averages-over-all.jpg 485w, https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/averages-over-all-300x181.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 485px) 100vw, 485px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Now to the question at hand: Do leaders in different positions rely more or less on authority? They do. If we compare those who are sustained as prophets, seers, and revelators (i.e., the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles) to all other speakers, we see that the prophets are much less likely to quote high authority sources or medium authority sources, as in the figure below. The prophets, seers, and revelators are in blue. The other speakers (Seventies, Auxiliary leaders, Presiding Bishopric) are in either red or gray. Note that the differences in red\u00a0are those that we can be relatively confident (95%) are not just random noise. Even though it seems like prophets are likely to quote the scriptures less often, there is just so much variation that we can\u2019t be confident that the difference isn\u2019t just noise in the data.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/by-group.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-32833\" src=\"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/by-group.jpg\" alt=\"by group\" width=\"550\" height=\"294\" srcset=\"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/by-group.jpg 550w, https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/by-group-300x160.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s interesting to note just how much variation these averages mask. If you look at the table below, you\u2019ll see that although the averages are different (which is what we saw in the figure above), the ranges are almost identical. There are prophets quoting scripture more than 30 times (per 15 minutes!), and there are other speakers doing the same thing (compare <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lds.org\/general-conference\/2014\/10\/eternal-life-to-know-our-heavenly-father-and-his-son-jesus-christ?lang=eng\">Elder Hales<\/a> of the Twelve and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lds.org\/general-conference\/2014\/10\/which-way-do-you-face?lang=eng\">Elder Robbins<\/a> of the Presidency of the Seventy). Likewise, there are prophets quoting high authority sources more than 8 times, and there are other speakers doing the same (compare <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lds.org\/general-conference\/2014\/10\/stay-in-the-boat-and-hold-on?lang=eng\">Elder Ballard<\/a> of the Twelve and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lds.org\/general-conference\/2014\/10\/prepared-in-a-manner-that-never-had-been-known?lang=eng\">President Burton<\/a> of the Relief Society). So speakers aren\u2019t uniformly adhering to some unwritten rule.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/table.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-32834\" src=\"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/table.jpg\" alt=\"table\" width=\"595\" height=\"134\" srcset=\"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/table.jpg 595w, https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/table-300x68.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 595px) 100vw, 595px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>But on average, it certainly does seems like, just as Mark and Matthew reported was true for the Savior, our prophets are much less likely to refer to earlier authority in their teaching.<\/p>\n<p>Notes<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lds.org\/general-conference\/2014\/10\/stay-in-the-boat-and-hold-on?lang=eng\">Elder Ballard<\/a>, interestingly, quotes previous talks from himself at length. In this conference, he\u2019s the only one to do that.<\/li>\n<li>Thirty-one previous General Conference talks are referred to over the course of the conference. The only talk to be mentioned by two speakers is Elder Oaks\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.lds.org\/general-conference\/2007\/10\/good-better-best?lang=eng\">\u201cGood, Better, Best\u201d<\/a> talk from 2007.<\/li>\n<li>If you drop President Monson\u2019s welcome and farewell talks, then the High Authority result remains statistically robust (99% confidence), and the Medium Authority result drops just a little (to 93% confidence). Conventions on levels of confidence vary across fields of study.<\/li>\n<li>I played with disaggregation of the authority categories some and the patterns seem consistent.<\/li>\n<li>Caveats: Of course, this is just one General Conference. And I believe the right (but much more time consuming) way to do this would be to count the words of scripture and other citations, since quoting five verses in full is very different from quoting a line from a single verse five times. So, that\u2019s something to look forward to once I retire from my day job.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><em>Addendum: Someone asked about the medians and standard deviations (i.e., are these results driven by outliers). While the regressions take the standard deviations into account, I constructed a bonus table with the medians and standard deviations (all calculated in Stata). As you can see, the High Authority results are more stark (if anything), the Medium Authority results look about the same. The scripture difference is smaller, but that wasn&#8217;t statistically significant in the main regressions anyway, so that&#8217;s consistent with what was reported above.\u00a0<\/em><a href=\"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/disco-remix-authority.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-32845\" src=\"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/disco-remix-authority.jpg\" alt=\"disco remix authority\" width=\"841\" height=\"122\" srcset=\"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/disco-remix-authority.jpg 841w, https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/disco-remix-authority-300x44.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 841px) 100vw, 841px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u201cAnd they were astonished at his doctrine: for he taught them as one that had authority, and not as the scribes.\u201d \u2013Mark 1:22 (see also Matthew 7:29) This scripture is often read to mean that Jesus expounded doctrine directly, rather than citing repeatedly what others had taught before (see some detailed discussion here). As Ellicott puts it, \u201cIt is the prophet, or rather, perhaps, the king, who speaks, and not the scribe.\u201d This scripture led me to wonder how leaders in the modern Church refer to different types of authority in their teaching. So I went through a single General Conference \u2013 the most recent, from October 2014 \u2013 and tallied up quotes of authority of different kinds. I separated the quotes into four categories: Scriptures: This includes only the four canonical books of LDS scripture. High LDS Authority: This includes General Conference talks (by General Authorities or auxiliaries), other recorded talks or Ensign articles by General Authorities or auxiliaries, books by General Authorities, unrecorded quotes from General Authorities (e.g., \u201cPresident Boyd K. Packer surprised me with this puzzling question\u201d), and non-canonical resources that are often regarded as authoritative, like the Church Handbook, the Bible Dictionary, or the Proclamation on [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":10383,"featured_media":32831,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1284],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-32830","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-general-conference-features"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/02\/image001.png","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32830","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/10383"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=32830"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32830\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":32846,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/32830\/revisions\/32846"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/32831"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=32830"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=32830"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=32830"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}