Comments on: A Reaction to the New Leonard Arrington Book https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2016/06/a-reaction-to-the-new-leonard-arrington-book/ Truth Will Prevail Sun, 05 Aug 2018 23:56:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.8 By: JT https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2016/06/a-reaction-to-the-new-leonard-arrington-book/#comment-538235 Thu, 16 Jun 2016 15:45:03 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=35480#comment-538235 Dave (31) – I’m really interested in learning more about this new 4-volume history of the church. Any more details you can provide? Google isn’t giving me anything.

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By: Ardis https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2016/06/a-reaction-to-the-new-leonard-arrington-book/#comment-538222 Tue, 14 Jun 2016 21:55:55 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=35480#comment-538222 I think the “no journal writing allowed” claim is a misunderstanding of the request early in the 20th century that senior church officials no longer record the details of certain councils — say, their own version of minutes of Council of Twelve meetings — in their personal journals. That limited request has morphed in the minds of the less informed to mean no senior leader should keep any sort of journal — and that is patently not the reality.

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By: Pete https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2016/06/a-reaction-to-the-new-leonard-arrington-book/#comment-538220 Tue, 14 Jun 2016 20:06:17 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=35480#comment-538220 I think the ‘no journals’ admonition was reported by Hans Mattsson, former Swedish Area Authority.

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By: Ben S. https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2016/06/a-reaction-to-the-new-leonard-arrington-book/#comment-538217 Tue, 14 Jun 2016 18:58:37 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=35480#comment-538217 Ah. I was aware of that, which seems to me entirely different than the “no journal writing allowed” assertion above.

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By: Pete https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2016/06/a-reaction-to-the-new-leonard-arrington-book/#comment-538215 Tue, 14 Jun 2016 16:26:12 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=35480#comment-538215 This article mentions the copyright issue.

Why top Mormon leaders’ private writings may never become public

In the 1980s, assistant church historian Richard E. Turley explains, the Utah-based faith began requiring all Mormon general authorities to sign an agreement, pledging that any “work product” — including their “journals, speeches, photographs and other records of enduring value” — belongs to the church’s history department “for long-term preservation.”

The Church History Library, he says, “seeks to make as much information as it can publicly available from these records within legal, ethical, and religious boundaries and practical resource constraints.”

The agreement is fairly common among large organizations and research libraries, Turley says, but Mormonism has unique concerns, namely, “to protect church members in their confidential communications and discussions, and to preserve the sanctity of ceremonies and blessings.”

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By: Ben S https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2016/06/a-reaction-to-the-new-leonard-arrington-book/#comment-538214 Tue, 14 Jun 2016 15:07:43 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=35480#comment-538214 “the church has even gone so far as to extend this opacity to future historical work by demanding its top leaders no longer keep journals.” Yes, source?

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By: Terry H https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2016/06/a-reaction-to-the-new-leonard-arrington-book/#comment-538210 Tue, 14 Jun 2016 05:46:37 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=35480#comment-538210 rah. Not sure they’re demanding they no longer keep journals as much as the Church completely controls the copyright of their papers (even pre-calling) AND that of their wives. This is a direct result of LA’s diaries. My neighbor was just released as an Area Seventy. At the time of the calling, he and his wife were required to sign over the copyrights to their papers.

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By: rah https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2016/06/a-reaction-to-the-new-leonard-arrington-book/#comment-538208 Tue, 14 Jun 2016 04:55:51 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=35480#comment-538208 Julie,

Thanks for your kind response. In thinking about institutional leadership choices transparency/opacity isn’t, of course, a binary choice but more of a continuous one. I would tend to think of things as “more/less opaque/transparent” then one or the other. Clearly, almost no organization strives for perfect transparency. The church and its leaders have every right to not say have all their internal deliberations live streamed :) On a continuum I think we have to say our church even when compared to other churches is currently on the high end of opacity. Particularly relevant to this discussion the church has even gone so far as to extend this opacity to future historical work by demanding its top leaders no longer keep journals. So we won’t even benefit the way we have in the past from say David O McKay’s journals, much of the JS papers etc. That to me along with the church’s incredibly opaque financial system are to me the most striking examples of the organizations choices along this continuum. I continue to believe that in the long run such extreme opacity breeds dysfunction, weakness and creates more problems than it solves. I hope that maybe the transparency bug in the history department might spread more broadly. I think we would be a stronger people and church for it. But these clearly aren’t my choices to make :)

I would disagree with your assertion that the internet makes “any hint of disagreement public”. I think the church is incredibly good at shielding even very close church watchers from much of internal disagreement and deliberations of the organization. We only see hints of things spilling out and must speculate on most of it. Some very, very connected people see more but it is hard to disentangle hearsay from such leaks. I think the internet has mostly increased speculation order of magnitude more it has increased available information on the discussions going on at the COB or among the Brethren.

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By: knightjl7 https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2016/06/a-reaction-to-the-new-leonard-arrington-book/#comment-538202 Tue, 14 Jun 2016 02:13:27 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=35480#comment-538202 Well, I have to read the Arrington book. But every culture runs into the natural tensions between honest introspection versus dogmatic reflection/reaction. History has repeatedly shown that to the dogmatic, the line between honesty and heresy can be very thin. Mormon culture is not the exception to this rule. It is the rule, and the latest HCO debacle certainly shows that.

