We have a confessed apologist around: Ben Spackman . While we’re in a confessional mood I’ll admit to being uncomfortable with a lot of apologetics. Like most Mormons, in person I am conflict-averse. Why, just last Sunday when the entire Elders Quorum agreed that following traditions without knowing the reasons for them was foolish, my inner Burke started to boil but I sat on my hands. That’s how conflict averse I am. So when I read FARMS or FAIR or other apologists I sometimes get uncomfortable with the tone, even if they are responding to, really, intolerable filth. They... Read more »
Posts Tagged ‘ Chastity, Sex, and Marriage ’
Robert Frost, The Silken Tent
Robert Frost has a poem that should speak to us, with how marriage-minded and homeward looking we are. Know it by it’s first line, “She is as in a field a silken tent.” The woman he describes is a woman who has filled her duties and obligations with love enough that they scarcely seem duties anymore. A tent is kept up, not tied down, by its various cords, and so she. She is “loosely bound By countless silken ties of love and thought . . . And only by one’s going slightly taut In the capriciousness of summer air... Read more »
Outing Mikulski and Struggle over FMA
Hard core gay activists or homosexualists or gay fundamentalists or what you will have threateded to out opponents of SSM. They’ve accused a couple of staffers of keeping their homosexuality in the closet and now they’ve accused Senator Barbara Mikulski (D-MD), who has only tepidly supported SSM. Be the first to like. Like Unlike Read more »
Limits of the Law of Chastity
Wendy’s comment in the latest SSM thread provoked an interesting discussion between my wife and I yesterday. Wendy wrote: Is same-sex kissing a sin? What about same-sex flirting and dating? Can a same-sex couple live together, love each other, come to church holding hands and sit together in the chapel, hold callings and be okay church-wise, as long as they don’t have sex? This comment relates to the broader issue: What exactly does the law of chastity prohibit? Be the first to like. Like Unlike Read more »
A Practical Matter
I’ve been trying to put my finger on what is so troubling to me about some of the recent discussions of abortion. Aside from the distressingly obvious lack of female participants in the discussion, I think the thing that makes me twitchiest is the discussion of whether or not rape victims should be *allowed* to hear from a compassionate bishop that abortion is an acceptable course. I’ve been thinking a lot about how a bishop could provide appropriate and helpful counsel in that situation, and I have to say that I think the odds are stacked against him, even... Read more »
The Lost Generation of Aborted Americans
OpinionJournal concludes that abortion took 12 million potential voters out of the citizenry for the 2000 elections, 18 million potential voters in this election, and 25 million voters out of the citizenry for 2008. I suppose one could run similar calculations for everything. How many bloggers were aborted? How many converts has the gospel missed out on? Quite a few. True, it’s not as simple as just totalling up the abortions, since some would use contraception otherwise, but still quite a few. Be the first to like. Like Unlike Read more »
Gay Marriage Links
Joshua Livestro on Dutch Marriage: He reports that only a small fraction of gay couples have actually married and that heterosexual marriage rates have sunk while illegitimacy rates have risen. Susan Shell on the Liberal Case Against Gay Marriage: a society without the means of formally acknowledging, through marriage, the fact of generation, like one without the means of formally acknowledging, through funeral rites, the fact of death, seems impoverished in the most basic of human terms. Maggie Gallagher on Mitt Romney and Massachussetts: In birth... Read more »
Lessons on Sex and Morality, from the Book of Esther
The Old Testament gives us all sorts of strange stories. One that I’ve been thinking about lately is the delightfully wacky book of Esther. In particular, I’ve been wondering about the lessons on sex and morality that we can learn from this book. And I find the answers a little surprising, to say the least. We’ll start with lesson one from Esther: Use sex to get power. Be the first to like. Like Unlike Read more »
Church-going as Wedding Feast
A brother at church said that we have a marriage model of church. Geography commits us to one particular group of people and we all give lay service within that group even as it changes. One doesn’t keep looking around for fulfillment, one does one’s duty here. He has a point, of course. For one the Bishop is very much the mother, presumed to be omnicompetent, always on duty, always available for sympathy and counseling, and always tolerated with a sort of amused forbearance. The father too. The brother then inverted the comparison. The Book of Mormon, he said,... Read more »
The Pleasures of Board and Bed, or Gluttony and Concupiscence
I found an article on aging in a waiting room magazine. Some scientists, it turns out, put mice and other creatures on tight rations, for ineffable scientific reasons, only to discover that the mice et al. lived longer and healthier. The side effects were small stature and, here the article sounded a grim note, diminished sex drive. No one knows how whether Man gets similar health benefits—studies are underway!—but a few souls have put themselves on the straitened dietary regimen in advance of the science. The writer talked to them about their efforts. They took him through their schedule.... Read more »
