Comments on: The Cult of Happiness https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/08/the-cult-of-happiness/ Truth Will Prevail Sun, 05 Aug 2018 23:56:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.8 By: Cecily duPont https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/08/the-cult-of-happiness/#comment-542542 Mon, 04 Sep 2017 15:50:52 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=37143#comment-542542 This makes me think of a comment I heard in church this week about how the burdens and sorrows we are given are meant to be shared, that way everyone is helped. It also reminds me of a quote that goes something like this “Sorrow shared is sorrow halved, but joy shared is joy doubled”.

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By: kenngo1969 https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/08/the-cult-of-happiness/#comment-542540 Sun, 03 Sep 2017 17:48:29 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=37143#comment-542540 I had some thoughts along similar lines: https://greatgourdini.wordpress.com/2015/05/23/im-okay/

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By: BevP https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/08/the-cult-of-happiness/#comment-542536 Fri, 01 Sep 2017 10:26:26 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=37143#comment-542536 When we give up insisting that photographs of authorities show toothy grins, maybe we can believe it’s ok to have bad days.

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By: SVBob https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/08/the-cult-of-happiness/#comment-542522 Mon, 28 Aug 2017 23:59:06 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=37143#comment-542522 Well, I have a formula called the happiness principle. If you are not happy, then change something. Even if the change means meditating on the fleetingness of life. We can fix some of the externalities. We can modify our expectations. We can change ourselves into different people by meditation and self examination. We can peacefully help the people around us to change. Then there are antidepressants, thank goodness. None is easy to do but it is generally possible, and having said that we can die happy most of the time.

I am proof that it sort of works. I have had my share of problems, reverses and losses. I have used the principle to recover equilibrium. (But I may be a special case.) Also, I know enough about life to realize that my Facebook friends are telling me the better sides of their experiences so that I can be glad for them. They do not have to tell me of the dark side, I have a good imagination.

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By: BigSky https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/08/the-cult-of-happiness/#comment-542502 Fri, 25 Aug 2017 03:56:15 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=37143#comment-542502 Great post Dave. This is a topic that needs to be discussed more.

I see the cultural cult of happiness everywhere, and what immediately came to my mind was Julie Beck’s conference talk from several years ago when she was general Relief Society president. I know many mom’s who more or less went into shock…as if their lives were not already difficult enough, now they had to make their kids look perfect for church every week too.

It’s not healthy. We need to be more honest and we need a culture which rewards honesty.

Years ago my wife and I attended a stake adult fireside. A highly respected, highly educated church educator and author spoke. I thought I was in for an hour of endless BoM analysis, but no. He largely talked about the years of depression he suffered through, how he had thoughts of ending his life, how he had lost all motivation to continue on with his career and didn’t know what to do. After seeking professional help, he started to recover. He said he was doing better, but there were still hard days. I came away more inspired than I ever had from a meeting like this. It was so refreshingly real it is hard for me to describe to this day.

When testimony meetings are such safe places–and in some wards indeed they are–that people can disclose all that is in their heart, those in attendance are changed for the better. I know I am, but I still struggle to be vulnerable.

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By: Anonymous https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/08/the-cult-of-happiness/#comment-542501 Fri, 25 Aug 2017 03:46:41 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=37143#comment-542501 Huh? The plan is so we can be happy. It’s not a plan where we’ll be happy at every moment unless you are able to be happy amidst tragedy. I’m sure God wasn’t laughing during the holocaust.

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By: Bryan in VA https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/08/the-cult-of-happiness/#comment-542500 Fri, 25 Aug 2017 02:26:20 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=37143#comment-542500 Alma 42:8 is a rebranding statement?!?!

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By: Chet https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/08/the-cult-of-happiness/#comment-542499 Fri, 25 Aug 2017 01:46:13 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=37143#comment-542499 Dave – you have almost persuaded me to share more on social media about my daughter who is NOT going on a mission due to mental illness and her eventual desire to move out so that she can, in her words, live her own standards which differ from those at home.

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By: Clark Goble https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/08/the-cult-of-happiness/#comment-542498 Thu, 24 Aug 2017 16:58:59 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=37143#comment-542498 Reminds me of sending out Christmas letters. I wanted to share what had happened during the year. Well that included basement floods, kids with health problems, problems at work. Now none of these things particularly bothered me. I’ve got a weird mix of optimism and pessimism where I’m pessimistic about bad things happen, but optimistic in that I enjoy overcoming them. But man, I started getting all these calls about it. Because I was forthright about what was going on, it seemed even more shocking I guess compared to all the other Christmas cards. What was so weird is that I honestly didn’t think it was a bad year at all, all things considered. I felt extremely happy.

I don’t send out Christmas cards anymore. LOL.

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By: Dave K https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/08/the-cult-of-happiness/#comment-542497 Thu, 24 Aug 2017 15:51:58 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=37143#comment-542497 Good post Dave. I would add the scriptures as a great resource to counteract the Cult of Happiness. The story of Job. Stephan’s martyrdom. Alma’s people in bondage. Saints in Missouri. The scriptures are replete with suffering.

Indeed, Moses 7 makes a pretty good case that being a god quite often really bad, worse than we can imagine. Personally, I’m still on the fence as to whether exaltation will be worth it. If the joy and sorrow simply counteract in some great ying-yang equation, count me out. I’m hopeful that the sorrow, while great, is nonetheless swallowed up in the joy. But some days I’m not really confident in that.

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