Comments on: Most Influential Essay https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2003/12/most-influential-essay/ Truth Will Prevail Mon, 06 Aug 2018 17:29:28 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=4.9.8 By: Matt Evans https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2003/12/most-influential-essay/#comment-12393 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=244#comment-12393 A couple of notes:

Mormons believe pride is not the worst sin, it is the universal sin, the sin that afflicts everyone. It is the gateway sin — the sin that fosters most other sins. Pride is also the primary source of contention, family fracture, social disunity and unhappiness. Pride is the chief obstacle to Zion.

(Because pride must compare and compete to survive, when we set aside our pride — refuse to compete or compare — we help others do the same thing. It’s a virtuous cycle.)

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By: Clark Goble https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2003/12/most-influential-essay/#comment-12394 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=244#comment-12394 What a great question. Our favorite essay.

My favorite the past few years has definitely been Elder Oaks’ “Scripture Reading and Revelation”
http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Magazines/Ensign/1995.htm/ensign%20january%201995.htm/scripture%20reading%20and%20revelation.htm

I’ve also really loved his talk “The Power to Become” which is rather relevant to several of the threads here.
http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Magazines/Ensign/2000.htm/ensign%20november%202000.htm/the%20challenge%20to%20become.htm

I’d have to say that the overall essays that influenced by worldview the most would be Richard Feynman’s _Surely You’re Joking Mr. Feynman_.

Other’s would be Kimball’s “The False Gods We Worship” and then a talk by Elder Ashton’s I can’t seem to locate on how what appears a blessing may be a curse and vice versa.

BTW – I wonder how influenced by this essay of Lewis’ President Benson was when he gave his fantastic talk on pride.

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By: Russell Arben Fox https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2003/12/most-influential-essay/#comment-12395 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=244#comment-12395 A truly great essay. Contra Matt, I wonder if pride isn’t also, in fact, the worst sin as well as the universal sin, since one may legitimately view certain heinous sins like murder as themselves species of pride. But regardless, it is a vital piece of spiritual writing.

I can’t identify a favorite C.S. Lewis essay, because his entire book The Great Divorce overshadows everything else he wrote, in my mind. To be honest, I’m not how much I agree with Lewis’s vision in that book. But it is much a powerful, comprehensive, and striking take on the whole issue of salvation, and I read it at such a crucial moment in my life (when I was about two months into the mission field), that I adore it regardless of my theological quibbles with it. I cannot help but think that, overall, it might be the truest, most important thing Lewis ever wrote.

Though, if we’re talking as Clark said about “overall essays that influenced [our] worldview,” Rousseau’s Discourse on the Origins of Inequality would have to take first place for me.

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By: lyle https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2003/12/most-influential-essay/#comment-12396 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=244#comment-12396 1. President Benson’s talk on Pride. I think I’ll take up the challenge and compare the Benson/Lewis talks. It might already have been done…I remember an LDS symposium on Lewis a few years back.
2. Someone’s talk on how the Book of Mormon (Benson again?) needs to spread via the talents of indiv members, i.e. arts, sciences, etc.
3. Unger’s refinement of Weber’s protestant ethic, dealing with those that work for utilitarian, calling or transformational reasons. It’s either in Politics: The Central Texts or Knowledge and Politics.

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By: dp https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2003/12/most-influential-essay/#comment-12397 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=244#comment-12397 This is interesting as President Benson’s talk “Beware of Pride” http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Magazines/Ensign/1989.htm/ensign%20may%201989.htm/beware%20of%20pride.htm is a personal favourite. He quotes Lewis from the above essay, so it is interesting to see source in its entirety.

I have also enjoyed Elder McConkie’s “Open Letter to Honest Truth Seekers”, available here: http://www.geocities.com/cumorah/talks/mcc.html

Numerous others spring to mind, though for the most part they are ‘behaviour shaping’ as opposed to ‘worldview shaping’.

Finally, thanks to Lyle for reminding me of President Bensons “Cleansing the Inner Vessel” here: http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Magazines/Ensign/1986.htm/ensign%20may%201986%20.htm/cleansing%20the%20inner%20vessel.htm
and “Flooding the Earth With the Book of Mormon” which really shaped my attitude towards the Book of Mormon in missionary work. http://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Magazines/Ensign/1988.htm/ensign%20november%201988.htm/flooding%20the%20earth%20with%20the%20book%20of%20mormon.htm

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By: Matt Evans https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2003/12/most-influential-essay/#comment-12398 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=244#comment-12398 I’ve heard that President Benson’s pride talk was spurred by his wife’s reading Mere Christianity in a book club that year. She’d really like the Great Sin and gave it to him to read. It’s clear he was influenced by Mere Christianity, as he borrows several conceptual and structural elements.

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By: Kristine https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2003/12/most-influential-essay/#comment-12399 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=244#comment-12399 This is a tangent, at best, but I find it interesting that most of these comments equate sermons and essays. Technically, an essay is a rather different form than a sermon (or a conference talk)–most definitions of the essay as a genre require a certain open-endedness that can be lacking in sermons. To use a reductionist shorthand, essays are supposed to ask questions while sermons are supposed to provide answers. _Mere Christianity_ occupies an interesting middle ground, since most of the chapters in it were originally delivered as radio addresses and maintain their colloquial tone.

There are, of course, some really great Mormon essays–Gene England’s for instance, and I’m wondering if they haven’t been mentioned because the initial comments got us started down a fairly “official” track, or because essays (more strictly defined) don’t offer certain conclusions or obvious prescriptions, and as a group we Mormons tend to like our lessons neatly packaged. What say ye?