The University of Chicago Prys into the Bedroom
The University of Chicago has conducted an extensive investigation into the sex lives of Chicagoans. This isn’t some Kinsleyesque voyeurism into the mechanical details, but an investigation of the social mechanics–who whom? in what kind of relationship? The fruits of the survey (served here with a little whipped polemic on top) include two items of particular interest: women have happier relationships when they know their men through church or extended family, and women have happier relationships if they marry young. Let’s not kid ourselves that we Saints have all our marriage customs right, but maybe we have them less... Read more »
Marrying and Giving in Marriage
In the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark. When I was young this struck me as incongruous. I thought marriage was a good thing, but these verses seemed to associate it with the unrighteousness of times when the wickedness of men had become great in the earth; and every man was lifted up in the imagination of the thoughts of his heart, being only evil continually. Why would marriage be a feature of fallen times? Why would people keep marrying... Read more »
Yet Another SSM Post
Somehow I ended up on the official Church website for UK and Ireland and found this on the top of the page: “The Gender Recognition Bill, which is currently being considered in the House of Commons will allow a man to become a woman in law (and vice versa). This means transsexuals will be able to marry in their assumed sex. The legislation also makes it a criminal offence to disclose the birth sex of a transsexual. We stress that this Bill poses a real threat to religious freedom and we oppose it because we believe it runs counter... Read more »
Eat, drink and fling.
Some of the plausible and specifically Christian arguments for socially sanctioned gay unions–I think Kaimi’s advanced it on this board–is that an irreducible core of the homosexually inclined simply do not have the choice to be chaste. Under the circumstances, the argument goes, perhaps its best that society encourage them to refrain from the sin of promiscuity even if they can’t be discouraged from the sin of homosex-uality. Now Gordon has found a variant of the same argument: society should accept and discipline promiscuity into ‘polyamory,’ because some people simply do not have the choice to be faithful. I’m... Read more »
Polyamory
As is often the case, Matt Evans was way ahead of the curve when he discussed polyamory back in January with the post, “The Conservative Case for Group and Sibling Marriage.” But here is a new angle (at least to me): some Unitarians are now actively promoting polyamory. The money quotation: It’s the new polygamy, and according to the Unitarian Universalists for Polyamory Awareness, their relationships are at least as ethical as other marriages — gay or straight. At least as ethical? The implication, of course, is that they may be even more ethical. How so? Consider this from... Read more »
Why AT&T has yet to make me CEO
AT&T fired an employee who wouldn’t promise to ‘value homosexuality,’ though the employee, a benighted Christian, did promise to not discriminate. Luckily the employee was able to salve his distress with a lawsuit. (Hat tip: Clayton Cramer) Be the first to like. Like Unlike Read more »
The “War on Porn”
A recent article about the Justice Department committing new resources to prosecute a “war on porn” has started lots of discussion in the blogosphere. (See here, here, here). Many people think that setting up an office with 32 prosecutors, plus assorted investigators and FBI agents, is a misguided use of resources, given current budget deficits and the ongiong war in Iraq. And this isn’t child porn we’re talking about — some of the targets of the new investigation include soft-core cable programs on HBO, and adult movies offered at hotels on pay-per-view. What should we think of this effort,... Read more »
Evil, Therapy, and Repentence
I have spent the last week or so working on a child sex abuse case at work. As a result, I have been reading a large number of judicial cases describing various forms of sexual abuse of children. Be the first to like. Like Unlike Read more »
Yes, kind sir, I was made that way.
John Derbyshire, the toast of New York, has reviewed a history of homosexuality. He speculates that some core of homophobia (what a victory for our enemies is that word) is innate, just as some core of homosexual attraction may be, and heterosexual attraction too. No one on this board–No saints that I know–have made much of the supposed naturalness of homosexuality, so in that sense the innateness of homophobia (Oh bother. Let’s call it same-sex disgust) has very little to say to us. The speculaton does serve to remind how hard it can be to sort through habit, and... Read more »
The Envy of Ephraim Shall Depart
I?ve just received one of those little email alerts from a marriage movement group. Apparently certain NGOs want a UN human rights conference to declare that one cannot make distinctions on the basis of sexual orientation without violating human rights. The group, United Families International, is opposing the declaration despite the notorious toothlessness of the UN on the sound principle that a rotten apple is still a rotten apple even if no one?s going to make you eat it, and the even sounder principle that the american courts can?t be trusted not to pluck rotten apples from the international... Read more »
Gays!
