{"id":19158,"date":"2012-02-27T15:59:56","date_gmt":"2012-02-27T20:59:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/?p=19158"},"modified":"2012-02-27T09:19:07","modified_gmt":"2012-02-27T14:19:07","slug":"mormon-intellectuals-part-iii","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2012\/02\/mormon-intellectuals-part-iii\/","title":{"rendered":"Mormon Intellectuals Part III: My Postscript"},"content":{"rendered":"<p style=\"text-align: left;\" align=\"center\">(See <a style=\"text-align: -webkit-auto;\" href=\"http:\/\/www.patheos.com\/Resources\/Additional-Resources\/Responsibility-of-Mormon-Intellectuals-James-Faulconer-01-19-2012.html\">here<\/a><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"text-align: -webkit-auto;\"> for Jim\u2019s original post, <\/span><a style=\"text-align: -webkit-auto;\" href=\"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2012\/02\/mormon-intellectuals-a-response-to-jim-faulconer\/\">here<\/a><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"text-align: -webkit-auto;\"> for part I, and <\/span><a style=\"text-align: -webkit-auto;\" href=\"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2012\/02\/mormon-intellectuals-part-ii-jims-comments\/\">here<\/a><span class=\"Apple-style-span\" style=\"text-align: -webkit-auto;\"> for part II)<\/span><\/p>\n<p>\u00a0In my original response to Jim, I wrote the following:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>While I\u2019ve tried to be fair and accurate, it may be that I\u2019m misreading [Toscano or Faulconer], that I\u2019m mistaken in my analysis of their position. Even if that turns out to be the case, I believe that explicitly laying out this Toscano-Faulconer spectrum is a very useful tool, one that helps us all to orient ourselves to the various possibilities that exist for intellectuals, and allows me to argue in favor of a third position.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>In the wake of Jim\u2019s comments it seems clear that I did misunderstand some of what he had to say, and that we\u2019re closer together than I originally thought \u2013 if nothing else, I\u2019m happy to help clarify and advertise his position.<\/p>\n<p>I still think there\u2019s a difference between what we\u2019re advocating (as do a number of the commenters) \u2013 but it\u2019s hard to get at that difference, and I&#8217;ll be happy if it turns out I&#8217;m wrong. Nevertheless, I\u2019m going to take one more stab at it before ending.<\/p>\n<p>It seems to me that the crux of the matter is in how we understand <em>useless<\/em> activities and <em>agendas<\/em>. They&#8217;re obviously related, but\u00a0I\u2019ll start with the notion of useless. Jim notes that \u201ca painting by a Renaissance master is good in itself. But it can also be useful for illustrations, book covers, etc. But the thing in question isn\u2019t good because of its further usefulness, even if it has that usefulness.\u201d It seems to me that what\u2019s important for Faulconer is that intellectuals in the church devote themselves to producing the best \u201cworks of art\u201d they can within their respective areas of expertise. Additionally, they might \u201coffer\u201d these works as \u201cgifts\u201d to (i.e., make them available for use by) the church, though it\u2019s important to offer them freely and not \u201c<em>in order to<\/em>\u00a0bring about some effect.\u201d <em>Whether<\/em>\u00a0the gifts are used and <em>in what way<\/em>\u00a0is up to church authorities.<\/p>\n<p>This still strikes me as conceptually vague and overly simplistic. Jim\u2019s point seems tailored to examples like literal works of art, and may even work for his example of the Mormon Theology Seminar (so long as it performs only <em>descriptive <\/em>and <em>speculative <\/em>but not <em>normative <\/em>theology \u2013 though I have my doubts as to the practical integrity of those distinctions). It&#8217;s less helpful, however, when we muddy the waters with issues specific to intellectuals. Here are some difficulties involved:<\/p>\n<ol>\n<li>Things get tricky when the content involved is <em>not <\/em>of our own making, but some content specific to the domain of the church. This seems to be the common state of affairs with regard to the work of intellectuals (though it can still be the case for artists, such as Antoni Guadi\u2019s designing and working to build the Sagrada Familia in Spain). Whether it\u2019s Grant Hardy reformatting the Book of Mormon, Nate Oman&#8217;s legal analysis of 19<sup>th<\/sup> century polygamy cases, or Joanna Brooks analyzing gender norms within the contemporary church, lots of intellectuals \u2013 particularly those working in the nascent field of Mormon studies \u2013 are working specifically with materials that fall within the category of things that &#8220;belong&#8221; to the church. They do so as part of their professional work.