Comments on: For Zion — Part 8 https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2015/03/for-zion-part-8/ Truth Will Prevail Sun, 05 Aug 2018 23:56:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.8 By: Clark Goble https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2015/03/for-zion-part-8/#comment-530851 Mon, 16 Mar 2015 17:58:22 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=33009#comment-530851 I think it’s quite clear that we should distinguish consecration from the various economic experiments of the 19th century. However I wonder if we shouldn’t be careful about casting it as a social order rather than what enables a certain class of social orders. That is we recognize there was no single economic system to live. Why should we assume a single social order? What would work today with our technology and numbers probably is different from a small primitive group in Zarahemla after Christ’s visit.

It’s interesting that Joe doesn’t use the phrase “social order”, except tin passing when he talks about “revelations dealing with the social order of the saints.” I want to finish reading before I comment too much. But there is an element to the text that distinguishes order from God as source. That is order is always being transformed rather than arriving at a fixed order. So we have hope not tied to hope in a particular order so much as an “openness to possibilities in the plural, and not just a demand for a certain or particular possibility in the singular.” This is important I think.

Now I try to be a bit skeptical here since this is already what I think. So I try to argue against it lest I fall too quickly into confirmation bias. You note things that you see as problematic such as particular kinds of focus on clothes or exclusion. It’s interesting that here we’re discussing “order established in the law.” It’s worth asking how this relates to the earlier chapters on hope.

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