Comments on: Binaries of the Lamb and the Devil – Reading Nephi – 14:8-17 part II https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/08/reading-nephi-148-17-part-ii/ Truth Will Prevail Sun, 05 Aug 2018 23:56:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.8 By: Leonard Reil https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/08/reading-nephi-148-17-part-ii/#comment-542514 Sat, 26 Aug 2017 10:51:38 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=37098#comment-542514 I’m really glad you’ve come back to this series, and appreciated this a great deal. This has been on my mind a great deal (I currently reside in India; in my previous assignment I worked of human rights, including freedom of religion and pluralism) and you’ve summed up eloquently where my thinking has been. I enjoyed particularly you thinking on the Church of the Lamb vs. The covenant people of the Lord; nice way to consider uniqueness/exclusivity and universalism within the gospel context.

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By: jader3rd https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/08/reading-nephi-148-17-part-ii/#comment-542496 Tue, 22 Aug 2017 18:52:01 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=37098#comment-542496 I’m hoping the difference is those striving to be better than what they are, and those who are not.

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By: Rob Osborn https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/08/reading-nephi-148-17-part-ii/#comment-542494 Tue, 22 Aug 2017 02:57:43 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=37098#comment-542494 Theres no problem with dualism, no mistakes. Heaven or hell, saved or damned, sheep or goats, eternal life or eternal death, the right hand or the left hand, the wheat or the tares, cleansed or filthy, the way of life or the way of death.

It goes on and on. The entire gospel is built upon this dualism. Its the truth. All doctrine must and does fall within this strict dualism. Even in section 76 Christ says he saves all except the sons of perdition and he does this through the saving ordinances of the gospel. Christ cleanses “all” except for the sons of perdition. Is that not dualism in finality?

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By: ji https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/08/reading-nephi-148-17-part-ii/#comment-542492 Tue, 22 Aug 2017 02:10:12 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=37098#comment-542492 These verses are contrapositive, which adds to the richness of the thought.

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By: ji https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/08/reading-nephi-148-17-part-ii/#comment-542491 Tue, 22 Aug 2017 02:04:54 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=37098#comment-542491 Can this really be an angelic message from the heavens?

See Matthew 12:30 and Luke 9:50

Didn’t the Savior Himself say the same thing? From God’s perspective, it makes sense.

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By: Clark https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/08/reading-nephi-148-17-part-ii/#comment-542490 Mon, 21 Aug 2017 18:39:08 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=37098#comment-542490 Book of Mormon dualism is interesting. Of course dualism in the middle east was rising at this time, especially in Persia. Zoroaster is possibly a contemporary of Lehi. Even if he is later or much earlier though the ideas of his dualism were in the air. Dualism becomes a rather prominent character in Jewish apocalyptic literature of which Nephi’s vision is a good example (with many parallels in particular to 1 Enoch). The old notion (popularized in our time by Led Zepplin) is the doctrine of the two ways.

It makes complete sense why Nephi would see his vision in these terms. (If anything this way of thinking gets stronger during the exile) I think the bigger question is why on earth God would communicate in that way. Joseph Smith quickly sees an issue with dualism despite that being the way it’s initially taught to him. Thus his question while translating John 5:29 being a problem with dualism leading to the revelation of the three degrees of glory. (John 5:29 is dualistic too as is most of Christian history)

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