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		<title>Gaggles of Girls</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 14:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Greenwood</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On the sweetness of Mormon life. My brother&#8217;s new wife curls up against him on the pew, toying with his hair. Two of my little girls sit on his lap. A third stands on the bench next to him to better rub his back. He stares rigidly at the speaker and blushes. His wife smirks. A morose priest slouches morosely to the podium and morosely gives a 15-minute talk he wrote himself. He morosely bears his testimony and sinks back into his chair. My girls tire of my brother. They squall up and down the bench, bearing their testimony in ribbons and ruffles of the natural man. Comment at the Junior Ganymede.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On the sweetness of Mormon life.<span id="more-8399"></span></p>
<p>My brother&#8217;s new wife curls up against him on the pew, toying with his hair.  Two of my little girls sit on his lap.  A third stands on the bench next to him to better rub his back.  He stares rigidly at the speaker and blushes.  His wife smirks.</p>
<p>A morose priest slouches morosely to the podium and morosely gives a 15-minute talk he wrote himself.  He morosely bears his testimony and sinks back into his chair.</p>
<p>My girls tire of my brother.  They squall up and down the bench, bearing their testimony in ribbons and ruffles of the natural man.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jrganymede.com/2009/05/21/gaggles-of-girls/">Comment at the <strong>Junior Ganymede</strong></a>.</p>
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		<title>The Love That Moves The Stars</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 12:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Greenwood</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great acommandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. Thus Christ&#8217;s summary of the Mosaic law. But Christ came to fulfill the law. He gave a new commandment: As I have loved you, love one another. Loving our neighbors the way we love ourselves is no longer enough. We must love our neighbors with the love that Christ has&#8211;swift, implacable, the love that moves the stars. Comment here.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.<br />
This is the first and great acommandment.<br />
And the second is like unto it, <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/matt/22/39#39">Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.</a><br />
On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. </p></blockquote>
<p>Thus Christ&#8217;s summary of the Mosaic law.<span id="more-7757"></span></p>
<p>But Christ came to fulfill the law.  He gave a new commandment:</p>
<blockquote><p>As <a href="http://scriptures.lds.org/en/john/15/12#12">I</a> have loved you, love one another.</p></blockquote>
<p>Loving our neighbors the way we love ourselves is no longer enough.  We must love our neighbors with the love that Christ has&#8211;swift, implacable, the love that moves the stars.</p>
<p>Comment <a href="http://www.jrganymede.com/2009/04/15/love-that-moves-the-stars/ ">here</a>.</p>
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		<title>Notes from all over</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 05:44:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Greenwood</dc:creator>
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		<title>The Gospel is Crude</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 13:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Greenwood</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The temple, we are told, is where the most sacred gospel rites occur. Brigham Young explained the meaning of those rites this way: [they] are necessary for you, after you have departed this life, to enable you to walk back to the presence of the Father, passing the angels who stand as sentinels, being enabled to give them the key words, the signs and tokens So, the deepest, most mystical, most mind-blowing things are . . . passwords? Secret handshakes? Door codes? Jon Stewart says, &#8220;Really, Brigham Young? Angel security guards. Really?&#8221; How crude. How earthy. How unspiritual. Its like God is some kind of man and salvation is a thing and the Kingdom isn&#8217;t a metaphor. Really. Mormonism is the deal God makes us: Less vanity, more reality. Less discussion, more answers. Less everywhere, more somewhere. Less theology, more God. A prophet has no honor in his own country, Jesus says. In Mormonism, God asks us to honor a prophet from our own country. He asks us to honor a God from our own country.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The temple, we are told, is where the most sacred gospel rites occur.  Brigham Young explained the meaning of those rites <a href="http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=f318118dd536c010VgnVCM1000004d82620aRCRD&#038;locale=0&#038;sourceId=bd739527730eb010VgnVCM1000004d82620a____&#038;hideNav=1that">this way</a>:</p>
<blockquote><p>[they] are necessary for you, after you have departed this life, to enable you to walk back to the presence of the Father, passing the angels who stand as sentinels, being enabled to give them the key words, the signs and tokens</p></blockquote>
<p>So, the deepest, most mystical, most mind-blowing things are . . . passwords?  Secret handshakes?  Door codes? Jon Stewart says, &#8220;Really, Brigham Young? Angel security guards. Really?&#8221;<span id="more-7356"></span></p>
