{"id":13684,"date":"2010-10-25T14:45:00","date_gmt":"2010-10-25T19:45:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/?p=13684"},"modified":"2010-10-25T14:45:00","modified_gmt":"2010-10-25T19:45:00","slug":"what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-god","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2010\/10\/what-we-talk-about-when-we-talk-about-god\/","title":{"rendered":"What we talk about when we talk about God"},"content":{"rendered":"<figure id=\"attachment_13685\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-13685\" style=\"width: 238px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-medium wp-image-13685\" title=\"Rodin_TheThinker\" src=\"http:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Rodin_TheThinker-238x300.jpg\" alt=\"photo courtesy of wikimedia commons\" width=\"238\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Rodin_TheThinker-238x300.jpg 238w, https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Rodin_TheThinker-815x1024.jpg 815w, https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Rodin_TheThinker.jpg 831w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 238px) 100vw, 238px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-13685\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">photo courtesy of wikimedia commons<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Bruce Feiler&#8217;s daughter was just five when she pitched him a question  right to the gut of religious experience:\u00a0 &#8220;Daddy, if I speak to God,  will he listen?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Feiler writes books on the Bible and God for a living, so he&#8217;d  presumably given the question some thought. Nevertheless he had no good  answer ready for his daughter. So he did what any loving parent would  do:\u00a0 answered the question with an inartful dodge, and then <a href=\"http:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2010\/10\/17\/fashion\/17ThisLife.html?_r=1&amp;scp=1&amp;sq=bruce%20feiler&amp;st=cse\">wrote about it<\/a> in the New York Times style section.<\/p>\n<p>How do we answer our children&#8217;s questions about God, he asked, when  we are ourselves doubtful, confused, or otherwise conflicted?<\/p>\n<p>Feiler solicited comments on the matter from a formerly-Catholic  agnostic playwright, a formerly-Episcopalian agnostic New Testament  scholar, and a popular Conservative rabbi in Los Angeles.\u00a0 It&#8217;s not hard  to guess the direction their responses took.\u00a0 Among the educated elite  readership of the NYT, a kind of ritualistic doubt partners with a set  of tolerant gestures as the yin and yang of the new virtue, and  self-disclosure at all times and in all things and in all places is the  great personal imperative. No surprise, then, that Feiler&#8217;s panel urged  conflicted parents to share their uncertainty with their children, even  to validate their children&#8217;s own budding doubt.\u00a0 To project an air of  certainty when one harbors internal ambiguity is hypocritical,  dishonest, and worst of all inauthentic.\u00a0\u00a0 \u201cI believe deeply in the  power of paradox and contradiction,\u201d said the formerly-Catholic agnostic  playwright.<\/p>\n<p>I do sympathize with Mr. Feiler&#8217;s dilemma, despite my snarky tone  here. I too wonder how I should respond when my children ask me a  question on which I have little clarity myself, and it happens with some  frequency.\u00a0 I&#8217;m not comfortable voicing a straight-ahead Sunday school  answer as if it represented my own conviction.\u00a0 But unlike Mr. Feiler  and friends, I&#8217;m not especially enthusiastic about the &#8220;power of paradox  and contradiction&#8221; to shape children&#8217;s moral universe.<\/p>\n<p>I suspect that paradox and contradiction&#8212;and doubt and uncertainty  and ambiguity and the whole extended family&#8212;are stimulating spiritual  states for those who otherwise enjoy a high degree of autonomy, security  and certainty in their day-to-day lives. I enjoy a fine paradox and a  bit of contradiction myself; after all, I am a part of that educated,  affluent NYT readership.\u00a0 But for children and others who live with some  degree of dependence and uncertainty, I don&#8217;t know that contradiction  offers the balm or backbone they seek.<\/p>\n<p>What I generally do in a situation like the one described is offer  some version of &#8220;Well, let&#8217;s see what the scriptures say about that.&#8221;\u00a0  That is, I try to offer an answer to the question asked, but I predicate  the authority of that answer not on my own personal conviction but on  the scriptural text.\u00a0 By turning to scripture, I avoid a situation in  which I must either hypocritically profess a certainty I don&#8217;t possess  or offer a pablum of hedging qualification. (I know, of course, that my  children will assume that I am certain that the scriptural answer  offered is true&#8212;so yes, there is still a layer of hypocrisy in my  strategy.)<\/p>\n<p>That&#8217;s not to say that I avoid all contradiction altogether. The  scriptures rarely offer any straightforward interpretive answer to any  question, no matter how basic&#8212;-therein lies much of the religious  history of the West in the last 600 years.\u00a0 So I will often point out  that the scriptures offer several approaches to a question, and in our  family scripture study I am trying to teach them a kind of elementary  exegesis, paying attention to context, voice and rhetoric. And as they  mature into teenagers and young adults, I expect that my strategy will  change somewhat.<\/p>\n<p>Is mine the best approach? To this question I heartily join Mr.  Feiler in professing uncertainty. I don&#8217;t know. Certainly there may  still come some reckoning wherein my children realize that I had my  doubts about Santa all along. If I&#8217;ve done my job well enough, I hope,  they won&#8217;t resent that, and they&#8217;ll have the moral framework and  intellectual tools to launch their own spiritual inquiry.<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;d love to learn from you, though. How do you handle those discussions?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bruce Feiler&#8217;s daughter was just five when she pitched him a question right to the gut of religious experience:\u00a0 &#8220;Daddy, if I speak to God, will he listen?&#8221; Feiler writes books on the Bible and God for a living, so he&#8217;d presumably given the question some thought. Nevertheless he had no good answer ready for his daughter. So he did what any loving parent would do:\u00a0 answered the question with an inartful dodge, and then wrote about it in the New York Times style section. How do we answer our children&#8217;s questions about God, he asked, when we are ourselves doubtful, confused, or otherwise conflicted? Feiler solicited comments on the matter from a formerly-Catholic agnostic playwright, a formerly-Episcopalian agnostic New Testament scholar, and a popular Conservative rabbi in Los Angeles.\u00a0 It&#8217;s not hard to guess the direction their responses took.\u00a0 Among the educated elite readership of the NYT, a kind of ritualistic doubt partners with a set of tolerant gestures as the yin and yang of the new virtue, and self-disclosure at all times and in all things and in all places is the great personal imperative. No surprise, then, that Feiler&#8217;s panel urged conflicted parents to share their uncertainty [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":42,"featured_media":13685,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[14,20,13],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-13684","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-parenting","category-philosophy-and-theology","category-scriptures"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/10\/Rodin_TheThinker.jpg","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13684","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/42"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=13684"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13684\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":13686,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/13684\/revisions\/13686"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/13685"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=13684"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=13684"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=13684"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}