{"id":16013,"date":"2011-06-21T19:07:43","date_gmt":"2011-06-22T00:07:43","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/?p=16013"},"modified":"2011-06-21T19:07:43","modified_gmt":"2011-06-22T00:07:43","slug":"nt-sunday-school-lesson-24-john-16-17","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2011\/06\/nt-sunday-school-lesson-24-john-16-17\/","title":{"rendered":"NT Sunday School Lesson 24: John 16-17"},"content":{"rendered":"

\"Ms\"Remember: though these may be useful in helping a person to prepare a Sunday School lesson, they are intended primarily to help one study<\/em> and prepare for taking part in Sunday School. That’s why you’ll find questions with no answers; they are study questions.<\/p>\n

John 16<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n

Verses 1-3<\/a>: In verse 1 Jesus tells the disciples that he taught them what he did in chapter 15<\/a> so that they would not be \u201coffended.\u201d A more literal translation might be \u201ccaused to stumble,\u201d\u201cscandalized.\u201d In Matthew 26:31<\/a> Jesus tells the disciples that they will be offended or scandalized by him that night. What particular things were the disciples facing that might make them stumble? What things in our lives are like those things? How would the particular teachings of the previous chapter, chapter 15<\/a>, strengthen them against those difficulties?<\/p>\n

How long was it before some people began to think that persecuting Christians was a service to God (verse 2<\/a>)? Are we ever guilty of that kind of thinking? For example, do we ever justify our mistreatment of another person because we believe him to be a sinner? Are there ways in which we do so subtly? Do we have ways of doing so as a society, even if not as individuals?<\/p>\n

What does verse 3<\/a> tell us about those who persecute us in some way? What does that suggest about us when we act that way? Early Christianity experienced persecution. Mormons experienced persecution for about the first 100 years of our existence. The early Church, though, didn\u2019t learn from their experience, for they then persecuted Jews, Muslims, and those whom they thought to be heretical. Have we<\/em> learned from our experience?<\/p>\n

Verses 4-6<\/a>: Did Jesus think the disciples would understand this sermon when he gave it? Does the fact that he gave them his teachings to return to and remember later tell us anything about the way we learn? about how we should study? In verse 5<\/a> Jesus says that none of them ask where he is going. What about John 13:36<\/a> and 14:5<\/a>? Did they not understand what they were asking? Do the disciples understand what is about to happen? If not, why are they sorrowing?<\/p>\n

Verses 7-11<\/a>: In verse 7<\/a> Jesus doesn\u2019t say \u201cI have to leave you in order to work the Atonement,\u201d though that is how we would describe what he is going to do. Instead, he says \u201cI have to leave you so that you can have the Comforter.\u201d Explain that. (The footnote in the LDS edition may be helpful.)<\/p>\n

Recall from the questions for lesson 23<\/a> that another translation of the Greek word translated \u201ccomforter\u201d is \u201cadvocate\u201d or \u201cdefender.\u201d The idea of the Holy Ghost as our advocate is important to the metaphor that Christ uses in verse 8<\/a>: though the world will judge you (verses 2-3<\/a>), the Holy Ghost will defend you and convict the world. The word translated \u201creprove\u201d in verse 8<\/a> could also be translated \u201cconvict\u201d or \u201cexpose.\u201d The King James translation, \u201creprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment,\u201d is somewhat misleading for modern readers. For us, it sounds as if the Advocate will convict the world of being righteous and having judgment. The phrase might be better translated \u201cconvict the world with regard to sin, and with regard to righteousness, and with regard to judgment.\u201d What evidence allows the Comforter to convict the world of sin? What evidence is relevant to deciding the world\u2019s righteousness (verse 10<\/a>)? Perhaps a better translation than \u201crighteousness\u201d would be \u201cjustice.\u201d A better translation than \u201cjudged\u201d in verse 11<\/a> is \u201ccondemned.\u201d Who is the prince of this world and how is he condemned by the Comforter? What do these verses tell us about our need for the Holy Ghost?<\/p>\n

Verses 12-15<\/a>: Why couldn\u2019t the disciples bear Jesus\u2019 teachings at that time? Why can the Holy Ghost teach them things that he cannot? Why is \u201cSpirit of Truth\u201d an apt name for the Holy Ghost in this sermon? What does Jesus mean when he says that the Spirit of Truth will not speak of himself (verse 13<\/a>)? What \u201cthings to come\u201d does the Comforter reveal? What thing that is to come has Jesus announced in his ministry? How does the Holy Ghost glorify the Savior? What does it mean to say that he does? What do verses 14-15<\/a> tell us the Comforter will reveal?<\/p>\n

