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		<title>By: DKL</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/06/mormon-studies-on-a-budget/#comment-294779</link>
		<dc:creator>DKL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 02:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clair, you&#039;re right. Those books are essential, and it was a gross oversight. I still think that the original &lt;i&gt;New Approaches to the Book of Mormon&lt;/i&gt; stands among the finest books written about the Book of Mormon by anyone, and it is an exceptional example of Mormon studies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clair, you&#8217;re right. Those books are essential, and it was a gross oversight. I still think that the original <i>New Approaches to the Book of Mormon</i> stands among the finest books written about the Book of Mormon by anyone, and it is an exceptional example of Mormon studies.</p>
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		<title>By: LRC</title>
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		<dc:creator>LRC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 05:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: w at #26:  “I don’t live anywhere near a library or physical store that would have most of these books, and it’s rare that I encounter anyone else who reads them.”

There’s always the inter-library loan program, worth checking out. You can ask your local librarian how they participate and you can look up books at places like http://www.worldcat.org and http://www.accessmylibrary.com.

Plus online books like the ones at Signature: http://www.signaturebookslibrary.org/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: w at #26:  “I don’t live anywhere near a library or physical store that would have most of these books, and it’s rare that I encounter anyone else who reads them.”</p>
<p>There’s always the inter-library loan program, worth checking out. You can ask your local librarian how they participate and you can look up books at places like <a href="http://www.worldcat.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.worldcat.org</a> and <a href="http://www.accessmylibrary.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.accessmylibrary.com</a>.</p>
<p>Plus online books like the ones at Signature: <a href="http://www.signaturebookslibrary.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.signaturebookslibrary.org/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Clair Barrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clair Barrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 23:04:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this post Kaimi .  Quite a while back, Seagull Book had a dozens of back issues of Dialogue for $2 each.  I bought a copy of each and proceeded to read two or three articles each day on my lunch hour.  I made myself read each article, even if it didn&#039;t sound interesting, footnotes included.

I believe this exercise did more to broaden and enhance my post-college education than any other.

I don&#039;t believe I saw anyone recommend the full set of Signature Book&#039;s series &quot;Essays on Mormonism.&quot;  Each contain a series of excellent topical articles -- for those who are not sure which Dialogue/ Sunstone/ JoMH/ BYU Studies / ... articles to peruse.

- Line Upon Line: Essays on Mormon Doctrine
- The New Mormon History: Revisionist Essays on the Past
- The Prophet Puzzle: Interpretive Essays on Joseph Smith
- American Apocrypha: Essays on the Book of Mormon
- Tending the Garden: Essays on Mormon Literature
- Mormon Mavericks: Essays on Dissenters
- Multiply and Replenish: Mormon Essays on Sex and Family


see  http://www.signaturebooks.com/booksins.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this post Kaimi .  Quite a while back, Seagull Book had a dozens of back issues of Dialogue for $2 each.  I bought a copy of each and proceeded to read two or three articles each day on my lunch hour.  I made myself read each article, even if it didn&#8217;t sound interesting, footnotes included.</p>
<p>I believe this exercise did more to broaden and enhance my post-college education than any other.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe I saw anyone recommend the full set of Signature Book&#8217;s series &#8220;Essays on Mormonism.&#8221;  Each contain a series of excellent topical articles &#8212; for those who are not sure which Dialogue/ Sunstone/ JoMH/ BYU Studies / &#8230; articles to peruse.</p>
<p>- Line Upon Line: Essays on Mormon Doctrine<br />
- The New Mormon History: Revisionist Essays on the Past<br />
- The Prophet Puzzle: Interpretive Essays on Joseph Smith<br />
- American Apocrypha: Essays on the Book of Mormon<br />
- Tending the Garden: Essays on Mormon Literature<br />
- Mormon Mavericks: Essays on Dissenters<br />
- Multiply and Replenish: Mormon Essays on Sex and Family</p>
<p>see  <a href="http://www.signaturebooks.com/booksins.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.signaturebooks.com/booksins.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Kaimi Wenger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaimi Wenger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 17:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ebay can be a good resource for finding some of these sources.  So can Deseret Books&#039; auctions.  

In addition, there are a number of online used bookstores or used book aggregator services.  For instance, I just ran a search for Arrington &amp; Bitton and found dozens of copies, starting at $1 + $4 shipping ($5 total):  

http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=arrington&amp;tn=the+mormon+experience&amp;x=0&amp;y=0

You can sometimes find better deals at DI, but there&#039;s a needle/haystack element to that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ebay can be a good resource for finding some of these sources.  So can Deseret Books&#8217; auctions.  </p>
<p>In addition, there are a number of online used bookstores or used book aggregator services.  For instance, I just ran a search for Arrington &#038; Bitton and found dozens of copies, starting at $1 + $4 shipping ($5 total):  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=arrington&#038;tn=the+mormon+experience&#038;x=0&#038;y=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.abebooks.com/servlet/SearchResults?kn=arrington&#038;tn=the+mormon+experience&#038;x=0&#038;y=0</a></p>
<p>You can sometimes find better deals at DI, but there&#8217;s a needle/haystack element to that.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Stapley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:39:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jared, I haven&#039;t had that problem.  But I copied the NFO file from the CD-ROM to my hard drive (along with the rest I have purchased (Utah history sweet, Some of the old Ancestry ones, etc.)) and then I use the same install of Folio Bound VIEWS 3.11.2 to access them all.  Not sure which one that version of VIEWS came with, though.  If you can&#039;t get it to work, let me know and I&#039;ll do some digging.

