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	<title>Comments on: 12 Questions for Marvin Perkins, Part Two</title>
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		<title>By: Elder Jedin</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/05/12-questions-for-marvin-perkins-part-two/#comment-292764</link>
		<dc:creator>Elder Jedin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 20:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Brother Perkins, I have been reading the answers to Questions Part I and II.  We have the DVD out to a member who is Black and is an exemplary member here with a recommend.  One of her friends is looking at the DVD as well.  The idea to have an Outreach Program with the Bishop&#039;s consent will be discussed with our young Elders and then we&#039;ll approach the Bishop.   Appreciatively, Elder Jedin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Brother Perkins, I have been reading the answers to Questions Part I and II.  We have the DVD out to a member who is Black and is an exemplary member here with a recommend.  One of her friends is looking at the DVD as well.  The idea to have an Outreach Program with the Bishop&#8217;s consent will be discussed with our young Elders and then we&#8217;ll approach the Bishop.   Appreciatively, Elder Jedin</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Welch</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/05/12-questions-for-marvin-perkins-part-two/#comment-292435</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl Welch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 15:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to msg&#039;s comment about the General Authority speaking on this issue. Yes, there is a way, by prayer and fasting. 
I had a concern about abuse, practiced by priesthood holders, and wondered why the Prophet had not spoken out on this and denounced this horrid behavior? That following General Conference, the Lord sealed my faith and testimony of His Church being lead by him. President Hinckley spoke out rebuking all priesthood holders who practiced this. Please keep in mind that the Gospel of Christ is truth. All who listen with humility and practice- line upon line. precept upon precept, will follow God&#039;s plan. Not man&#039;s. This is the weeding out process. &quot;Choose ye this day whom ye shall serve.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to msg&#8217;s comment about the General Authority speaking on this issue. Yes, there is a way, by prayer and fasting.<br />
I had a concern about abuse, practiced by priesthood holders, and wondered why the Prophet had not spoken out on this and denounced this horrid behavior? That following General Conference, the Lord sealed my faith and testimony of His Church being lead by him. President Hinckley spoke out rebuking all priesthood holders who practiced this. Please keep in mind that the Gospel of Christ is truth. All who listen with humility and practice- line upon line. precept upon precept, will follow God&#8217;s plan. Not man&#8217;s. This is the weeding out process. &#8220;Choose ye this day whom ye shall serve.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: msg</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/05/12-questions-for-marvin-perkins-part-two/#comment-292418</link>
		<dc:creator>msg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 05:07:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there a way we can persuade our General Authorities to speak 
about this in General Conference?  I would also like them to specifically address that one can be a good member of the Church and be a Democrat as well.  There&#039;s too much division among the Saints as far as I&#039;m concerned and I think these are
worthy topics for a GA to give a entire talk on--not just touch on it in some talk but a whole talk on the issue.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there a way we can persuade our General Authorities to speak<br />
about this in General Conference?  I would also like them to specifically address that one can be a good member of the Church and be a Democrat as well.  There&#8217;s too much division among the Saints as far as I&#8217;m concerned and I think these are<br />
worthy topics for a GA to give a entire talk on&#8211;not just touch on it in some talk but a whole talk on the issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Amy S</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/05/12-questions-for-marvin-perkins-part-two/#comment-292417</link>
		<dc:creator>Amy S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 04:03:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This was a great post for me. Lots to think about. We only have two black families in our ward, and I have been really dwelling on this subject lately. So many trouble in my heart. I had no idea this resource existed. I cannot wait to pass on the information. 

Thank you very much.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This was a great post for me. Lots to think about. We only have two black families in our ward, and I have been really dwelling on this subject lately. So many trouble in my heart. I had no idea this resource existed. I cannot wait to pass on the information. </p>
<p>Thank you very much.</p>
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		<title>By: David Bohn</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/05/12-questions-for-marvin-perkins-part-two/#comment-292261</link>
		<dc:creator>David Bohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 May 2009 00:01:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Issues involving &quot;the status of ‘Blacks’ in the Kingdom” like many other questions facing members of the Church today reveal what – at the core -- it means to be a follower of Christ. It reminds us that mortality was not meant to be comfortable, nor does  it involve the pursuit of some abstract version of the “truth” designed to satisfy our curiosity for logical puzzles. It is rather a test that challenged us to ‘become like the Father” where our being in the truth in every aspect of how we humbly embrace and respond to the whole of God’s creation. Mortality brings committed believers to not only open up their hearts and souls to the light, but to actually become a “living expression of the true and the good.”