<\/li>\n<li>Not always, but often our works have undeniable political meaning \u2013 whether or not we realize it. My primary, personal intention and motivation might be entirely purist \u2013 to merely produce the best [fill in the blank] that I can. I might also know, however, that the primary impact of my [fill in the blank] \u2013 regardless of my intention \u2013 will not be a bland contribution to the general intellectual collection, but rather a political or social landmine. Even if it\u2019s not a landmine, our intellectual works contribute to public and political discourse and change the normative landscape. This is particularly true the higher the caliber of the work produced (e.g., no matter how purist Blake&#8217;s intentions, if he produces a higher caliber &#8211; more consistent, more eloquent, taking into account a broader swath of scriptural &amp; prophetic statements, etc. &#8211; explication of God&#8217;s love than Elder Nelson, it&#8217;s going to have a significant, non-intrinsic impact; this is true whether or not he even references Elder Nelson&#8217;s comments). This is why I\u2019m convinced that we never do merely descriptive or speculative theology.<a title=\"\" href=\"#_ftn1\">[1]<\/a><\/li>\n<li>On a related note, and perhaps most importantly, church authorities <em>simply don&#8217;t have a monopoly<\/em>\u00a0on what the Church does and does not adopt or use. They might have a legal or divinely sanctioned right to oversee and regulate how the Church is structured and what it makes official use of, but it certainly doesn&#8217;t have practical control. (Nor do I think would it want to, though that&#8217;s a personal opinion and a tangent for another post.) Pres. Hinckley was fond of saying &#8220;The Church is no bigger than a ward.&#8221; I think much of the impact of intellectuals is going to be local and through unofficial networks (which may have cumulative impact on the overall church). One very significant example is the reality of an intellectual sphere of discourse that exists in the Church. The sort of influence an intellectual has in local and unofficial contexts is almost entirely orthogonal to official opinions and actions of Church authorities. I think we get distracted by the &#8220;big ticket&#8221; examples like policies on human sexuality; but the real impact of intellectuals and any potential gifts will mostly concern &#8220;smaller&#8221; items.<\/li>\n<li>Lots of times our intellectual work is multiply useful and very few of us are purists in our intent for that work. As much as I love philosophy and teaching, I\u2019m more Aristotelian on that end. I have every intention of making money and providing for my family. I also think quite seriously on the various benefits to society that I believe this profession can bring about. And I have every intention of utilizing my future position at a university to promote humanitarian ends. I even take mild pleasure out of certain relatives\u2019 befuddlement over my career choice. I\u2019m not sure why I ought to be purist when my intellectual pursuits overlap with some area of the church. Instead we can be (and in reality, usually are) pluralists when it comes to how we value our gifts. As I said in the comments, I don&#8217;t think an intrinsic valuation of my garden means I can&#8217;t also plan to make use of the vegetables I grow.<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n<p>Despite these difficulties for making or appreciating our intellectual endeavors as merely \u201cuseless,\u201d it might nevertheless be a good rule of thumb. At least for certain of our endeavors \u2013 and perhaps the Mormon Theology Seminar is a good example. However, what about the difficulty involved when we see and are motivated in our work by a problem in the church (even if it\u2019s only the problem that a significant number of folks see it as problematic, when in reality it\u2019s not)? What if the \u201cproblem\u201d is one specific to our area of expertise? This brings us to the related issue of <em>agendas<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>There is no domain of expertise for \u201cchurch reform and improvement\u201d and consequently no body of or positions for experts. Even General Authorities can\u2019t claim expertise here, which is why they rely on revelation. The issue of reform is complicated, however, since a) God seems content to let us make collective mistakes; b) revelation usually only comes as sought; c) lots of changes in the church don\u2019t require official revelation, they merely require administrative or personal action; d) some problems are largely a matter of rhetoric &#8211; literally the kind of language we use when talking; e) our history is littered with examples of significant changes that come in response to the \u201canxious engagement\u201d of good members; f) sometimes those good members were \u201canxiously engaged\u201d by drawing upon their professional expertise. In short, it seems that explicit agenda&#8217;s for change are sometimes both needed and good.