That is good news on the update.  Last I had heard, they lost so much money on it that they weren&#039;t going to update it.  But having a lot of their new primary source titles text searchable would be tremendous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jared, I haven&#8217;t had that problem.  But I copied the NFO file from the CD-ROM to my hard drive (along with the rest I have purchased (Utah history sweet, Some of the old Ancestry ones, etc.)) and then I use the same install of Folio Bound VIEWS 3.11.2 to access them all.  Not sure which one that version of VIEWS came with, though.  If you can&#8217;t get it to work, let me know and I&#8217;ll do some digging.</p>
<p>That is good news on the update.  Last I had heard, they lost so much money on it that they weren&#8217;t going to update it.  But having a lot of their new primary source titles text searchable would be tremendous.</p>
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		<title>By: Jared T.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jared T.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:28:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The New Mormon CD-Rom doesn&#039;t work on my new computer that has Vista.  Have you had that problem, J?  At any rate, I talked with Tom Kimball and he said they&#039;ve contracted to update the CD-Rom, so at some point, we&#039;ll see that reissued.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The New Mormon CD-Rom doesn&#8217;t work on my new computer that has Vista.  Have you had that problem, J?  At any rate, I talked with Tom Kimball and he said they&#8217;ve contracted to update the CD-Rom, so at some point, we&#8217;ll see that reissued.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/06/mormon-studies-on-a-budget/#comment-294623</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Stapley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:09:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, the old edition of &lt;em&gt;Words&lt;/em&gt; is available digitally on the BYU digital archives as a pdf.  Gospelink and LDS Library have the updated 1996 digital second edition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, the old edition of <em>Words</em> is available digitally on the BYU digital archives as a pdf.  Gospelink and LDS Library have the updated 1996 digital second edition.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Stapley</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Stapley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 16:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The New Mormon CD-ROM is excellent for research.  I don&#039;t like to read entire books on the screen though, so typically if there is something that I want to read all the way through, I either buy it or get it from the library.  Gospelink.com is useful but their search interface is miserable (Gospelink 2001 is great if you still have Windows XP).  I used to have LDS Library as well, but it didn&#039;t work with vista and then they went out of business.  I understand that they are back in business with a new product, but I haven&#039;t seen it.

The new edition of &lt;em&gt;Words&lt;/em&gt; is definitely forthcoming.  There will be some tremendous breakthroughs with it, as well.  It is not sure when it will be published as the editors are still waiting on a few things.  Could be as early as the end of this year; could just as easily be another year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The New Mormon CD-ROM is excellent for research.  I don&#8217;t like to read entire books on the screen though, so typically if there is something that I want to read all the way through, I either buy it or get it from the library.  Gospelink.com is useful but their search interface is miserable (Gospelink 2001 is great if you still have Windows XP).  I used to have LDS Library as well, but it didn&#8217;t work with vista and then they went out of business.  I understand that they are back in business with a new product, but I haven&#8217;t seen it.</p>
<p>The new edition of <em>Words</em> is definitely forthcoming.  There will be some tremendous breakthroughs with it, as well.  It is not sure when it will be published as the editors are still waiting on a few things.  Could be as early as the end of this year; could just as easily be another year.</p>
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		<title>By: gomez</title>
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		<dc:creator>gomez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 15:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Stephen. On a somewhat related point I had heard that a new edition of Words of Joseph Smith by Andrew Ehat was due out soon. Does anyone have any more info?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Stephen. On a somewhat related point I had heard that a new edition of Words of Joseph Smith by Andrew Ehat was due out soon. Does anyone have any more info?</p>
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		<title>By: Allison</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 14:37:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a budding historian and no expert.  I truly appreciate the links given to content as I live in the East and lack access to all the libraries in the West.  I&#039;m sure I could find some of the books mentioned in mine or on interlibrary loan.  

But being one that likes to keep books, I have resorted to E-bay and saw no mention of it in the article or comments.  If you research the retail prices on Amazon, then you know if it&#039;s a good deal on the auctions.  I have also picked up great bargains on DeseretBook.com&#039;s auctions.  Just this week I picked up the history of my Mormon colony hometown of Star Valley, entitled &quot;A Garden in Wyoming&quot; on DB auctions for $15!  This out of print is very rare and hard to find and often goes for 3 to 5 times that price with the regular online booksellers.

I wondered also why CD-roms weren&#039;t mentioned.  Gospelink and LDS Library have some great history in them and that might be $50 well spent.  Again, I got my LDS Library brand-new, unopened for 10% less on an online auction.  

I have not purchased the &quot;Daddy of &#039;em all&quot; CD-rom, &quot;New Mormon Studies&quot; with many original sources on it because of its high price (lowest ever seen $125 and more like over $150.)  What say you historians about this one?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a budding historian and no expert.  I truly appreciate the links given to content as I live in the East and lack access to all the libraries in the West.  I&#8217;m sure I could find some of the books mentioned in mine or on interlibrary loan.  </p>
<p>But being one that likes to keep books, I have resorted to E-bay and saw no mention of it in the article or comments.  If you research the retail prices on Amazon, then you know if it&#8217;s a good deal on the auctions.  I have also picked up great bargains on DeseretBook.com&#8217;s auctions.  Just this week I picked up the history of my Mormon colony hometown of Star Valley, entitled &#8220;A Garden in Wyoming&#8221; on DB auctions for $15!  This out of print is very rare and hard to find and often goes for 3 to 5 times that price with the regular online booksellers.</p>
<p>I wondered also why CD-roms weren&#8217;t mentioned.  Gospelink and LDS Library have some great history in them and that might be $50 well spent.  Again, I got my LDS Library brand-new, unopened for 10% less on an online auction.  </p>
<p>I have not purchased the &#8220;Daddy of &#8216;em all&#8221; CD-rom, &#8220;New Mormon Studies&#8221; with many original sources on it because of its high price (lowest ever seen $125 and more like over $150.)  What say you historians about this one?</p>
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