{"id":20959,"date":"2012-06-15T16:14:53","date_gmt":"2012-06-15T21:14:53","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/?p=20959"},"modified":"2012-06-15T17:24:48","modified_gmt":"2012-06-15T22:24:48","slug":"for-whose-coming-i-am-seeking-quote-unquote-roger-williams","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2012\/06\/for-whose-coming-i-am-seeking-quote-unquote-roger-williams\/","title":{"rendered":"\u201cFor whose coming I am seeking\u201d: Quote-unquote Roger Williams"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/quotation-sm.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-thumbnail wp-image-20961\" title=\"quotation-sm\" src=\"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/quotation-sm-150x150.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/quotation-sm-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2012\/06\/quotation-sm.jpg 276w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a>In <em>Ensign<\/em> articles and in General Conference addresses, it is not unusual to find appeals to people before 1830 who thought that Christianity had slipped into general apostasy. One of the most prominent of these is Roger Williams (1603-1683), to whom the <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lds.org\/ensign\/1995\/12\/apostasy-restoration-and-lessons-in-faith?lang=eng\">following statement<\/a> is attributed.<!--more--><\/p>\n<blockquote><p>There is no regularly constituted church on earth, nor any person qualified to administer any church ordinances; nor can there be until new apostles are sent by the Great Head of the Church for whose coming I am seeking.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The source for this citation is nearly always identified as <em>Picturesque America<\/em> (1872) by William Cullen Bryant (1794-1878). This is somewhat troubling, as we usually prefer not to rely on nineteenth-century picture books to document statements made over two hundred years before they were published, even if the picture books were edited by famous poets. Can we find a better source?<\/p>\n<p>If you can find a copy of the first edition of <em>Picturesque America<\/em> (the passage is missing in later revised editions), you will indeed find a quotation from Roger Williams on pages 500-2:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Mr. Williams, however, continued to be [pastor of Providence\u2019s first Baptist congregation] for only four years, when he withdrew, not only from his official relations, but also ceased any longer to worship with his brethren, having come to the conclusion that there is \u201cno regularly-constituted Church on earth, nor any person authorized to administer any Church ordinance; nor could there be, until new apostles were sent by the great Head of the Church, for whose coming he was seeking.\u201d(Bryant 502)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Bryant is quoting Williams from somewhere \u2013 but he doesn\u2019t indicate the source. Are we stuck?<\/p>\n<p>Thanks to Google Books, no. A bit of searching shows that Bryant was quoting from what was for its time a quite reliable source: William R. Staples\u2019s <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=t2kUAAAAYAAJ&amp;pg=PA409#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false\"><em>Annals of the Town of Providence<\/em><\/a> (1843). Staples writes:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>A letter of Richard Scott appended to \u201cA New England Fire-Brand Quenched,\u201d and published about 1673, states that Mr. Williams left the Baptists and turned Seeker, a few months after he was baptized. Mr. Scott was a member of the Baptist church for some time, but at the date of this letter, had united with the Friends. According to Mr. Williams\u2019 new views as a Seeker, there was no regularly constituted church on earth, nor any person authorized to administer any church ordinance, nor could there be, until new apostles should be sent by the Great Head of the church, for whose coming he was seeking.(Staples 409)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>This sounds promising \u2013 if we can find the letter of Richard Scott, we should find our quotation from Roger Williams. Three editions of George Fox\u2019s <em>A New England Fire-Brand Quenched<\/em> were published in 1678 and 1679, all of which contain a letter of Richard Scott. (If you have access to the Early English Books Online database, facsimiles are <a href=\"http:\/\/gateway.proquest.com\/openurl?ctx_ver=Z39.88-2003&amp;res_id=xri:eebo&amp;rft_id=xri:eebo:image:54753:258\">here <\/a>, <a href=\"http:\/\/gateway.proquest.com\/openurl?ctx_ver=Z39.88-2003&amp;res_id=xri:eebo&amp;rft_id=xri:eebo:image:31869:130\">here<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/gateway.proquest.com\/openurl?ctx_ver=Z39.88-2003&amp;res_id=xri:eebo&amp;rft_id=xri:eebo:image:108573:257\">here<\/a>.) The letter begins<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u00a0Concerning the Conversation and Carriage of this Man Roger Williams, I have been his Neighbour these 38. years: I have only been Absent in the time of the Wars with the Indians, till this present \u2014 I walked with him in the Baptists Way about 3 or 4 Months, but in that short time of his Standing I discerned, that he must have the Ordering of all their Affairs, or else there would be no Quiet Agreement amongst them. In which time he brake off from his Society, and declared at large the Ground and Reasons of it: That their Baptism could not be right, because It was not Administred by an Apostle. After that he set upon a Way of Seeking (with two or three of them, that had dissented with him) by way of Preaching and Praying; and there he continued a year or two, till Two of the Three left him.