{"id":1171,"date":"2004-08-12T12:04:31","date_gmt":"2004-08-12T18:04:31","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=1171"},"modified":"-0001-11-30T00:00:00","modified_gmt":"-0001-11-30T06:00:00","slug":"the-efficacy-of-condemnatory-prophecy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/2004\/08\/the-efficacy-of-condemnatory-prophecy\/","title":{"rendered":"The Efficacy of Condemnatory Prophecy"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Bob Caswell <a href=\"http:\/\/www.haloscan.com\/comments\/megkurtz\/109228198828767328#72859\">has an interesting comment <\/a>over at <a href=\"http:\/\/megsb-o-m.blogspot.com\/\">Meg Kurtz&#8217;s new Book of Mormon blog<\/a>.  Bob writes of Lehi:<\/p>\n<p><i>Wouldn&#8217;t you be angry if a random person in your town claiming to be a prophet came to you and &#8220;testified&#8221; of your &#8220;wickedness and abominations&#8221;? Maybe this is the way the Lord wanted it, but I have to think there could have been a more tactful way if Lehi REALLY wanted people to listen to him.  Bottom line: I&#8217;m glad I didn&#8217;t live in Jerusalem at the time because I probably would have been annoyed at Lehi (big mistake!).<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Bob has a point &#8212; where is the commitment pattern, the &#8220;building relationships of trust,&#8221; the rest of the missionary toolbox that we use today?  Condemnatory prophecy &#8212; &#8220;Hey, Bob, I testify to you that you are wicked!&#8221; &#8212; doesn&#8217;t seem to be the most effective missionary tool.  Why do they seem to use it so much in the scriptures?<br \/>\n<!--more--><br \/>\nA few possibilities come to mind:<\/p>\n<p>1.  Lehi really didn&#8217;t care if anyone followed him (and note &#8212; no one did!).  He was just concerned about &#8220;washing his hands&#8221; of their blood.  Kind of callous, if you ask me.<\/p>\n<p>2.  This was just how they did things back then.  We can&#8217;t expect Lehi to have access to modern tools.  He may have been a bad missionary, but he was doing the best he knew how.  (Query:  Why would God allow people to be bad missionaries for thousands of years?).<\/p>\n<p>3.  The people were just so wicked that you had to yell at them.  But wouldn&#8217;t that be an unusual circumstance.  In contrast, we hardly see <i>any<\/i> soft missionary tools used in the scriptures?  Perhaps a few, but the standard tactic seems to be to walk up to someone and tell him that he&#8217;s wicked.<\/p>\n<p>4.  We&#8217;re all a bunch of pansies now, with our &#8220;building relationships of trust&#8221; and whatnot.  We should be telling more people that they&#8217;re going straight to hell.  <\/p>\n<p>5.  For some reason, scriptural writers almost uniformly left out the touchy-feely commitment pattern stuff and just wrote down the bold proclamations of wickedness and destruction.  (Why?)<\/p>\n<p>I&#8217;m not thrilled with any of these, but perhaps (likely) there are possibilities I&#8217;m missing here.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bob Caswell has an interesting comment over at Meg Kurtz&#8217;s new Book of Mormon blog. Bob writes of Lehi: Wouldn&#8217;t you be angry if a random person in your town claiming to be a prophet came to you and &#8220;testified&#8221; of your &#8220;wickedness and abominations&#8221;? Maybe this is the way the Lord wanted it, but I have to think there could have been a more tactful way if Lehi REALLY wanted people to listen to him. Bottom line: I&#8217;m glad I didn&#8217;t live in Jerusalem at the time because I probably would have been annoyed at Lehi (big mistake!). Bob has a point &#8212; where is the commitment pattern, the &#8220;building relationships of trust,&#8221; the rest of the missionary toolbox that we use today? Condemnatory prophecy &#8212; &#8220;Hey, Bob, I testify to you that you are wicked!&#8221; &#8212; doesn&#8217;t seem to be the most effective missionary tool. Why do they seem to use it so much in the scriptures?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":5,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[10],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-1171","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-missionary"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1171","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/5"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1171"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1171\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1171"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1171"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/timesandseasons.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1171"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}