{"id":1720,"date":"2004-12-08T13:05:03","date_gmt":"2004-12-08T18:05:03","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=1720"},"modified":"2004-12-08T13:17:24","modified_gmt":"2004-12-08T18:17:24","slug":"swords-and-clubs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2004\/12\/swords-and-clubs\/","title":{"rendered":"Swords and Clubs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Drawing on some existing discussion, Jeff Lindsay <a href=\"http:\/\/mormanity.blogspot.com\/2004\/11\/swords-and-book-of-mormon.html\">suggests that the &#8220;swords&#8221; of the Book of Mormon may have actually been spiked wooden war clubs<\/a>.   This idea seems problematic for several reasons:<!--more--><\/p>\n<p>First, the Nephites _had_ at least some old-world style swords.  They had <a href=\"http:\/\/scriptures.lds.org\/1_ne\/4\/9#9\">the sword of Laban<\/a>.  And they <a href=\"http:\/\/scriptures.lds.org\/2_ne\/5\/14#14\">made a number of others like it<\/a>.  They retained this technology up through and <a href=\"http:\/\/scriptures.lds.org\/w_of_m\/1\/13#13\">including to King Benjamin&#8217;s day<\/a>.<br \/>\nSecond, Nephite swords as described did a number of things that war clubs would have difficulty doing.  The <a href=\"http:\/\/scriptures.lds.org\/alma\/44\/12#12\">break by the hilt, and they can cleanly scalp a person while leaving him still alive<\/a>.  They <a href=\"http:\/\/scriptures.lds.org\/hel\/1\/23#23\">&#8220;cut.&#8221;<\/a>  They <a href=\"http:\/\/scriptures.lds.org\/alma\/17\/37#37\">smite off arms<\/a>.  They are <a href=\"http:\/\/scriptures.lds.org\/mosiah\/19\/4#4\">drawn<\/a>.<br \/>\nThird, Jaredite swords were made of steel and <a href=\"http:\/\/scriptures.lds.org\/mosiah\/8\/11#11\">had hilts and blades<\/a>.  They <a href=\"http:\/\/scriptures.lds.org\/ether\/15\/30#30\">behead<\/a>.   The Nephites had these swords, and would certainly have tried to copy them.<\/p>\n<p>The bottom line:  The war-club theory sounds like an interesting idea, but seems inconsistent with the Book of Mormon text we now have.<\/p>\n<p>EDIT:  Just to be entirely clear about my own (lack of) expertise here, my knowledge of swords, clubs, and so forth is mostly based on watching The Lord of the Rings a few times.  I&#8217;ll gladly defer to any actual experts, who may be able to better explain this idea which (for now) doesn&#8217;t make it past my own &#8220;smell test.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Drawing on some existing discussion, Jeff Lindsay suggests that the &#8220;swords&#8221; of the Book of Mormon may have actually been spiked wooden war clubs. This idea seems problematic for several reasons:<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1720","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-corn"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1720","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1720"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1720\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1720"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1720"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1720"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}