<\/p>\n<p>Jim &amp; I clearly agree that in the wake of our gift, we need to be humble and recognize that church authorities are free to make use of our gifts as they see fit &#8211; and that intellectuals ought not get bent out of shape if our gifts are rejected. As Blake put it, &#8221;\u00a0the most any non-apostle can (and ought to) hope for in the Church is to give the fruits of one\u2019s careful thoughts and labors as a sheer gift and allow others to freely choose whether to accept the gift. . . . we cannot make demands on the Church or its members to fit our Procustean bed.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>It\u2019s hard to tell if or exactly how Jim and I might be in disagreement here. In the end, I\u2019m going to just repeat my position \u2013 which seems to be at least slightly out of sync with Jim. I\u2019m not allergic to attempts at being useful or having an agenda \u2013 that is, to undertaking some intellectual endeavor expressly for a reason beyond merely producing the intellectual product (i.e., producing some work in the hopes that it will change X, Y, or Z in the church). Having some specific agenda \u2013 the desire to bring about some specific result on account of one\u2019s work \u2013 doesn\u2019t strike me as inherently pernicious within the context of the church. Another way of repeating myself is that I&#8217;m both in favor of value pluralism and against the compartmentalization of our intellectual talents. I think that as intellectuals, so long as we endeavor to produce the best works we can, and so long as our primary motivation is love (which means that the manner in which we serve will be one of <em>service<\/em>), we\u2019ll be on firm footing. Mind service is both needed and useful.<\/p>\n<p>In the end, Jim Faulconer has made me a better philosopher, a better human, and certainly a better Mormon. This has probably come about indirectly, largely through his dedicated efforts to simply be a good philosopher and teacher. But I don\u2019t mind if he also had an explicit agenda to benefit <em>me<\/em>. Nor would it strike me as inappropriate if Jim had a similar agenda vis-\u00e0-vis the church.<\/p>\n<div><br clear=\"all\" \/><\/p>\n<hr align=\"left\" size=\"1\" width=\"33%\" \/>\n<div>\n<p><a title=\"\" href=\"#_ftnref\">[1]<\/a> This doesn\u2019t mean that there can\u2019t be better and worse ways of doing theology within a Mormon context \u2013 and part of the criterion might still be how explicit our attempts are to normatively alter things.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>(See here for Jim\u2019s original post, here for part I, and here for part II) \u00a0In my original response to Jim, I wrote the following: While I\u2019ve tried to be fair and accurate, it may be that I\u2019m misreading [Toscano or Faulconer], that I\u2019m mistaken in my analysis of their position. Even if that turns out to be the case, I believe that explicitly laying out this Toscano-Faulconer spectrum is a very useful tool, one that helps us all to orient ourselves to the various possibilities that exist for intellectuals, and allows me to argue in favor of a third position. In the wake of Jim\u2019s comments it seems clear that I did misunderstand some of what he had to say, and that we\u2019re closer together than I originally thought \u2013 if nothing else, I\u2019m happy to help clarify and advertise his position. I still think there\u2019s a difference between what we\u2019re advocating (as do a number of the commenters) \u2013 but it\u2019s hard to get at that difference, and I&#8217;ll be happy if it turns out I&#8217;m wrong. Nevertheless, I\u2019m going to take one more stab at it before ending. It seems to me that the crux of the [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":122,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-19158","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-corn"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19158","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/122"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=19158"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19158\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":19193,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/19158\/revisions\/19193"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=19158"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=19158"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=19158"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}