Comments on: Ch-ch-ch-changes

By: Tom

Tom — Tue, 12 Jan 2010 19:26:43 +0000

All I hate to break it to you but for some time the Church has been corporate. These seeming arbitrary changes are just indicative of the institutional stupidity of a corporate structured organization.

By: Rebecca J. Carlson

Rebecca J. Carlson — Wed, 06 Jan 2010 02:55:03 +0000

AHHH!

I am primary president, and we didn’t notice the class number change until they printed out our new rolls for us this year. Now I have to reprint all the teacher binder covers, all the classroom door signs, all the class lists. Maybe we’ll just ignore it and deal with it next year?

By: Stephanie

Stephanie — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 18:00:43 +0000

I like all of the changes.

By: makakona

makakona — Mon, 04 Jan 2010 07:13:10 +0000

sure enough, NO ONE knew what i was talking about and i was summarily dismissed. they bought in only AFTER the primary secretary and ward clerk spent the second hour manually editing rosters. “ctr4? there’s no ctr4! oh… wait…” they changed all of the classes and had copied and collated the rosters in triplicate before the light bulb came on.

also? i’m going to scream if anyone else asks me if i’m sure my two year old isn’t three and doesn’t belong in sunbeams.

By: Ardis Parshall

Ardis Parshall — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:36:30 +0000

I suppose this isn’t the place for you to spell it out, queuno, but somewhere I’d love to read about that worst lesson. Superlatives are always worth learning about.

By: queuno

queuno — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 20:08:38 +0000

Regarding the comment on less centralization … there are a great many things in the Church that are improved by centralization. In our effort to retain local control, let’s not get rid of the centralized things that work well…

I went to a branch last week with one of the worst GD lessons I have ever been forced to sit through. I gave thanks anew for a standardized curriculum.

By: sscenter

sscenter — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 17:29:34 +0000

I am not sure why so much of this sounds like complaining. I find that my church experience is whatever I want it to be. I use whatever translation of the Bible I want to (my ipod currently has eight translations), study whatever books and subjects I want to, fulfill my callings however I want to. I find that what I do on Sunday is mainly about the sacrament and fulfilling my spiritual need for righteous association. After all these years I really love the people that I worship with. Who cares if the lesson material is familiar? I figure the technical changes are just to keep things flowing.

I think that some people mistake their desire for change as a mandate for others. Moving to the Preach my Gospel format of missionary work was a very major change, but now we want something new and we want it now. Better it seems to see how the change is working, what might need to be adjusted again and then move on to other areas. I like the slow nature of the church when it comes to radical change.

Troubled Soul, if I read your post right, it seems that you only went to the temple on two occasions. If that is not true I apologize for misunderstanding. If it is true though, personally I have found great meaning in the symbolism of the temple but it takes many visits and a closeness to the spirit to appreciate and begin to understand it. It would just seem that two visits, apparently years apart and none in the last fifteen years would really not be adequate to judge the validity of any experience.

By: troubled soul

troubled soul — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 15:26:23 +0000

All superficial. Wake me up when they dump the remaining stuff that only had meaning to early Masonic saints. After never going back after my marriage, I gave the temple a second chance in the early 90s, but was still left empty and lapse back to inactivity. I’ll give it a third try if I hear about real change. Saddest thing is raising my kids (2 now grown, two at home) w/o the church because I remember so much good there from my youth, but I can’t lie about how the temple destroyed my faith.

By: Jessica Young

Jessica Young — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 14:28:39 +0000

Most disheartening change (in my opinion): no more visiting teaching groups. President Beck put the kibosh on them during the Sept 09 general RS meeting when she said “Because visiting teaching focuses on individual sisters, Relief Society leaders do not organize women into groups for the purpose of visiting teaching.”

I still miss my ward of four years ago that assigned sisters into very small groups. (usually 3 sisters) I heard only good things about it from other women in the ward.

Can we play “Taps” instead of Bowie’s “Changes” song?

Now I’m just waiting for (dreading) the day that a general primary presidency leader puts the kibosh on nursery aged toddlers playing in the gym to stretch their legs and break up the 2 hours. You all know it’s coming don’t you?

By: KirkC

KirkC — Thu, 31 Dec 2009 13:17:46 +0000

#4, 21 Ardis

That information about the Church magizines is very strange. 50 word articles? I guess people want to skip substance and get to the bare facts.

Maybe they found nobody likes to read longer articles? Not saying that’s a good reason, but it’s the only one I can think of.