Comments on: Times and Seasons’ 2014 Mormon of the Year: The Authors of the LDS Gospel Topics Essays https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2015/01/times-and-seasons-2014-mormon-of-the-year-the-authors-of-the-lds-gospel-topics-essays/ Truth Will Prevail Sun, 05 Aug 2018 23:56:25 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.8 By: Jack https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2015/01/times-and-seasons-2014-mormon-of-the-year-the-authors-of-the-lds-gospel-topics-essays/#comment-529780 Sat, 31 Jan 2015 07:03:21 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=32562#comment-529780 Regarding them “Anonymous essay writers.” Maybe they’re translators instead of writers and don’t want to reveal their methods or sources. Stone in a hat tip to em!

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By: Steve Smith https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2015/01/times-and-seasons-2014-mormon-of-the-year-the-authors-of-the-lds-gospel-topics-essays/#comment-529759 Thu, 29 Jan 2015 23:05:46 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=32562#comment-529759 Indeed. It is probably time to retire the feature. We have an anonymous group of winners who only got like 4% of the readership vote and actually came in 4th place.

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By: dave https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2015/01/times-and-seasons-2014-mormon-of-the-year-the-authors-of-the-lds-gospel-topics-essays/#comment-529752 Thu, 29 Jan 2015 01:15:08 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=32562#comment-529752 maybe what this year’s vote and winner proved is that this particular contest’s time has come and gone and it’s time to retire the feature.

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By: Martin James https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2015/01/times-and-seasons-2014-mormon-of-the-year-the-authors-of-the-lds-gospel-topics-essays/#comment-529553 Tue, 20 Jan 2015 01:02:02 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=32562#comment-529553 We thank thee oh God for anonymous writers…

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By: Brian Rostron https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2015/01/times-and-seasons-2014-mormon-of-the-year-the-authors-of-the-lds-gospel-topics-essays/#comment-529552 Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:48:19 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=32562#comment-529552 Who and what motivated the LDS church to release this series of unsigned essays after decades of presenting a sanitized, if not Disneyified, version of its history to members and nonmembers?

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By: Ziff https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2015/01/times-and-seasons-2014-mormon-of-the-year-the-authors-of-the-lds-gospel-topics-essays/#comment-529551 Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:36:14 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=32562#comment-529551 Fair enough, Left Field. Sorry, y’all T&S bloggers, to be a pest about this!

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By: Left Field https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2015/01/times-and-seasons-2014-mormon-of-the-year-the-authors-of-the-lds-gospel-topics-essays/#comment-529550 Mon, 19 Jan 2015 21:20:04 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=32562#comment-529550 Kate Kelly would pass my personal orthodoxy test just fine. But I will acknowledge (whether I agree or not) that a plausible argument can be made that the essays had greater impact on Mormons and Mormonism during the year. And I do recall a few years ago, when Harry Reid was selected, that all hell broke loose because T&S had such lax orthodoxy standards as to include Reid. You really can’t win. Whatever reasons why they made the choice they did, I don’t think orthodoxy was the deciding factor.

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By: Ziff https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2015/01/times-and-seasons-2014-mormon-of-the-year-the-authors-of-the-lds-gospel-topics-essays/#comment-529549 Mon, 19 Jan 2015 20:45:43 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=32562#comment-529549 Great! Than how did she manage to lose? I’m just saying it looks like at some point there was an orthodoxy test proposed, and y’all decided that you didn’t want to be like Time magazine who named Hitler and Stalin as man of the year in consecutive years, and you’re only going to consider “good” Mormons. Which is fine, but I just wish you would acknowledge it upfront, at the beginning of the process.

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By: Ben S https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2015/01/times-and-seasons-2014-mormon-of-the-year-the-authors-of-the-lds-gospel-topics-essays/#comment-529539 Mon, 19 Jan 2015 16:59:36 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=32562#comment-529539 “if the T&S bloggers were going to exclude her in their decision-making process”

For the record.
She was not excluded from the decision-making process.

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By: Joel https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2015/01/times-and-seasons-2014-mormon-of-the-year-the-authors-of-the-lds-gospel-topics-essays/#comment-529537 Mon, 19 Jan 2015 14:47:45 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=32562#comment-529537 Since when does Kate being excommunicated disqualify her? The term “Mormon” is not synonymous with being a member of the LDS Brighamite church.

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By: Steve Smith https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2015/01/times-and-seasons-2014-mormon-of-the-year-the-authors-of-the-lds-gospel-topics-essays/#comment-529535 Mon, 19 Jan 2015 14:14:12 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=32562#comment-529535 Why were Kate Kelly, Jeremy Runnells, and John Dehlin listed as candidates for Mormon of the year in the first place if they couldn’t have possibly won the vote?

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By: Hedgehog https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2015/01/times-and-seasons-2014-mormon-of-the-year-the-authors-of-the-lds-gospel-topics-essays/#comment-529533 Mon, 19 Jan 2015 09:34:51 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=32562#comment-529533 I’m perplexed by the assumption that because so many voters from the outside skewing votes for Kate Kelly et al. that seems to have been taken to read that votes from your normal readership for any of those candidates don’t count at all.

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By: Ziff https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2015/01/times-and-seasons-2014-mormon-of-the-year-the-authors-of-the-lds-gospel-topics-essays/#comment-529531 Mon, 19 Jan 2015 04:41:42 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=32562#comment-529531 So faithful LDS people shouldn’t even *talk* about those who have been excommunicated? That’s news to me!

You’ve missed the point, Cameron. My complaint is that if the T&S bloggers were going to exclude her in their decision-making process, they should be upfront about it. They should say something like you said, like “This is a place for faithful latter-day saints; we won’t consider nominees who we don’t believe are sufficiently orthodox.” But they didn’t say that. Instead, they explicitly said that people don’t have to be “good Mormons” to be nominated. When Kate was nominated, they accepted her as a candidate and included her in the poll. I’m just saying that if they’re going to exclude people like Kate, they should say that they’re doing so at the beginning of the process.

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By: Cameron N. https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2015/01/times-and-seasons-2014-mormon-of-the-year-the-authors-of-the-lds-gospel-topics-essays/#comment-529529 Mon, 19 Jan 2015 04:20:39 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=32562#comment-529529 Ziff, Kate Kelly has been excommunicated, so that kind of disqualifies her. “Times and Seasons is a place to gather and discuss ideas of interest to faithful latter-day saints.” That seems up-front enough, doesn’t it? Anyone who was surprised Kate wasn’t chosen was deluding themselves.

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By: Ziff https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2015/01/times-and-seasons-2014-mormon-of-the-year-the-authors-of-the-lds-gospel-topics-essays/#comment-529527 Mon, 19 Jan 2015 03:47:54 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=32562#comment-529527 I think what frustrates me about this outcome is that it appears that there’s an orthodoxy criterion being used to exclude some candidates that y’all aren’t being upfront about. In the nomination post, Kent said “As in the past, the choice does not mean that the person is a good Mormon or even a good person.” But when push comes to shove, two years in a row, you have ignored the person who is in my mind the obvious best candidate because she wasn’t orthodox enough. I think it’s fine if you have “must be orthodox according to our standards” as a criterion, but please state it up front, and don’t allow people like Kate Kelly to be nominated if you’re not going to seriously consider her.

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