Wrongly addressed, such issues almost inevitably  lead to defensiveness, arrogance, cynicism, the loss of testimony and a self-righteousness and judgmental manner reflecting the desire to win rather than serve. Correctly embraced the same questons can just as easily draw us beyond ourselves to a more genuine understanding and practice of the Lord’s teachings.

What I appreciate about Brother Perkins’ efforts is that they have welcomed the challenge as a way of exploring paths that God has placed before him. He does not avoid the seemingly difficult questions, which would reflect “bad faith,” but rather “positively questions.” At the core of such questioning is not dark, corrosive and self-interested doubt or skepticism, but a desire to explore, as Gadamer points out, “that which is still open to question.” it is an invitation to discover “further light and knowledge.” led by a broken heart and sincere love of the good such faithful questioning believes that God will show us the way, if we open ourselves to the “living truth.” Brother Perkins has pushed aside the temptations of self-pity, victimization and retribution in order to expose a clearer path to a right relationship with God and with His children.  The result is an understanding and a life practice that serves all of us, removing stumbling blocks so that we can similarly “walk in the truth and light” of the Living Gospel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Issues involving &#8220;the status of ‘Blacks’ in the Kingdom” like many other questions facing members of the Church today reveal what – at the core &#8212; it means to be a follower of Christ. It reminds us that mortality was not meant to be comfortable, nor does  it involve the pursuit of some abstract version of the “truth” designed to satisfy our curiosity for logical puzzles. It is rather a test that challenged us to ‘become like the Father” where our being in the truth in every aspect of how we humbly embrace and respond to the whole of God’s creation. Mortality brings committed believers to not only open up their hearts and souls to the light, but to actually become a “living expression of the true and the good.”</p>
<p>Wrongly addressed, such issues almost inevitably  lead to defensiveness, arrogance, cynicism, the loss of testimony and a self-righteousness and judgmental manner reflecting the desire to win rather than serve. Correctly embraced the same questons can just as easily draw us beyond ourselves to a more genuine understanding and practice of the Lord’s teachings.</p>
<p>What I appreciate about Brother Perkins’ efforts is that they have welcomed the challenge as a way of exploring paths that God has placed before him. He does not avoid the seemingly difficult questions, which would reflect “bad faith,” but rather “positively questions.” At the core of such questioning is not dark, corrosive and self-interested doubt or skepticism, but a desire to explore, as Gadamer points out, “that which is still open to question.” it is an invitation to discover “further light and knowledge.” led by a broken heart and sincere love of the good such faithful questioning believes that God will show us the way, if we open ourselves to the “living truth.” Brother Perkins has pushed aside the temptations of self-pity, victimization and retribution in order to expose a clearer path to a right relationship with God and with His children.  The result is an understanding and a life practice that serves all of us, removing stumbling blocks so that we can similarly “walk in the truth and light” of the Living Gospel.</p>
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		<title>By: synnove ellingsen</title>
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		<dc:creator>synnove ellingsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 16:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,
I have followed the information Marvin perkins has sent out through his links. I think it is all good and I hope now the new seventy in the church especially will get into this information and that it may be also spead generally through leaders..for example an indtoductory statement from the Brethren on this matter, now it is tried and tested.
I think a great job has been done here, and it is time more and easily accessible structure is set up to integrate it into the church programs on Sunday as well as more firesides spread all over the world. And to become a standard information for missionaries, not in its full content, but a kit for being used, and adapted to church programs&#039; template. (Short in some programs longer more in depth in others.
Also I would like the brethren comment on this somehow. It is all good, and I feel it should also be recognised more generally to all.
Have a NICE weekend.
Synnove Ellingsen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,<br />
I have followed the information Marvin perkins has sent out through his links. I think it is all good and I hope now the new seventy in the church especially will get into this information and that it may be also spead generally through leaders..for example an indtoductory statement from the Brethren on this matter, now it is tried and tested.<br />
I think a great job has been done here, and it is time more and easily accessible structure is set up to integrate it into the church programs on Sunday as well as more firesides spread all over the world. And to become a standard information for missionaries, not in its full content, but a kit for being used, and adapted to church programs&#8217; template. (Short in some programs longer more in depth in others.<br />
Also I would like the brethren comment on this somehow. It is all good, and I feel it should also be recognised more generally to all.<br />
Have a NICE weekend.<br />
Synnove Ellingsen</p>
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		<title>By: Cheryl Welch</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/05/12-questions-for-marvin-perkins-part-two/#comment-292218</link>
		<dc:creator>Cheryl Welch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 15:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I am also a black female who has been a member for over 25 years. I have raised my three children to know and to love Heavenly Father and the Lord.