<\/p>\n<p>That which took most with him, and was his Life, was, To get Honor amongst Men, especially amongst the Great Ones&#8230;<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Scott\u2019s letter does state that Roger Williams had left the Baptists and become a Seeker \u2013 but the quotation we are seeking is nowhere to be found. What has gone wrong?<\/p>\n<p>The genesis of this particular quotation involves a cascade of errors involving at least three people over four decades. I believe the process worked like this: In 1843, William Staples wanted to show that Roger Williams had become a Seeker only after leaving Massachusetts in 1636, and so he referred, accurately, to Scott\u2019s letter. In order to explain Seeker beliefs, Staples provided a quick summary of what Roger Williams <em>must have believed<\/em> in order for a contemporary to refer to him as a seeker. Unfortunately, Staples did not clearly distinguish between his explanation, Roger Williams\u2019s own statements, and Richard Scott\u2019s report made decades after the events Scott describes. William Staples is the unwitting primary author of what has become among Mormons the most famous and oft-quoted statement of Roger Williams.<\/p>\n<p>William Cullen Bryant was not the first to start moving Staples\u2019s words into Williams\u2019s mouth. An unsigned review of two biographies of Roger Williams in <em>The Christian Observatory<\/em> 1 (1847: 188) <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=3LDSAAAAMAAJ&amp;vq=he%20was%20seeking&amp;pg=PA188#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false\">places the statement in quotation marks<\/a> without attributing it to Staples, just as Bryant would do in 1872. But it was <em>Picturesque America<\/em> rather than <em>The Christian Observatory <\/em>that was the path for the quotation\u2019s entry into Mormon discourse.<\/p>\n<p>Around 1882, John H. Morgan\u2019s first missionary tract for the Southern States Mission, <em>Doctrines of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints: Its Faith and Teachings<\/em>, discovered the quotation and made it known to Mormon readers. Morgan seems to have noticed the incongruity of Williams seeming to speak about himself in the third person, as this version, while citing <em>Picturesque America<\/em>, improves upon the quotation by making it a first-person statement in the present tense, rather than a third-person, past-tense statement. Note the discrepancies in bold below:<\/p>\n<table width=\"578\" border=\"1\" cellspacing=\"0\" cellpadding=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"319\">\n<p align=\"center\"><strong>Bryant, <em>Picturesque American<\/em> [1872]<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"319\">\n<p align=\"center\"><strong>Morgan, \u00a0<em>Doctrines of the Church<\/em> [ca. 1880]<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"319\">[T]here is \u201cno regularly-constituted Church on earth, nor any person authorized to administer any Church ordinance; nor could there be, until new apostles were sent by the great Head of the Church, for whose coming he was seeking.\u201d<\/td>\n<td valign=\"top\" width=\"319\">There is no regularly constituted church <strong>of Christ<\/strong> on earth, nor any person <strong>qualified<\/strong> to administer any <strong>c<\/strong>hurch ordinance<strong>s<\/strong>; nor <strong>can<\/strong> there be until new apostles <strong>are<\/strong> sent by the <strong>G<\/strong>reat Head of the Church for whose coming <strong>I am<\/strong> seeking.(Morgan, as cited in Rich 303)<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>Already in 1882, Matthias Cowley <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=NtURAAAAYAAJ&amp;vq=i%20am%20seeking&amp;pg=PA240#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false\">excerpted <\/a>the quotation, now attributed directly to Williams, in a short article for the MIA <em>Contributor<\/em>, and it was soon found in Mormon literature by <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=6_zQAAAAMAAJ&amp;pg=PA205#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false\">B.H. Roberts<\/a> and many others.(Cowley 240; Roberts 205)<\/p>\n<p>The quotation of Staples-as-Williams continues to be repeated by Mormon scholars and church leaders in its particularly Mormon form, although someone should have noticed that the quotation was untraceable, and that the language doesn\u2019t belong to the seventeenth century. And in fact, at some point, someone must have realized that something was amiss and made an effort to find the original quotation. A 2006 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lds.org\/general-conference\/2006\/04\/the-restoration-of-all-things?lang=eng\">conference address<\/a> by James E. Faust, for example, gives the quotation in Bryant\u2019s formulation and accurately treats it as a statement about Williams. Jeffrey Holland\u2019s 2004 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.lds.org\/general-conference\/2004\/10\/prophets-seers-and-revelators?lang=eng\">conference address<\/a> \u201cProphets, Seers, and Revelators\u201d cites\u2014correctly, although requiring a great deal of editing\u2014a different statement made by Cotton Mather, one of Williams\u2019s bitter opponents, about Roger Williams in an 1853 edition of Mather\u2019s religious history, <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=f0Y5s7bsqDQC&amp;pg=PA498#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false\"><em>Magnalia Christi Americana<\/em><\/a>. (Curiously, Robert Millet cites this address of Holland\u2019s in reference to the LDS version of the Staples-as-Williams quotation in his 2010 book <a href=\"http:\/\/books.google.com\/books?id=bV4RUW6Unn4C&amp;lpg=PA121&amp;vq=i%20am%20seeking&amp;pg=PA121#v=onepage&amp;q&amp;f=false\"><em>By What Authority?