{"id":2163,"date":"2005-04-13T10:55:45","date_gmt":"2005-04-13T15:55:45","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=2163"},"modified":"2005-04-12T15:57:07","modified_gmt":"2005-04-12T20:57:07","slug":"blogging-and-man-dates","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2005\/04\/blogging-and-man-dates\/","title":{"rendered":"Bloggernacking and Man-dates"},"content":{"rendered":"

There’s been quite a bit of buzz in the blogosphere at large about Jennifer 8. Lee’s New York Times piece on “man-dates.”<\/a> Lee suggests that it is socially perilous for two heterosexual men to meet for dinner, without sports, business, or a bar to defuse the date-like-ness of the meeting. I don’t know how valid Lee’s thesis is in the broader spectrum (and there is some doubt being expressed on other<\/a> blogs<\/a>). But even if Lee is right, I think that the phenomenon may be one to which bloggernackers are immune. Or at least, to which I’m immune.<\/p>\n

After all, the last time I can think of when I went out to dinner with a guy was . . . oh, a few months ago, when Nate was in town. We had Brazilian food, and we talked about law and blogging and law some more. It was a fun conversation, and I have to say that I found it completely devoid of Jennifer Lee’s bugbears — “undercurrent of homoeroticism” or the “discomfort in socializing” between heterosexual men. <\/p>\n

For a while it looked like I was going to have dinner with Gordon in Washington several months ago. As it was, extra guests showed up, and we had a fun conversation with the whole group. But for a while it was just Gordon and I, and again I don’t recall feeling any discomfort. <\/p>\n

Maybe it’s that Nate and Gordon and I are law geeks and therefore conversant in the language of law geekiness. Maybe it’s that my own personal gay-dar is sufficiently defunct that I probably wouldn’t know a homoerotic undercurrent if it hit me over the head. (I’m always surprised when an acquaintance says he’s gay, since I have no ability at all to detect homosexuality in others). Maybe it’s that church members are used to talking to each other — we do it with home teaching companions, quorum members, and so on. I’m not quite sure why, but the “man-date” idea just doesn’t reflect my personal experiences at all.<\/p>\n

Is this “man-date” discomfort just something that Lee made up for her story? Is it something which I’m immune to, as a generally socially clueless individual? Or is it that the bloggernacle gives me immunity? I wonder.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

There’s been quite a bit of buzz in the blogosphere at large about Jennifer 8. Lee’s New York Times piece on “man-dates.” Lee suggests that it is socially perilous for two heterosexual men to meet for dinner, without sports, business, or a bar to defuse the date-like-ness of the meeting. I don’t know how valid Lee’s thesis is in the broader spectrum (and there is some doubt being expressed on other blogs). But even if Lee is right, I think that the phenomenon may be one to which bloggernackers are immune. Or at least, to which I’m immune.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-2163","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-corn"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2163","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=2163"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/2163\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2163"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=2163"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=2163"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}