Comments on: Be Still My Soul https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/07/be-still-my-soul/ Truth Will Prevail Sun, 05 Aug 2018 23:56:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.8 By: Janis B. Nuckolls https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/07/be-still-my-soul/#comment-542515 Sat, 26 Aug 2017 16:56:10 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=36896#comment-542515 What a beautiful post! I’m so impressed at your courage in being willing to share what you could give to people in such a different setting, and with such major challenges. Bravo!

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By: Clark Goble https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/07/be-still-my-soul/#comment-542122 Sat, 15 Jul 2017 22:34:08 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=36896#comment-542122 Mike, standing while singing is a good idea. It’s pretty common for the intermediary hymn though – helps get the wiggles out too. But we should note a lot of people really don’t like singing.

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By: Mike https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/07/be-still-my-soul/#comment-542116 Sat, 15 Jul 2017 03:09:45 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=36896#comment-542116 Marivene:

Interesting comment and essentially correct. But like so many other contrasts between my ward and evangelical churches nearby, do you do it out of duty and guilt, or out of love and devotion? If the later you don’t have to try and memorize the words to the songs, they stick in your head spontaneously for most of the week. Singing is contagious, it helps when others around you are enthused, but how to get the ball rolling is difficult. I look forward to singing protestant hymns, I dread the droning and moaning in my ward.

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By: Mike https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/07/be-still-my-soul/#comment-542115 Sat, 15 Jul 2017 03:00:33 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=36896#comment-542115 Specific suggestions for better music:

Get rid of the hymnal. (Ok ,keep it but don’t use it as a limiting device, but as a spring board)

More music, less blabbering. Encourage more instrumental and voice performance by youth and adults with the interest.

Borrow music from protestants, like we used to do. Here is a personal favorite https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXDGE_lRI0E

Stand when singing. I swear we should own the song: “I am bound for the promised land.” You can’t stand singing that and not feel it.

Guitars.* (associated with hippies and heroin in the minds of the WW2 generation.

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By: emilyhgeddes https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/07/be-still-my-soul/#comment-542018 Wed, 05 Jul 2017 21:52:22 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=36896#comment-542018 I volunteered for the same program at the prison in Draper in the late 1990s. It was a humbling, eye-opening, paradigm-shattering experience for me, though our classroom didn’t have a piano.

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By: Cam Nielsen https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/07/be-still-my-soul/#comment-542017 Wed, 05 Jul 2017 04:30:03 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=36896#comment-542017 @Marivene, I agree, but some ward choirs are so stale they sing the same 8-12 songs every year, same arrangements, with little variation, and to be honest they do not appeal to the rising generation (I’m talking style, not content here). At least new arrangements of classics keep things fresh. The arrangements sung in general conference are so potent, because they take the foundation or the original music and make it even better. I’m talking The Iron Rod, Choose the Right, etc. Honestly, for me, lots of the melodies and harmonies are often a barrier to a higher degree of communion with the hymns. I don’t necessarily think this is by accident, but if President Packer felt so strongly about memorizing hymns, some degree of evolution is necessary. If we believe in continuing revelation, surely we can supplement the classics with new inspired works.

But who am I? I’m just a mediocre musician who thinks a violin can be just as risky in sacrament meeting as a trumpet. I may have forgot to specify the best verses for “Kolob” on mother’s day, but I started a new tradition of singing the star spangled banner in sacrament meeting which lots of people avoid, so that makes up for it, right? ;)

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By: Cam Nielsen https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/07/be-still-my-soul/#comment-542016 Wed, 05 Jul 2017 04:23:39 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=36896#comment-542016 Thanks for sharing. Love both posts so far.

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By: Marivene https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/07/be-still-my-soul/#comment-542012 Tue, 04 Jul 2017 22:22:00 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=36896#comment-542012 I would respectfully suggest that the improvement that would make the biggest difference, would be if we, the members, would just sing. I have served decades as an organist & before that as a chorister, & I cannot recall a ward in which most of the members did not sing. That is not an organizational change; it is a personal choice for each members to decide to sing.

Raised as a Protestant, UCC Congregationalist, my sister & I both sang in choir throughout our teenage years. The music was lovely, but it did not “move my soul” the way simple hymns sung by a ward choir do. My current stake maintains a music library at the stake center, for choir use, which is helpful, but not all the directors choose to use it, or the hymn book. They want something ” new and fresh”. Years ago, Elder Boyd K. Packer had a strong opinion about using the hymns. Over the years, I have come to see the wisdom in his point of view.

