Comments on: The New Era 2.0 http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/01/the-new-era-20/ Truth Will Prevail Fri, 25 May 2012 03:45:22 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Robin http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/01/the-new-era-20/#comment-283457 Robin Tue, 13 Jan 2009 01:51:15 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=5157#comment-283457 I am serving in my third YW Presidency, two which were in the inner city and one in the country. With a background in communications and television news, I agree the church is passed due on getting up to speed with the media and utilizing its power for good - I connect quicker with my youth through facebook in a given day than any other method - however, that DVD is not in touch with the three different groups of youth I have worked with. It would only go over well with my beehives and that is it. It was too fake-Disney Channel/High School Musical-ish. I was very disappointed after all the hype that that was what we received. We (both YM/YW leaders) are still undecided on how or if we will use this DVD. I am serving in my third YW Presidency, two which were in the inner city and one in the country. With a background in communications and television news, I agree the church is passed due on getting up to speed with the media and utilizing its power for good – I connect quicker with my youth through facebook in a given day than any other method – however, that DVD is not in touch with the three different groups of youth I have worked with. It would only go over well with my beehives and that is it. It was too fake-Disney Channel/High School Musical-ish. I was very disappointed after all the hype that that was what we received. We (both YM/YW leaders) are still undecided on how or if we will use this DVD.

]]> By: claire http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/01/the-new-era-20/#comment-282968 claire Tue, 06 Jan 2009 02:29:52 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=5157#comment-282968 #63 re: the spirit. I actually am not convinced that having wholesome fun is The Spirit. Or meeting some fun kids at a stake dance is The Spirit. I suppose those warm, fun feelings could be described as something like the spirit of fellowship, etc. But far beyond the hokey cheese factor, I think the most unsettling thing was the many times this idea was reinforced to the youth. #63 re: the spirit.

I actually am not convinced that having wholesome fun is The Spirit. Or meeting some fun kids at a stake dance is The Spirit. I suppose those warm, fun feelings could be described as something like the spirit of fellowship, etc. But far beyond the hokey cheese factor, I think the most unsettling thing was the many times this idea was reinforced to the youth.

]]> By: Glen Dutcher http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/01/the-new-era-20/#comment-282835 Glen Dutcher Mon, 05 Jan 2009 12:26:23 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=5157#comment-282835 #30. Your (and my former) cult began looking cultish long before cheesy dvd's came along. #30. Your (and my former) cult began looking cultish long before cheesy dvd’s came along.

]]> By: Andrew http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/01/the-new-era-20/#comment-282796 Andrew Mon, 05 Jan 2009 03:25:49 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=5157#comment-282796 Ok, we just watched this for a fireside in my stake. The youth were underwhelmed. One of the kids leaned over to me and said, "this is like 'High School Musical' in church." As for whether or not "it works," I'm sure it will speak to the youth who are already very active and involved. But the youth who are on the fence or in danger of going in active, I have a hard time believing that it will appeal to them. The whole thing was bizarre. There was definitely a megachurch vibe to it. Ok, we just watched this for a fireside in my stake.

The youth were underwhelmed. One of the kids leaned over to me and said, “this is like ‘High School Musical’ in church.”

As for whether or not “it works,” I’m sure it will speak to the youth who are already very active and involved. But the youth who are on the fence or in danger of going in active, I have a hard time believing that it will appeal to them.

The whole thing was bizarre. There was definitely a megachurch vibe to it.

]]> By: willf http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/01/the-new-era-20/#comment-282769 willf Sun, 04 Jan 2009 23:41:49 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=5157#comment-282769 #60 - Rock Band and Guitar Hero... I'll never understand the fascination with spending hours learning to play a pseudo-musical-instrument when people could actually learn invest their time learning to really play a musical instrument. Maybe it will at least be a gateway drug for some people to get them interested in the real thing. #60 – Rock Band and Guitar Hero… I’ll never understand the fascination with spending hours learning to play a pseudo-musical-instrument when people could actually learn invest their time learning to really play a musical instrument. Maybe it will at least be a gateway drug for some people to get them interested in the real thing.

]]> By: Craig M. http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/01/the-new-era-20/#comment-282750 Craig M. Sun, 04 Jan 2009 19:06:46 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=5157#comment-282750 I'm a frequent lurker and just read this thread. Is it being moderated? Some of these comments seem unusual for a T&S discussion. Hopefully the moderators will take a second look and a few of these posts. I’m a frequent lurker and just read this thread. Is it being moderated? Some of these comments seem unusual for a T&S discussion. Hopefully the moderators will take a second look and a few of these posts.

]]> By: Ayman al-Zawahiri http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/01/the-new-era-20/#comment-282747 Ayman al-Zawahiri Sun, 04 Jan 2009 18:03:30 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=5157#comment-282747 #25: Long time no see! I always suspected you were a T&S lurker. #25:
Long time no see! I always suspected you were a T&S lurker.

]]> By: Cameron http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/01/the-new-era-20/#comment-282745 Cameron Sun, 04 Jan 2009 17:40:21 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=5157#comment-282745 I think some of you are too worried about certain aspects of teenagers growing up. As a teenager I experienced all of these hokey things, but I could not deny the Spirit. If the Spirit confirms things to them, and they eventually act on those confirmations, they'll be fine in spite of all the silly stuff. I think some of you are too worried about certain aspects of teenagers growing up. As a teenager I experienced all of these hokey things, but I could not deny the Spirit. If the Spirit confirms things to them, and they eventually act on those confirmations, they’ll be fine in spite of all the silly stuff.

]]> By: Billy Destura http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/01/the-new-era-20/#comment-282731 Billy Destura Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:01:23 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=5157#comment-282731 Hopefully the youth realize this is NOT the best the Church has to offer. It is simply a means to an end, an appetizer. The best the Church has to offer is the pure gospel of Christ, as found in the standard works and the words of living prophets. If this website brings the stragglers into the camp and they can find the true banquet table on their own, it is a good idea in the long run. Like J. Reuben Clark said, we don't have to whisper religion in the youth's ears. The kids want it strait up, undiluted. I can appreciate why some youth were turned off by the production. Not all LDS youth need to be entertained while being edified. I was certainly that way as a teenager. There were occasions where I rolled my eyes at certain EFY gimmicks and CES personell acting like stand up comedians instead of teachers of the gospel. Hopefully the youth realize this is NOT the best the Church has to offer. It is simply a means to an end, an appetizer. The best the Church has to offer is the pure gospel of Christ, as found in the standard works and the words of living prophets. If this website brings the stragglers into the camp and they can find the true banquet table on their own, it is a good idea in the long run.

Like J. Reuben Clark said, we don’t have to whisper religion in the youth’s ears. The kids want it strait up, undiluted. I can appreciate why some youth were turned off by the production. Not all LDS youth need to be entertained while being edified. I was certainly that way as a teenager. There were occasions where I rolled my eyes at certain EFY gimmicks and CES personell acting like stand up comedians instead of teachers of the gospel.

]]> By: BronwynJT http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2009/01/the-new-era-20/#comment-282728 BronwynJT Sun, 04 Jan 2009 12:38:35 +0000 http://timesandseasons.org/?p=5157#comment-282728 I'm confused about J A Benson's post #55. What did Victor say that was so over the top? Was it another poster, perhaps, that she meant to excoriate? I’m confused about J A Benson’s post #55. What did Victor say that was so over the top? Was it another poster, perhaps, that she meant to excoriate?

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