<p>How crude.  How earthy.  How unspiritual.  Its like God is some kind of man and salvation is a thing and the Kingdom isn&#8217;t a metaphor.  Really.</p>
<p>Mormonism is the deal God makes us:<br />
Less vanity, more reality.<br />
Less discussion, more answers.<br />
Less everywhere, more somewhere.<br />
Less theology, more God.</p>
<p>A prophet has no honor in his own country, Jesus says.  In Mormonism, God asks us to honor a prophet from our own country.  He asks us to honor a God from our own country.</p>
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		<title>Adultery in Law</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 17:46:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Greenwood</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had a buddy in high school who was a fierce Navajo patriot. He bitterly resented what had become of his people. I needled him once on how much better off the Navajo were now with roads, and medicines, and aqueducts, and things. His voice got strangled and he could hardly say anything. He finally choked this out: &#8220;before you white men came, when we caught an adulterer we had horses drag him to death.&#8221; If I had to bet, I&#8217;d bet that the Navajo didn&#8217;t really used to do that, or if they did they didn&#8217;t do it to all adulterers, male and female, in-group or out-group, alike. But that&#8217;s not the point. Adultery is something that matters a lot to people. It hits them in the gut. And widespread tolerance of adultery is an acid to the institution of marriage. But our law hardly does anything about it. Today Maggie Gallagher proposed a revived adultery tort (alienation of affection) that would make the other man or the other woman liable to the wronged spouse. Something like it sounds like a good idea to me. I would also favor making adultery a prominent factor in determining custody in a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had a buddy in high school who was a fierce Navajo patriot.  He bitterly resented what had become of his people.  I needled him once on how much better off the Navajo were now with roads, and medicines, and aqueducts, and things.  His voice got strangled and he could hardly say anything.  He finally choked this out: &#8220;before you white men came, when we caught an adulterer we had horses drag him to death.&#8221;<span id="more-7352"></span></p>
<p>If I had to bet, I&#8217;d bet that the Navajo didn&#8217;t really used to do that, or if they did they didn&#8217;t do it to all adulterers, male and female, in-group or out-group, alike.  But that&#8217;s not the point.  Adultery is something that matters a lot to people.  It hits them in the gut.  And widespread tolerance of adultery is an acid to the institution of marriage.  But our law hardly does anything about it.</p>
<p>Today Maggie Gallagher proposed a revived <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZjRmZjMyNDMwZTlmYWVlMzQ2NWE1MTIxNGVkNDEzNzk=">adultery tort</a> (alienation of affection) that would make the other man or the other woman liable to the wronged spouse.  Something like it sounds like a good idea to me.</p>
<p>I would also favor making adultery a prominent factor in determining custody in a divorce.  Making adultery a crime again has its attractions to, though whether we should have laws on the books that rarely get enforced is a question.</p>
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		<title>Notes From All Over</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 14:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Greenwood</dc:creator>
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		<title>Coerced abortion, involuntary sterilization</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 20:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Greenwood</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[The US Senate just voted down an amendment that would prevent federal funds given to the United Nations Population Fund programs that support or promote coerced abortion (read China) or involuntary sterilization (still China, I think). My (limited) understanding is that a law to this effect has been in place for awhile but that the current budget bill overrides this law. The amendment that was just defeated sought to restore it. I suppose a Mormon could make an argument for involuntary sterilization under some circumstances. Is there any Mormon argument to be made coerced abortion? I don&#8217;t see any, but the bloggernacle often surprises me. What about this amendment&#8211;is there anyone out there convinced that the United Nations Population Fund is doing such good work that the good outweighs the bad? Or has China been misrepresented and local authorities there aren&#8217;t really coercing abortions like people say? When I was a law clerk, I worked on a fair number of immigration cases. Chinese often claimed asylum because of fear of coerced abortion or sterilization or severe persecution for having more than one kid. Under the circumstances, they would have an incentive to lie, of course. But much of the evidence, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US Senate just <a href="supporthttp://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=111&#038;session=1&#038;vote=00081">voted down</a> an amendment that would prevent federal funds given to the United Nations Population Fund programs that support or promote coerced abortion (read China) or involuntary sterilization (still China, I think).  <span id="more-7287"></span></p>
<p>My (limited) understanding is that <a href="http://www.nchla.org/datasource/idocuments/KempK8503.pdf">a law to this effect</a> has been in place for awhile but that the current budget bill overrides this law.  The amendment that was just defeated sought to restore it.</p>