I had been faced with the ignorance that Marvin speaks of; if you are black, so have you to some degree. But because we joined the Church because of our love for Heavenly Father and the Lord, we have been blessed to overcome this ingorance because of our faith in them.

&quot;Where much is given, much is required&quot;.

The time is now that all faithful men and women to learn and humble themselves before the Lord and his words and to teach with that same humility.

Thank you Marvin, Darius, and Bishop Bethel for giving that what is required because that which was given unto you.

I love you all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. I am also a black female who has been a member for over 25 years. I have raised my three children to know and to love Heavenly Father and the Lord.</p>
<p>I had been faced with the ignorance that Marvin speaks of; if you are black, so have you to some degree. But because we joined the Church because of our love for Heavenly Father and the Lord, we have been blessed to overcome this ingorance because of our faith in them.</p>
<p>&#8220;Where much is given, much is required&#8221;.</p>
<p>The time is now that all faithful men and women to learn and humble themselves before the Lord and his words and to teach with that same humility.</p>
<p>Thank you Marvin, Darius, and Bishop Bethel for giving that what is required because that which was given unto you.</p>
<p>I love you all.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Ellsworth</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/05/12-questions-for-marvin-perkins-part-two/#comment-292194</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan Ellsworth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 00:26:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A note to brother Perkins:

A few years ago, a black missionary in my ward came over for dinner and at one point he pulled me aside and confided that he was really struggling with things he had heard surrounding the priesthood ban.  He was distraught to the point that he was losing his faith and was likely to leave his mission.  He asked if I had any answers beyond what he had heard, and I printed off a copy of one of your talks from the FAIR website and gave it to him.  He took it home and read it, and the next time I saw him, he was absolutely radiant.  He told me he had read the talk over and over again, and was keeping it at his bedside to read almost nightly.  He stayed in the faith and stayed on his mission, and he was a fantastic missionary in our area.

Thank you for what you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A note to brother Perkins:</p>
<p>A few years ago, a black missionary in my ward came over for dinner and at one point he pulled me aside and confided that he was really struggling with things he had heard surrounding the priesthood ban.  He was distraught to the point that he was losing his faith and was likely to leave his mission.  He asked if I had any answers beyond what he had heard, and I printed off a copy of one of your talks from the FAIR website and gave it to him.  He took it home and read it, and the next time I saw him, he was absolutely radiant.  He told me he had read the talk over and over again, and was keeping it at his bedside to read almost nightly.  He stayed in the faith and stayed on his mission, and he was a fantastic missionary in our area.</p>
<p>Thank you for what you do.</p>
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		<title>By: DavidH</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/05/12-questions-for-marvin-perkins-part-two/#comment-292190</link>
		<dc:creator>DavidH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 22:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that our Church continues to have a problem with respect to perception in the African-American community.  I also agree that white anglo U.S. LDS, as a group, have not been as welcoming and supportive of African-Americans who investigate or join the Church as we could be.  As my parents pointed out a few years ago in a letter to their stake presidency, many African-Americans felt tolerated by the predominant white anglo LDS community in the stake, but not embraced.  I think that was true where they lived, in a mid-Atlantic state, and has been true in other places where I have resided.

I am hopeful that one day clear official statements will be made disavowing racist teachings previously taught by some Church leaders.  I think there are a couple of things in the way: 1.  such a disavowal might remind members that Church leaders are fallible in their individual teachings--which might undermine loyalty, and 2. I doubt there is unanimity among the Brethren as to which of the previous teachings were in error and which were correct.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that our Church continues to have a problem with respect to perception in the African-American community.  I also agree that white anglo U.S. LDS, as a group, have not been as welcoming and supportive of African-Americans who investigate or join the Church as we could be.  As my parents pointed out a few years ago in a letter to their stake presidency, many African-Americans felt tolerated by the predominant white anglo LDS community in the stake, but not embraced.  I think that was true where they lived, in a mid-Atlantic state, and has been true in other places where I have resided.</p>
<p>I am hopeful that one day clear official statements will be made disavowing racist teachings previously taught by some Church leaders.  I think there are a couple of things in the way: 1.  such a disavowal might remind members that Church leaders are fallible in their individual teachings&#8211;which might undermine loyalty, and 2. I doubt there is unanimity among the Brethren as to which of the previous teachings were in error and which were correct.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/05/12-questions-for-marvin-perkins-part-two/#comment-292177</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 19:10:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s very refreshing to talk about these important subjects.  Thanks to Mr. Perkins for sharing your wealth of experience and knowledge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s very refreshing to talk about these important subjects.  Thanks to Mr. Perkins for sharing your wealth of experience and knowledge.</p>
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