<\/em><\/a> [Millet 121 n. 33])<\/p>\n<p>To sum up, it would be best not to treat the passage in question as a <a href=\"http:\/\/en.wikiquote.org\/wiki\/Roger_Williams_(theologian)#Disputed\">quotation <\/a>made by Roger Williams, and to cite William Staples rather than Willam Cullen Bryant as the source when using it as a statement about Williams.<\/p>\n<p align=\"center\">\u00a0* * *<\/p>\n<p>Does this mean that another faith-promoting rumor bites the dust? Not so fast. It\u2019s important to recognize that at no point did anyone misrepresent beliefs that Roger Williams held during his lifetime. As W. Clark Gilpin writes,<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>\u00a0In this manner, Williams strongly contrasted the church of his own day, a church scattered in the wilderness, with Christianity in its authentic form. He believed that the glorious church of the latter days would bring the godly out of the wilderness by repristinating the doctrine, discipline, and spiritual authority of ancient, apostolic Christianity. This primitivism constituted a characteristic emphasis of his piety; the goal of God\u2019s providential plan for his church was the precise restoration of its original pattern, and Williams now awaited the apostles whose preaching would bring that plan to realization.(Gilpin 59)<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>Gilpin documents this and similar statements about Williams with numerous references to Williams\u2019s own writings. One thing that allowed the misquoted quotation to stay in circulation so long is that it does accurately reflect what Williams believed, even if Williams never conveniently put those beliefs together in a single memorable sentence.<\/p>\n<p>The genesis of the Staples-as-Williams quotation is also significant because it illustrates how faith-promoting stories are generated. Everyone in the chain of transmission, from Staples to Bryant to Morgan, reproduced the quotation in good faith and according to the best of his abilities using the best sources available to him. Staples merely added a helpful sentence to explain what Williams, as a Seeker, must have believed. Bryant put into quotation marks material that he was quoting from Staples. And Morgan updated the language to reflect what he thought the original first-person quotation must have been. We are not smarter than Staples or Bryant or Morgan. Like them, we make use of the best sources we can find, but we have been blessed to come forth in the day of Google Books and HathiTrust.<\/p>\n<p>When we come across a faith-promoting text that seems hardly credible, it\u2019s tempting to cry \u201cforgery!\u201d and assume that some conscious dishonesty has been at work. Undoubtedly that sometimes does happen, but not nearly as often as we suspect. We don\u2019t have to assume a conniving CES instructor or a scheming missionary in order to account for a textual intervention. What at first seems like a wild invention would often be revealed as the product of a series of gradual improvements made in good faith if only so much of the textual record had not been lost.<\/p>\n<p>The generation of a quote by Roger Williams does not reflect some particularly Mormon flaw. Extracting, explanatory expansion, media transfer, and exposure to linguistic and historical changes create gaps that people fill with meaning. The things that created the quotation are universal processes that affect every human act of textual production.<\/p>\n<p>One of the problems with pseudoquotations, of course, is that they too easily become roadblocks that prevent deeper engagement with authentic texts: Why bother reading the long polemical writings of Roger Williams when it\u2019s quicker and easier to repeat a familiar sentence? But excessive skepticism is equally pernicious, because it can prevent us from accepting the possibility that someone who lived nearly four centuries ago had some things to say that resonate with us today in a particularly Mormon way. But Roger Williams and other Seekers really are our spiritual ancestors, and we should be reading their authentic works and grappling with them in their complexity.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: center;\">Sources<\/p>\n<p>Bryant, William Cullen. <em>Picturesque America<\/em>. New York: Appleton, 1872.<\/p>\n<p>Cowley, Matthias F. \u201cApostacy.\u201d <em>The Contributor<\/em> 3 (1882): 239\u201343.<\/p>\n<p>Gilpin, W. Clark. <em>The Millenarian Piety of Roger Williams<\/em>. Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1979.<\/p>\n<p>M\u2019Clure, Alexander Wilson, ed. \u201cLives of Roger Williams.\u201d <em>The Christian Observatory<\/em> 1 (1847): 180\u201389.<\/p>\n<p>Millet, Robert L. <em>By What Authority?: The Vital Question of Religious Authority in Christianity<\/em>. Mercer University Press, 2010.<\/p>\n<p>Morgan, John. <em>Doctrines of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints: Its Faith and Teachings<\/em>. Salt Lake City: Deseret News Company, 1882.<\/p>\n<p>Rich, Ben. E. <em>Scrap Book of Mormon Literature<\/em>. Vol. 1. 2 vols. [S.l.]: B. E. Rich, 1910.<\/p>\n<p>Roberts, Brigham Henry. <em>Outlines of Ecclesiastical History<\/em>. Salt Lake City: George Q. Cannon and Sons, 1895.<\/p>\n<p>Staples, William R. <em>Annals of the Town of Providence, from Its First Settlement, to the Organization of the City Government, in June, 1832<\/em>.\u00a0Rhode Island Historical Society Collections 5. Providence: Knowles and Vose, 1843.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In Ensign articles and in General Conference addresses, it is not unusual to find appeals to people before 1830 who thought that Christianity had slipped into general apostasy. 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