Verses 16-22<\/a>: The disciples ask, \u201cWhat does he mean that we will not see him in a little while and then in a little while we will?\u201d Does the story of the woman in childbirth answer the disciples\u2019 question? If so, how? If not, what question does it answer? Notice that a woman in travail\u2014in labor\u2014is a common Old Testament metaphor for deep anguish.<\/p>\n

Verses 23-27<\/a>: When the disciples see Christ again, why will they have no questions? Of what are their questions a sign?<\/p>\n

Asking in Jesus\u2019 name and receiving what we ask for has been an important theme of this sermon. (See John 14:13<\/a> and 15:7<\/a>, and the repetition of the teaching in 3 Nephi 18:20<\/a>.) Why is that such an important teaching? Why is it important to the disciples at this point in their spiritual development? What does it mean to us?<\/p>\n

What is the promise of verse 25<\/a>?<\/p>\n

John 17<\/em><\/a><\/p>\n

Many Christians refer to this chapter as \u201cThe Great High Priestly Prayer.\u201d Some call it \u201cThe Prayer of Consecration.\u201d Why do you think they do use those names for it? Latter-day Saints usually call this prayer \u201cThe Great Intercessory Prayer.\u201d Why? Are the non-LDS and the LDS names for the prayer related?<\/p>\n

Though we know that Jesus prayed often, we know the content of only a few of his prayers. Why did John believe it was important to tell us what Jesus said in this prayer? How does the form of this prayer fit the form of the Lord\u2019s Prayer (Matthew 6:9-13<\/a>; Luke 11:2-4<\/a>; and 3 Nephi 13:9-13<\/a>)? If it doesn\u2019t, how do you explain the difference?<\/p>\n

Verses 1-8<\/a>: Jesus has often talked about glorifying the Father. (See, for example, John 1:18<\/a>; 2:11<\/a>; 9:3<\/a>; and 15:15<\/a>.) What do you think he means by the word \u201cglorify\u201d? How will the Father glorify the Son?<\/p>\n

Why does Jesus say that he will give eternal life to those whom the Father has given him<\/em> (verse 2<\/a>)? Whom has the Father given him? How has he given them to Jesus? What does it mean to belong to him, to be his possession?<\/p>\n

Jesus defines what he means by \u201ceternal life\u201d in verse 3<\/a>. Does that help answer the last question? What kind of knowledge is Jesus talking about in verse 3<\/a>?<\/p>\n

Compare Genesis 3:22<\/a> and Mosiah 4:12<\/a>. Do they suggest anything about how we should understand the word \u201cknow\u201d in scripture? Does Mosiah 4:12<\/a> help us understand the glorification of the Father and the Son that Jesus speaks of in verses 1<\/a> and 4-5<\/a>?<\/p>\n

Does verse 6<\/a> explain how Jesus has glorified the Father? What does he mean when he says \u201cI have manifested [or \u201crevealed\u201d] thy name unto the men [literally \u201cpersons\u201d]\u201d? How has he revealed the name of the Father? Why is the Father\u2019s name so important? What might it stand for?<\/p>\n

What does it mean that those whom the Father gave to the Son were given \u201cout of this world\u201d (verse 6<\/a>)? How have they kept the Father\u2019s word? What is the Father\u2019s word?<\/p>\n

Does verse 7<\/a> help us us explain what it means to know the Father (verse 3<\/a>)? what it means that Jesus has manifested the Father\u2019s name (verse 6<\/a>)?<\/p>\n

Verses 9-10<\/a>: If God loves the world (John 3:16<\/a>), why doesn\u2019t Jesus pray for the world? Does \u201cworld\u201d mean the same thing in each case? If not, explain the different meanings.<\/p>\n

Why is it important that Jesus speak of the disciples as the common property of him and the Father?<\/p>\n