<p>I suppose a Mormon could make an argument for involuntary sterilization under some circumstances.  Is there any Mormon argument to be made coerced abortion?  I don&#8217;t see any, but the bloggernacle often surprises me.  What about this amendment&#8211;is there anyone out there convinced that the United Nations Population Fund is doing such good work that the good outweighs the bad?  Or has China been misrepresented and local authorities there aren&#8217;t really coercing abortions like people say?</p>
<p>When I was a law clerk, I worked on a fair number of immigration cases.  Chinese often claimed asylum because of fear of coerced abortion or sterilization or severe persecution for having more than one kid.  Under the circumstances, they would have an incentive to lie, of course.  But much of the evidence, including some medical evidence, seemed credible to me.  Still, the scope of the problem might be exaggerated, at least.</p>
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		<title>The Central Religious Experience of Mormonism</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2009 18:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Greenwood</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[What does Mormonism portray as the central religious experience? Maybe its the achievement of Godhood in family, you could make an argument for that. Although that&#8217;s pretty remote and abstract. We don&#8217;t have any visuals or stories about that. In the temple, and in our central book, the Book of Mormon, and in its central passages, the 3 Nephi narrative of Christ in the Americas, the central experience is seeing Christ, and hearing his voice, and pressing his wounds. Note that D&#038;C 130 (the one on marriage) implicitly combines these two. See also here. http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/12/relics-2/#comment-280569]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What does Mormonism portray as the central religious experience?<span id="more-4985"></span></p>
<p>Maybe its the achievement of Godhood in family, you could make an argument for that.  Although that&#8217;s pretty remote and abstract.  We don&#8217;t have any visuals or stories about that.</p>
<p>In the temple, and in our central book, the Book of Mormon, and in its central passages, the 3 Nephi narrative of Christ in the Americas, the central experience is seeing Christ, and hearing his voice, and pressing his wounds.</p>
<p>Note that D&#038;C 130 (the one on marriage) implicitly combines these two.</p>
<p>See also here.</p>
<p>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/12/relics-2/#comment-280569</p>
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		<title>Are Mormons Crazy for Porn?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 19:47:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Adam Greenwood</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[A study has looked at what percent of broadband users in an area also subscribe to a particular network of paid online pornography. Articles about the study have suggested that conservative religious types, especially Mormons, are more likely to use porn. This suggestion has not been without controversy. An irate reader of our blog even got my contact information somehow and called me to rant about it. The best take-down I&#8217;ve seen is here. See also here, here, and here.. Besides the points made in the linked articles, I&#8217;d only add that in my experience men, especially young men, who live in circles where porn use is not condemned have ready access to gigabytes of free porn and may be less likely to use a paid internet pornographer. So the study tells us something, but I don&#8217;t know what. At the end of the day, all we know is that some Mormons have a pornography problem and that the irate reader who called me is a nut.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A <a href="http://people.hbs.edu/bedelman/papers/redlightstates.pdf">study </a>has looked at what percent of broadband users in an area also subscribe to a particular network of paid online pornography.  <a href="http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16680-porn-in-the-usa-conservatives-are-biggest-consumers.html">Articles</a> about the study have suggested that conservative religious types, especially Mormons, are more likely to use porn.<span id="more-7261"></span></p>
<p>This suggestion has not been without controversy.  An irate reader of our blog even got my contact information somehow and called me to rant about it.  </p>
<p>The best take-down I&#8217;ve seen is <a href="http://www.getreligion.org/?p=8408">here</a>.  See also <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YmE0NzA5NmNlNTlkYzJmYTRkZmU2NjY4NTI3ZGVkN2Y=">here</a>, <a href="http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YmYxY2RkOGQ5NmI5NWRlNWM0MTYxNjcwYzVmYzllYzc=">here</a>, and <a href="http://www.sixteensmallstones.org/red-light-states-utah-tops-the-nation-in-online-adult-website-subscriptions">here.</a>.  Besides the points made in the linked articles, I&#8217;d only add that in my experience men, especially young men, who live in circles where porn use is not condemned have ready access to gigabytes of free porn and may be less likely to use a paid internet pornographer.</p>
<p>So the study tells us something, but I don&#8217;t know what.  At the end of the day, all we know is that some Mormons have a pornography problem and that the irate reader who called me is a nut.</p>
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