For my part, I’d cite Eugene England’s “Why the Church is as True as the Gospel,” Laurel Ulrich’s “Lusterware,” the Lectures on Faith (essays? sermons?), Wollstonecraft’s “Vindication of the Rights of Woman,” Mills’ “On Liberty,” Eloise Bell’s satiric “The Meeting,” Truman Madsen’s “Joseph Smith and the Sources of Divine Love” from _Four Essays on Love_ (good grief, this could go on a long time!) as central to the formation of my worldview. And, lest the clucking of orthodox tongues become deafening, I’ll note also President Kimball’s sermons on idol worship and the one on Mormon arts, Chieko Okazaki’s “Opening the Door to Christ,” and Paul’s Epistle to the Hebrews.

If you held a gun to my head and made me pick just one, it would probably be “Why the Church is as True as the Gospel.”

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By: Kristine https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2003/12/most-influential-essay/#comment-12400 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=244#comment-12400 Clark,

My dad’s a physics professor. He used to read us bedtime stories from “Surely You’re Joking, Mr. Feynman” (!)

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By: Clark Goble https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2003/12/most-influential-essay/#comment-12401 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=244#comment-12401 Not the ones about his rakish ways I hope, Krisitne!

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By: Greg https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2003/12/most-influential-essay/#comment-12402 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=244#comment-12402 Some of my favorites “religious” essays are James’s “The Will to Believe”; Scott Abbott’s “Will We Find Zion or Make it?”; and Jim Faulconer’s “Scripture as Incarnation.” It’s more of a sermon really, but I’d also include Hugh B. Brown’s “A Final Testimony.”

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By: Clark Goble https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2003/12/most-influential-essay/#comment-12403 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=244#comment-12403 One of the first things I read by Jim was a collection of thoughts based upon Bowman’s _Hebrew Thought Compared With Greek_. I still have it stored away somewhere. I must admit that it really quite revolutionized how I thought about the scriptures. It enabled me to take quite a few thoughts that were mainly lurking in my subconscious and be able to explain them in a fairly cogent fashion. Even though the ideas weren’t necessarily his own, it is one of my more read essays. (He also was of great help in encouraging me to read Heidegger and Derrida of whom I was largely ignorant at the time. I probably looked a tad pretentious walking around with _Being and Time_ but it really did coalesce a lot of things I’d already thought about. I know find that Peirce does a better job explaining them, but I came to them via that essay and then later readings in Derrida and Heidegger)

Not really an essay but more of a demonstration, but Derrida’s short work “Tympan” still is one of the most influential works of literature/philosophy I’ve read. (It’s definitely a work that’s hard to pin into a category)

As for Kristine’s technical point about essays, I don’t know if I can think of any essays that fit that category. I must admit that the best conference talks to me do raise more questions than answers. But perhaps they are more “applied questions” as I immediately think about all sorts of questions after reading them. That’s why I mentioned the talks I did. I reread Kimball’s “The False Gods We Worship” and it still raises tons of questions – especially in light of the never ending discussion on consecration elsewhere here.

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By: cooper https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2003/12/most-influential-essay/#comment-12404 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=244#comment-12404 I thoroughly enjoyed the essay. Yes, it brought to mind the Benson talk. The “Power to Become” is also a great talk on the subject also and yes, relevant to several threads.

One point I have often pondered on wealth is what are they chasing? The pride of being first is certainly the big draw. But I also think that somewhere in the chase for wealth it becomes a replacement for the truth. What the grossly over rich person is seeking is that feeling of completeness not found in material wealth. Are they accepting a quasi-substitute from Satan while still feeling the inner yearnings for the real thing? Why does one gain ultimate success and then “cash out” only to do the same thing again? Is it just busy work, the pride – gotta be first at everything drive – or the replacement theory?

By the real thing I mean the truth of the atonement/gospel. Does the spirit continually try to draw them to the completeness of the truth and they keep missing the mark through misunderstanding? We are all born with the light of Christ. Kind of like a beacon calling us to “remember”. Is it that quest that gets confused or manipulated by the adversary so well?
Has anyone else out there pondered this as a possibility?

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By: lyle https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2003/12/most-influential-essay/#comment-12405 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=244#comment-12405 Oh…i also forgot:

Frédérick Bastiat, “The Law,” which despite being hyped by reactionary groups like IHS/Heritage fndtn/LI, etc (untrue, but somewhat funny in a michael moore way)[which is itself only somewhat funny], and being overly simplistic, was a Pres. Benson favorite (cheap appeal to authority).

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By: Matt Evans https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2003/12/most-influential-essay/#comment-12406 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=244#comment-12406 Hi Russell,

I think you’re right that murder, and many other sins, are ultimately species of pride. But I’ve taken my cue from the Book of Mormon, where Jacob taught that pride is a lesser sin. In Jacob 2:20-21 he ascribes the evils of wealth he outlined in verses 12-19 to “abominable” pride. Then in verse 22 he says he’d “rejoice” were pride their only sin. Alas, he could not rejoice because they were guilty of a “grosser crime,” whoredoms. It seems to me that this perspective emasculates Lewis’s ideas about pride’s role in the heirarchy of concerns.

Thinking you’re better than others is ugly; acting on that thought is worse.

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By: Brent https://www.timesandseasons.org/index.php/2003/12/most-influential-essay/#comment-12407 Mon, 30 Nov -0001 00:00:00 +0000 /?p=244#comment-12407 President Hunter’s short discourse at the April 1994 General Conference entitled “What Manner of Men Ought Ye to Be?” is one of my all-time favorites.

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