Comments on: From the Archives: The Reynolds Jury Charge http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/11/from-the-archives-the-reynolds-jury-charge/ Truth Will Prevail Fri, 25 May 2012 16:00:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Ugly Mahana http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/11/from-the-archives-the-reynolds-jury-charge/#comment-302067 Ugly Mahana Sun, 08 Nov 2009 21:18:13 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=10107#comment-302067 Congress passing a law based on "supposition," not "evidence." Hmmm. Nothing new under the sun, I guess. Congress passing a law based on “supposition,” not “evidence.” Hmmm. Nothing new under the sun, I guess.

]]> By: Jonovitch http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/11/from-the-archives-the-reynolds-jury-charge/#comment-302022 Jonovitch Sat, 07 Nov 2009 16:05:07 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=10107#comment-302022 Can someone explain why the court in section 5 seemed to ignore the "free *exercise* of religion" and focus only on the "beliefs" portion of the amendment? I understand the extreme "human sacrifice" argument, but in the same way, if a person is not allowed to exercise his religious beliefs freely, does that not destroy the intent and purpose of the amendment? I also found this line, in section 6, to be amusing: "Congress ... saw fit to make bigamy a crime in the Territories ... because of the evil consequences that were supposed to flow from plural marriages." The evil consequences weren't actually *shown* to flow from polygamy, they were just *supposed* to flow from it. Conventional wisdom (formed through hearsay, rumors, and biased reports) was the basis of the Congressional statute, and it was subsequently accepted and ratified in the court's opinion as fact. I'm surprised that the court would rely on such supposition in defense of its opinion. Is this normal? Jon Can someone explain why the court in section 5 seemed to ignore the “free *exercise* of religion” and focus only on the “beliefs” portion of the amendment? I understand the extreme “human sacrifice” argument, but in the same way, if a person is not allowed to exercise his religious beliefs freely, does that not destroy the intent and purpose of the amendment?

I also found this line, in section 6, to be amusing: “Congress … saw fit to make bigamy a crime in the Territories … because of the evil consequences that were supposed to flow from plural marriages.” The evil consequences weren’t actually *shown* to flow from polygamy, they were just *supposed* to flow from it. Conventional wisdom (formed through hearsay, rumors, and biased reports) was the basis of the Congressional statute, and it was subsequently accepted and ratified in the court’s opinion as fact.

I’m surprised that the court would rely on such supposition in defense of its opinion. Is this normal?

Jon

]]> By: Kaimi Wenger http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/11/from-the-archives-the-reynolds-jury-charge/#comment-301969 Kaimi Wenger Fri, 06 Nov 2009 16:36:57 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=10107#comment-301969 As shown by Frank's <a href="http://www.imdb.com/media/rm888968192/tt1099212" rel="nofollow">wedding announcement photo.</a> As shown by Frank’s wedding announcement photo.

]]> By: Frank McIntyre http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/11/from-the-archives-the-reynolds-jury-charge/#comment-301968 Frank McIntyre Fri, 06 Nov 2009 15:16:52 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=10107#comment-301968 "Mormon elders were like vampires in their ability to mesmerize young women and overcome their will to resist." That's totally me. “Mormon elders were like vampires in their ability to mesmerize young women and overcome their will to resist.”

That’s totally me.

]]> By: Raymond Takashi Swenson http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/11/from-the-archives-the-reynolds-jury-charge/#comment-301943 Raymond Takashi Swenson Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:38:54 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=10107#comment-301943 As I understand it, the same assumption of female innocence was what led to the construction of an apartment building as a haven for polygamous wives whose husbands had been imprisoned. I also understand that hardly any woman asked to live there. The viewpoint is consistent with the concept popular in the literature of the time that Mormon elders were like vampires in their ability to mesmerize young women and overcome their will to resist. As I understand it, the same assumption of female innocence was what led to the construction of an apartment building as a haven for polygamous wives whose husbands had been imprisoned. I also understand that hardly any woman asked to live there.

The viewpoint is consistent with the concept popular in the literature of the time that Mormon elders were like vampires in their ability to mesmerize young women and overcome their will to resist.

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