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By: JR https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/07/be-still-my-soul/#comment-542010 Tue, 04 Jul 2017 21:23:40 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=36896#comment-542010 Mike, after decades of music, teaching, and priesthood administrative service in our Church and decades of music service in a variety of Protestant churches, I can agree with you that music is not important in most of our congregations, and is important in Protestant services, even those with singing equally as bad as any LDS singing I have heard. I would measure the importance of music in the LDS Church by its place in line for budget, use of building, purchase and care of instruments, and time of the potential participants. By those measures it commonly comes after everything else including fireside refreshments. Organizationally, we value poisoning ourselves with sugar more than uplifting ourselves or others with music. It has not always been this way. But given the current parameters — small, overscheduled buildings without any choir rehearsal room, overwhelmed bishops with their own career and family obligations, small wards relying entirely on volunteer service of potential musicians residing within their geographically defined wards, limited budgets and restrictions on fund raising – I fail to see how we could make organizational changes that would drive improvement. I would love to hear your specific suggestions. But that discussion is beside the point of Michelle’s post.

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By: JR https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/07/be-still-my-soul/#comment-542009 Tue, 04 Jul 2017 21:21:53 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=36896#comment-542009 Michelle, Thank you very much for a moving story well-told. I remind myself regularly that enthusiastic, horrendously tone-deaf hymn singing has a place in the hearts of others, despite its functioning for me as both an aesthetic and spiritual assault. (For years I had to leave Priesthood opening exercises for the “singing”. Thankfully, my current bishop has cut the singing. Most have not noticed, but I’m sure some in the ward having sacrament meeting at the same time appreciates it. Maybe we should occasionally go back to bellowing in 40 different keys at once (yes, I know that requires microtones, but, heck, our crew uses them whenever they sing, commonly compressing a melody with an octave range into a fifth), just to remind that other ward how blessed they are on the Sundays we do not “sing.”

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By: Mike https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/07/be-still-my-soul/#comment-542008 Tue, 04 Jul 2017 19:07:23 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=36896#comment-542008 If music is so important and so effective, then why don’t we Mormons do a better job at church each week with it?

If you are honest and look at most Protestant and Catholic services, their music is far more moving and speaks more clearly to my soul. At least that is so true for me. Many people tell me our music is just fine, but that is not my experience. Sorry.

We could use our buildings that sit idle during most of the day as music schools and let private teachers raise up a generation of great musicians. The music minister usually has a position in a Protestant church akin to a counselor in the bishopric, so crucial is music to their services. Organizationally we could make changes that might drive improvement.

Preaching and singing.The basics to a good church service.

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By: Ben H https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/07/be-still-my-soul/#comment-542006 Tue, 04 Jul 2017 04:04:32 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=36896#comment-542006 Wonderful story, Michelle! Thank you!

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By: Jerry Schmidt https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/07/be-still-my-soul/#comment-542001 Mon, 03 Jul 2017 19:45:35 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=36896#comment-542001 And this tiny insect caught in the world wide Web thanks you for your story.

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By: Hope Wiltfong https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/07/be-still-my-soul/#comment-542000 Mon, 03 Jul 2017 19:06:25 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=36896#comment-542000 Music is much more important than we realize. Thank you for sharing your story.

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By: Thomas S https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2017/07/be-still-my-soul/#comment-541998 Mon, 03 Jul 2017 16:32:32 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=36896#comment-541998 Back when I was a wayward teenager… I ended up in boarding school in Montana. I went to church once when my parents came to visit, and then later I was able to attend a few times after I turned 18 and was working on a ranch. I had my scriptures, which I read, and I had my prayers, but I never noticed how much I missed the songs of the Saints until they were gone.

I remember the first time we had a baptist minister come in with a guitar on a night we weren’t working. There were a ton of songs that wren’t familiar to my tradition, but she knew how to play “How Great Thou Art”. Being able to connect with others who were trying in their own way to serve others and love God through song, especially when things sing impossibly hard, there’s something about that that transcends creed or dogma. I still sing “How Great Thou Art” in more of a soulful rhythm than a choral rhyme. My kids know that version now because they ask for it at bed sometimes, and I love that sung in solo it comes across as a psalm.

And When I think
Of God
His Son not sparing

Sent him to die
I scarce can take it in

That on the cross
My burden gladly bearing
He bled and died
to take away my sin

Then sings my soul
My Savior
God
To Thee

How Great Thou Art
How Great Thou Art

Then sing my soul
My Savior
God
To Thee

How Great Thou Art,

How Great
Thou Art

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