{"id":22206,"date":"2012-08-31T17:16:30","date_gmt":"2012-08-31T22:16:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/?p=22206"},"modified":"2018-03-08T18:06:01","modified_gmt":"2018-03-08T23:06:01","slug":"mormon-helaman-fiction-and-history-short-notes","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2012\/08\/mormon-helaman-fiction-and-history-short-notes\/","title":{"rendered":"Mormon, Helaman, Fiction, and History: Short Notes"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/Cylon_Centurion.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-22209\" style=\"margin: 5px;\" title=\"Cylon_Centurion\" src=\"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/Cylon_Centurion-300x300.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"180\" height=\"180\" srcset=\"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/Cylon_Centurion-300x300.png 300w, https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/Cylon_Centurion-150x150.png 150w, https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/Cylon_Centurion.png 325w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 180px) 100vw, 180px\" \/><\/a>We had some interesting discussion in Gospel Doctrine class on Sunday, focused on Helaman 2, where Helaman&#8217;s servant was joining Gadianton&#8217;s group. From my view, he wasn&#8217;t infiltrating the group, but joining for personal gain&#8230; until he learned what their higher goals were, at which point he bails out by killing Kishkumen and fleeing to Helaman, who sends out (the army? what? there&#8217;s no object in the sentence) to catch them.<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u00a011\u00a0But behold, when Gadianton had found that Kishkumen did not return he feared lest that he should be destroyed; therefore he caused that his band should follow him. And they took their flight out of the land, by a secret way, into the wilderness; and thus when Helaman sent forth to take them they could nowhere be found.\u00a012\u00a0And more of this Gadianton shall be spoken hereafter. And thus ended the forty and second year of the reign of the judges over the people of Nephi.\u00a013\u00a0And behold, <span style=\"text-decoration: underline;\">in the end of this book<\/span> ye shall see that this Gadianton\u00a0did prove the overthrow, yea, almost the entire destruction of the people of Nephi.\u00a014\u00a0Behold I do not mean the end of the\u00a0book\u00a0of Helaman, but I mean the end of the book of Nephi, from which I have taken all the account which I have written.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Some really interesting things here.<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>\u00a0Sometimes writers start off well, but have no idea where they&#8217;re going and write themselves into the ground; I think sadly of the graveyard of squandered fiction,\u00a0of\u00a0<em>Lost<\/em>,\u00a0<em>Alias<\/em>,\u00a0<em>X-files<\/em>,\u00a0<em>Battlestar Galactica<\/em>, or\u00a0<em>Heroes<\/em>. The writers don&#8217;t have the end in mind, and so the final season(s) stink. Mormon, by contrast, indicates here to us that he has read through the end of the records, and he knows <em>exactly<\/em> where this story is going: the eventual destruction of the Nephites. He was living the end of that story, but the point is, he tells us that he has more than the end point and starting point to work with in writing the Book of Mormon.<\/li>\n<li>This is a bit of an action scene and cliff-hanger. The antagonists mysteriously slip away and can&#8217;t be found. There&#8217;s no resolution, but Mormon the narrator informs us that one of these guys is going to be a major player for the rest of the Book of Mormon, or in <em>Buffy<\/em>\u00a0<em>the Vampire Slayer<\/em> terms, &#8220;<a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Big_Bad\">The Big Bad<\/a>.&#8221; We want to come back and read more to see what happens on next week&#8217;s episode.<\/li>\n<li>One of the interesting things to me is causality. I&#8217;m always interested to know what factors, conditions, or decisions lead up to something. In many ways, this is what History has traditionally been about, looking at the large events that happen and the historical matrix they happen in. (More recently, historians have shifted to take much more interest in the average lives of the commoner.) History-writing has much less certainty than, say, mathematics, because we have to reconstruct the past with whatever evidence remains, and then, based on our own assumptions, knowledge, and biases, connect those dots into a story. (<a href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/blogs\/benjaminthescribe\/2017\/02\/complexities-history-ensign\/\">The Ensign has had two good articles on that<\/a>.) \u00a0One can often end up with a very different story depending on the dots chosen and the lines we connect them with, but we have to <strong>have<\/strong>\u00a0those dots first, data to work with.I recall watching <a href=\"http:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt0401997\/\">Breach, the story of a strong Catholic FBI agent<\/a>\u00a0who had been selling secrets to the Russians for years. The movie covers how he was caught. While I very much enjoyed it, at the end I said, &#8220;How did this happen? You don&#8217;t just wake up one morning as a Christian FBI agent and say, &#8216;huh, think I&#8217;ll betray my country to the Russians today.&#8217; What choices did he make earlier, what happened to him, how did it happen?\n<p>Mormon was at the end of the story, witnessing the apocalyptic destruction of his people, and wondering quite painfully, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=xdBcsdk8pEY\">how did it come to this<\/a>? As someone with access to the records, Mormon had the dots, the historical data. A bit like <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Memento_(film)\"><em>Memento<\/em><\/a>, a movie in which the scenes are presented in reverse, Mormon has looked backwards through the records to find what led to it, and here in the record is the spot in time he sees. There, THAT is causality: &#8220;this Gadianton\u00a0did prove the overthrow, yea, almost the entire destruction of the people of Nephi.&#8221; If not for Gadianton, what might have happened?\u00a0Though we probably can&#8217;t and shouldn&#8217;t attribute causality to a single source, this is the beginning of the end that Mormon sees.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>An unusually thought-provoking Sunday School class.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>We had some interesting discussion in Gospel Doctrine class on Sunday, focused on Helaman 2, where Helaman&#8217;s servant was joining Gadianton&#8217;s group. From my view, he wasn&#8217;t infiltrating the group, but joining for personal gain&#8230; until he learned what their higher goals were, at which point he bails out by killing Kishkumen and fleeing to Helaman, who sends out (the army? what? there&#8217;s no object in the sentence) to catch them. \u00a011\u00a0But behold, when Gadianton had found that Kishkumen did not return he feared lest that he should be destroyed; therefore he caused that his band should follow him. And they took their flight out of the land, by a secret way, into the wilderness; and thus when Helaman sent forth to take them they could nowhere be found.\u00a012\u00a0And more of this Gadianton shall be spoken hereafter. And thus ended the forty and second year of the reign of the judges over the people of Nephi.\u00a013\u00a0And behold, in the end of this book ye shall see that this Gadianton\u00a0did prove the overthrow, yea, almost the entire destruction of the people of Nephi.\u00a014\u00a0Behold I do not mean the end of the\u00a0book\u00a0of Helaman, but I mean the end of the book of [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":23,"featured_media":22209,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-22206","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-corn"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/08\/Cylon_Centurion.png","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22206","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/23"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=22206"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22206\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":37745,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/22206\/revisions\/37745"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/22209"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=22206"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=22206"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=22206"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}