{"id":1215,"date":"2004-08-20T12:06:29","date_gmt":"2004-08-20T18:06:29","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=1215"},"modified":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"-0001-11-30T06:00:00","slug":"betting-with-blaise","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2004\/08\/betting-with-blaise\/","title":{"rendered":"Betting with Blaise"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Clark mentioned Pascal&#8217;s wager in a comment, and that reminded me of a thought I&#8217;ve had for some time:  Pascal&#8217;s wager seems like a bad deal for Mormons.  <\/p>\n<p>In case anyone is unfamiliar with Pascal&#8217;s wager, the basic idea is that God can either exist or not.  If he does exist, then believers go to heaven.  If he doesn&#8217;t, then it really doesn&#8217;t matter whether one believes.  The smart money says to believe in God and take the x% chance of infinite happiness.  <\/p>\n<p>How does this apply to Mormonism?  Well, we have the added wrinkle of some pretty good second-best destinations.  Thus, if one&#8217;s options are to either be a believing Mormon or a believing Catholic, and the two possibilities are that either Mormonism or Catholicism is true, the resulting chart of possibilities would look like this:<br \/>\n<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=2 border=1 align=\"right\"><TBODY><TABLE BORDER=\"1\"><TR><TD>&#8212;-<\/TD><TD>Mormonism Correct<\/TD><TD>Catholicism Correct<\/TD><\/TR><TR><TD>Believing Mormon<\/TD><TD>Celestial Kingdom<\/TD><TD>Hell<\/TD><\/TR><TR><TD>Believing Catholic<\/TD><TD>Terrestrial Kingdom<\/TD><TD>Heaven<\/TD><\/TR><\/TBODY><\/TABLE><br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nThe relatively positive second-best solution of ending up in a Kingdom of glory means that Pascal&#8217;s wager will tend to work against Mormonism.  In fact, it will work against any religion with a good second-best solution.  It makes Unitarian Universalism look terrible.  Why be a UU, when you can get all of the eternal benefits of UUism&#8211; plus potential benefits of another church &#8212; by believing in another church?<\/p>\n<p>Of course, problems arise in choosing between options that do not give a second-best alternative.  How does one choose between Catholicism and Islam, or Evangelicism and Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses?  Yikes.<\/p>\n<p>In addition, we can see the moral problem here.  To perform best on the Pascal&#8217;s wager matrix, it behooves a religion to up the stakes as much as possible.  But how to up the stakes more than they already are (infinite punishment, infinite happiness)?  It can be done.<\/p>\n<p>Consider this &#8212; I&#8217;ll start a new church and call it Kaimi-ism.  You can be a Kaimi-ist, and you and your entire family will have infinite happiness.  Or you can reject Kaimi-ism for some other church, and everyone in your family will go straight to hell.  (Um, we&#8217;ll set aside for now the question of what happens if one family member is a Kaimi-ist and the others aren&#8217;t).  How&#8217;s that for a religion built to thrive on Pascal&#8217;s wager?<\/p>\n<p>Or one can consider whether an infinitely loving God is the type to &#8220;up the stakes&#8221; and inflict infinite punishment on so many people.  Personally, I like the idea of a God who has prepared pretty good second-best places for sincere believers in other faiths.  Anything else seems foreign.  So maybe I&#8217;m betting against the odds here, but I&#8217;m doing so because it&#8217;s the bet that makes sense.  I realize that the bookmakers disagree, but I&#8217;ve seen the horses, and I think that my particular bet is the best.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Clark mentioned Pascal&#8217;s wager in a comment, and that reminded me of a thought I&#8217;ve had for some time: Pascal&#8217;s wager seems like a bad deal for Mormons. In case anyone is unfamiliar with Pascal&#8217;s wager, the basic idea is that God can either exist or not. If he does exist, then believers go to heaven. If he doesn&#8217;t, then it really doesn&#8217;t matter whether one believes. The smart money says to believe in God and take the x% chance of infinite happiness. How does this apply to Mormonism? Well, we have the added wrinkle of some pretty good second-best destinations. Thus, if one&#8217;s options are to either be a believing Mormon or a believing Catholic, and the two possibilities are that either Mormonism or Catholicism is true, the resulting chart of possibilities would look like this: &#8212;- Mormonism Correct Catholicism Correct Believing Mormon Celestial Kingdom Hell Believing Catholic Terrestrial Kingdom Heaven<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[20],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1215","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-philosophy-and-theology"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1215","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1215"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1215\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1215"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1215"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1215"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}