Verses 11-13<\/a>: Here we find the request of Jesus\u2019 prayer. He prays \u201cNow that I am leaving them in the world and coming to thee, keep those you\u2019ve given me in your name so that they can be one in the same way that we are one.\u201d Can you think of synonyms for \u201ckeep\u201d that help you understand this better? Why is the unity of the disciples so important now that the Savior is leaving them? How were they kept up to this point (verse 12<\/a>)? (The word translated \u201clost\u201d could also be translated \u201cdied.\u201d)<\/p>\n

Verses 14-16<\/a>: Why do the disciples need the Father\u2019s protection? What protection has been promised? (See John 16:7-8<\/a> as well as 15:7<\/a> and 16<\/a>.) Why isn\u2019t the Lord asking that the disciples be taken out of the world (verse 15<\/a>)? If the disciples are not of this world (verse 16<\/a>), why leave them behind when he knows that the world hates them and will persecute them (John 15:18-21<\/a> and 17:14<\/a>)? Does this tell us anything about our own experience?<\/p>\n

Verses 17-19<\/a>: To sanctify something is to make it holy. How does the Father make the Lord\u2019s disciples holy? What does it mean to say that he does so \u201cthrough thy truth\u201d? Jesus sent the disciples into the world, just as the Father sent Jesus into the world. Does that suggest that each has a similar mission? If so, what might it be? How does Jesus sanctify himself? What does it mean that he does it \u201cfor their sakes\u201d? How does his sanctification make their sanctification possible?<\/p>\n

Verses 20-23<\/a>: For whom has Jesus been praying up to this point (verse 20<\/a>)? Why has he focused on praying for them? Now whom does he pray for? Does he prayer for something different now?<\/p>\n

What does the unity of believers show the world (verse 21<\/a>)? Why is that important? Jesus gives a standard for the unity of the saints: \u201cthat they may be one, even as we are one\u201d (verse 22<\/a>). How are the Father and the Son one? How can we imitate that unity in the Church? Are there destructive ways in which we might merely pretend to imitate that unity? How do we know the difference between real unity and false unity?<\/p>\n

The word translated \u201cperfect\u201d (verse 23<\/a>) can also be translated \u201ccomplete.\u201d But it means literally \u201cto fulfill the purpose\u201d; that which fulfills its purpose is perfect. Why is unity needed for perfection, for fulfilling our purpose?<\/p>\n

Verses 24-26<\/a>: When Jesus prays \u201cthat they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am\u201d what is he asking for? Is he asking for something that only occurs at a future time or for something that can occur now?<\/p>\n

What does verse 25<\/a> tell us about our relation to the Father? Why might Jesus use the title \u201cJust Father\u201d here rather than another title? Does this help explain Doctrine and Covenants 46:13-14<\/a>?<\/p>\n

What promise does the Lord make when he says \u201cI have declared unto them thy name, and will declare it<\/em>\u201d? What does it mean to declare the name of the Father? How does doing so put the Father\u2019s love for the Savior in us? Why does Jesus say that his declaration of the Father\u2019s name will cause \u201cthat the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them\u201d rather than \u201cthat thy love may be in them\u201d?<\/p>\n

What is Jesus talking about when he speaks of being in<\/em> those whom the Father has given him (verse 26<\/a>)?<\/p>\n

Please respond to this post at Feast upon the Word<\/a>.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

Remember: though these may be useful in helping a person to prepare a Sunday School lesson, they are intended primarily to help one study and prepare for taking part in Sunday School. That’s why you’ll find questions with no answers; they are study questions. John 16 Verses 1-3: In verse 1 Jesus tells the disciples that he taught them what he did in chapter 15 so that they would not be \u201coffended.\u201d A more literal translation might be \u201ccaused to stumble,\u201d\u201cscandalized.\u201d In Matthew 26:31 Jesus tells the disciples that they will be offended or scandalized by him that night. What particular things were the disciples facing that might make them stumble? What things in our lives are like those things? How would the particular teachings of the previous chapter, chapter 15, strengthen them against those difficulties? How long was it before some people began to think that persecuting Christians was a service to God (verse 2)? Are we ever guilty of that kind of thinking? For example, do we ever justify our mistreatment of another person because we believe him to be a sinner? Are there ways in which we do so subtly? Do we have ways of doing so […]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":13,"featured_media":16015,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[1671],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-16013","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-sunday-school-lesson-new-testament"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2011\/06\/Ms3.jpg","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16013","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/13"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=16013"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16013\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":16017,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/16013\/revisions\/16017"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/16015"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=16013"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=16013"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=16013"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}