Are the “Brethren” susceptible to dogmatism? Ahh, yes, as many of them define it. It is a mark of a healthy culture to be able to confront and critique dogmatism, even at the highest levels. History also shows that this is very hard to do.

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By: Joe https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2016/06/a-reaction-to-the-new-leonard-arrington-book/#comment-538199 Tue, 14 Jun 2016 01:15:54 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=35480#comment-538199 Do you think that the frustration on Arrington’s part and that of the opposing figures in the Church hierarchy are mostly due to a conflict on how much truthful or how much scholarly written the resulting work should be? – In other words was a white-washed scholarly volume more appreciated than a truthful folksy tale or vice-versa?

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By: Clark Goble https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2016/06/a-reaction-to-the-new-leonard-arrington-book/#comment-538196 Mon, 13 Jun 2016 21:32:00 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=35480#comment-538196 Not being aware of “office politics” is a huge problem for someone in what is effectively partially a management position. A lot of things that some might blame on foes might well be a problem of just not knowing how to adjudicate between differences of opinion nor communicate well with people who don’t understand you. Those are important skills. Someone with those skills may well have had a very different experience.

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By: Ben P https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2016/06/a-reaction-to-the-new-leonard-arrington-book/#comment-538195 Mon, 13 Jun 2016 19:25:23 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=35480#comment-538195 I’m coming to this rather late, Julie. Thanks for your reactions. I plan to write a bit more at some point on this topic, but I mostly want to emphasize that Arrington, like any good scholar, is crafting a particular narrative not only through his words and through his actions. The “innocent martyr” label is one he sculpted himself–indeed, the fall of Camelot did as much to cement his legacy among historians as anything else–and we should keep that in mind. I’m not saying he was wrong in his actions any way, or that those who censored him were right, but that scholars should be careful that we are not merely extending Arrington’s own story rather than analyzing it.

Again, I plan to write another post at a later time. Right now I need to make the most of my time in the archives…

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By: JT https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2016/06/a-reaction-to-the-new-leonard-arrington-book/#comment-538194 Mon, 13 Jun 2016 16:59:11 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=35480#comment-538194 Dave (or others) – Do you have a link or any additional information on the new 4-volume history of the church? Your comment was the first I had heard of it. Thanks!

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By: jimbob https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2016/06/a-reaction-to-the-new-leonard-arrington-book/#comment-538193 Mon, 13 Jun 2016 16:53:44 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=35480#comment-538193 This is a hobbyist-historian’s review of another historian’s analysis of yet another historian’s life. The word “meta” comes to mind.

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By: Gary Bergera https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2016/06/a-reaction-to-the-new-leonard-arrington-book/#comment-538192 Mon, 13 Jun 2016 16:29:44 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=35480#comment-538192 For what it may be worth, here’s my take-away from having worked on the Arrington diaries:

I tend to see Arrington as more “innocent” than “naive.” He expected that having the official backing of the First Presidency for his agenda (which the Presidency approved), the rest of the Church hierarchy would fall in line to support it. This turned out not to be the case. For their own compelling reasons, certain members of the hierarchy not only questioned Arrington’s approach but worked actively and publicly to undermine it, which they saw as both a challenge to the faith of Church members and as a refutation of the previously received “official” version of Church history. Arrington could never understand why those members of the hierarchy and others who had concerns didn’t first extend to him the courtesy of a private meeting to express those concerns. Especially painful to him were the actions of some members of the Church Historical Department (not the Church History Division) who periodically undertook end-runs around their own immediate supervisors to secretly report on the History Division’s activities. Arrington may not have understood how the Church bureaucracy functioned, in all its occasional byzantine glory, but it’s difficult for me to understand how anyone else in his position could have responded differently.

Arrington’s diaries definitely present Arrington’s own point of view. I write in the editor’s preface to the diaries: “As with all autobiographical texts, Arrington’s diary is a construction of self. In Arrington’s case, the author’s self-awareness may be more intentional than in many other such efforts. Arrington appreciated the historical and political value of maintaining a diary and addressed readers accordingly. That said, Arrington as a diarist typically writes more as a historian seeking balance and understanding than as, say, an attorney arguing a client’s case regardless of the merits of the opponent’s allegations. While Arrington is certain to record his version of events, he does not shy away from offering judgments of others as well as of himself. In fact, Arrington’s occasional self-criticism serves as a tonic to help render more balanced and nuanced the reader’s own judgments of Arrington especially. Arrington may be his own most articulate defender, but he is also his own most knowledgeable critic. His sometimes clinical self-awareness endows his diary with a heightened degree of honesty.”

It would be a mistake to heroize Arrington. I suspect he would be the first to shun such a label. At the same time, I believe that it would not be an exaggeration to suggest that the strides towards openness and accessibility made in recent years by the LDS Church History Library owe much to the groundwork laid in the 1970s by Arrington and the members of his Church History Division.

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