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Reality TV, Morals and Marriage
I just read an article in the March 2004 issue of Harper’s Magazine by Francine Prose titled, “Voting Deomcracy Off The Island: Reality TV and the Republican Ethos.” It’s a rather long, impassioned exploration of the messages and influence of reality tv programs that I found quite disturbing, especially given the popularity, growth, and perceived innocuousness of such programs. She notes incentives for deceit and dishonesty; institutionalized deceit on the part of producers; cruelty and humor at the expense of others; “morality as an albatross or obstacle” to success; that “every human being can and will do anything for... Read more »
Enhancing Nature
At first blush, this may not seem like a serious entry, but it is. (Well, mostly serious anyway.) The other night, I was watching television just before midnight. I don’t remember the program for sure, but since I have a limited palate, it must have been Law & Order, Monk, or a college baskeball game. In other words, nothing that would have signalled to me that I should be especially cautious about the commercials. Suddenly, I was assaulted by a commercial featuring a woman talking about “that special part of a man’s body.” I could not believe what I... Read more »
Marriage According to Biblical Principles
A February 25 statement by Congressman Jim McDermott highlights some of the potential problems of arguing that marriage should be (as the Presidential prayer team has suggested) based on “biblical principles.” Such as: A marriage shall be considered valid only if the wife is a virgin. If the wife is not a virgin, she shall be executed. Ouch! (See also this blog providing further textual support for the passages the Congressman didn’t give verses for). (Link via Heidi Bond). Be the first to like. Like Unlike Read more »
S.T.D.’s – Sexually Threatening Discussions
Stake visitors amble through the hallways during Sunday School time of ward conference in an urban Chicago ward. Suddenly, bellowing from the young women’s classroom, comes the teacher’s mighty voice: “Chastity means NO SEX, NO SEX, NO SEX!” Just how do we communicate sexual standards in understandable, meaningful, practical ways? Be the first to like. Like Unlike Read more »
The Importance of Gay Marriage to Conservatives
This recent New York Times article discusses how important gay marriage has become for conservatives, providing many conservative groups with a new focal point. Indeed, gay marriage (or the specter of it) is probably a more important issue to conservatives than it is to liberals. For many liberals, the issue is relatively unimportant, compared with, say, war in Iraq, federal judiciary appointments, drilling in Alaska, and deprivation of civil liberties under the Patriot Act. Meanwhile, for many conservatives, gay marriage seems to be the most important issue. And that difference in relative importance influences how politicians approach the question.... Read more »
Gay Penguins in the New York Times
Adding further to the discussion of whether or not homosexuality can be considered natural, an article in today’s New York Times discusses the apparently prevalent phenomenon of gay penguins. Who would have thought? Be the first to like. Like Unlike Read more »
Abortion Rights and the Two-Headed Baby
A while back on an abortion-related thread, one commenter broughtup the old idea that abortion rights could suggest conjoined twins might have a right to kill the twin. That line of argument may no longer be dealing in hypotheticals. Doctors are now preparing to remove the second head from an infant born with two heads. The second head, while not attached to a body of its own, has a partially formed brain, eyes, ears, and lips, and its mouth moves when the baby breast-feeds. Be the first to like. Like Unlike Read more »
Perception of Gays
A recent Meridian Magazine article discusses gay marriage. While the article has been praised elsewhere in the blogosphere, I thought the article as a whole was unconvincing, and there was one sentence in particular that I found disturbing. Ms. Barlow states that: “There is no societal benefit to homosexual unions which are based primarily on genital stimulation and the perception of love.” Quite frankly, anyone who thinks that gay relationships are based primarily on “genital stimulation” (wow – she can’t even bring herself to say “sex”!) should actually meet a few gays. Or even crack open a newspaper once... Read more »
The Conservative Case for Group and Sibling Marriage
In his column last November, David Brooks’ argued for gay marriage on the premise that it would channel gays into monogamous relationships, and that monogamous relationships are healthy and fulfilling. If gay couples want to be faithful and monogamous, Brooks opines, conservatives should be doing all they can to encourage and support them. He’s partly right. But he’s mostly wrong because he doesn’t go far enough. Be the first to like. Like Unlike Read more »



