Notes From All Over

December 12, 2008 | 13 comments

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13 Responses to Notes From All Over

  1. Rob Perkins on December 12, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    That law review article (in was appalling. Apply 501(h) tax code structures to an org which has not explicitly elected it? More importantly, which is statutorily prohibited from electing it?

    Valuate a mailing list based on activity the Church is already explicitly prohibited from doing, or at the very least has always been opposed to doing as a matter of decades-long policy?

    I could go on for a long, long time about the fallacy (slippery slope on a pile of red herring, mostly) in that article, but I won’t bore.

  2. Adam Greenwood on December 12, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    It read like an advocacy piece, you’re right about that.

  3. ed johnson on December 12, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    I’m not a lawyer, but I also read the law review article, and I agree that it seemed very weak. He did very little to consider the obvious opposing arguments. I was kind of surprised it is being published in what I presume is a fairly good law review.

  4. gst on December 12, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    You overestimate the rigor of even good law reviews.

  5. Stephen M (Ethesis) on December 12, 2008 at 8:06 pm

    Congress might want to remember all this as it debates infrastructure funding in the coming months. An edifice complex seems more likely to petrify a country than to move it forward.

    Amity Shlaes

    That was interesting. … and the growing ability to despise the press.

  6. Marc Bohn on December 12, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    Virginia man convicted in missionary’s murder: Justice.

    Mormons storming Hollywood: The screenwriter for “Milk” is a disaffected Mormon?!

    Sharpie is the new black: This place rules.

    If this is wrong under the Constitution, change the Constitution: Amen.

    Intact families are best, but is it nature or nurture?: The cited statistics here don’t seem directly relevant to the gay marriage debate since they don’t include statistics related to the children of “intact” gay couples (say, that defines an “intact” gay couple as one in either a civil union or gay marriage and that raises a child from birth).

    BYU Rehangs Photo Exhibit of Gay Students: Ridiculous. Do you think they try to think what the worst PR move in the entire world would be before deciding to go ahead and take an exhibit like this down?

    Romney begins to rev’ his campaign 2012 engine: Can’t y’all wait two years before getting on this merry-go-round? Puleassseeee….

    Go to jail. Go directly to jail. Do not pass Go. Do not go to the United States Senate: Throw the book at him.

    Washington Post spotlights Governor Huntsman: A brewing rivalry between Huntsman and Romney sounds kind of intriguing.

    Religious land use case likely brewing in D.C.: If this goes to trial, Church has a slam-dunk RLUIPA case.

    Mourners remember Elder Wirthlin: I feel happy knowing you’re back with your beloved Elisa.

    Kaimi sounds off to Peggy Fletcher Stack on possible new apostles: Speculation at its finest.

    The knife cuts both ways: Indeed it does.

    Rolling Stone on Prop 8: “Don’t blame Mormons or black voters”: Here here. Don’t blame the Church for your failure to organize.

    No To Mob Veto: Like people standing up for us, but I’m not sure the sporadic excesses of prop 8 opponents are quite equal to a “mob”

    Former BYU QB Steve Sarkisian reportedly offered the head coaching job at the University of Washington: Go Sark!

    Progressive student think tank established at BYU: Part of me thinks that a “progressive” think tank at the Y is likely to leave most progressives elsewhere wanting.

    Prop 8… the musical: Err…. did they seriously think this was funny when they were filming this?

  7. Stephen M (Ethesis) on December 12, 2008 at 8:24 pm

    Well, Northwestern’s law review appears to be dropping into the bottom 1%.

    n june 2005, the child-murderer and law student Magnus Gäfgen lodged a complaint against Germany with the European Court of Human Rights (echr). In his complaint, Gäfgen accused Germany of having violated his rights under the European Convention on Human Rights and, more specifically, of having violated the prohibition on torture contained in Article 3 of the Convention.

    On June 30, 2008, the European Court of Human Rights rejected Gäfgen’s complaint and cleared Germany of the charge of tolerating torture.3 The Court found that the treatment to which Daschner and Ennigkeit subjected Gäfgen did not reach the threshold required to be considered as torture

    Typical for Europe according to a lecture by a law professor and a police officer who also worked in Europe about how if you talk with the police, you will always end up confessing.

    My wife liked the Sharpie art, but wondered about how hard it would be to paint over.

    Thanks, this was a great collection.

  8. Alison Moore Smith on December 13, 2008 at 4:05 am

    “Cognitive elite”? Wow. Thanks.

  9. Jeremiah J. on December 13, 2008 at 6:42 am

    Amity Shlaes makes the somewhat useful observation that not all stimulus schemes have worked. Her only argument why they haven’t worked seems pretty silly, though. Apparently Japanese consumers were “appalled by record deficits and closed their wallets”. The rest of the column is more extended metaphor than explanation. Beware the cement pit!

    Rolling Stone on Prop 8: “Don’t blame Mormons or black voters”:
    What an odd claim; or maybe it’s just a really condescending claim. Some Mormons worked for Prop 8, allegedly in a competent way. Some gays worked against it, allegedly in an incompetent way. If politics is mainly a competition between groups of activists to see how many dull minds they can sway and warm bodies they can mobilize, then I guess a poorly played game deserves blame. But if we’re really *blaming* sides for the result, then we’re recognizing that one possible outcome was right and the other wrong. In which case your preference matters more than how well you fought for it. I think Mormons and blacks do indeed deserve much credit for Prop 8.

  10. Austin F. on December 13, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    Wow, I haven’t been here for awhile, and by the looks of things, I’m not alone in my apathy toward timesandseasons. Come on guys, you used to be the best blog on the Bloggernacle. Get with the program….I sometimes have to wander to RfM just to read something interesting.

  11. California Roland on December 14, 2008 at 3:05 am

    > Intact families are best, but is it nature or nurture?: The cited statistics here don’t seem directly relevant to the gay marriage debate since they don’t include statistics related to the children of “intact” gay couples (say, that defines an “intact” gay couple as one in either a civil union or gay marriage and that raises a child from birth).

    One of the main criticisms is that gay couples have a much higher incidence of not staying truly “intact”. They have a higher rate of both cheating and breaking up – regardless of it is a marriage, union or (more commonly) the one night stand.

    Real Family Values would advocate for an intact couple that provides a good role of how a family functions best with a daddy and a mommy.

  12. Marc on December 14, 2008 at 6:09 pm

    California Roland: Can you direct me to any statistics or studies which bolster your claims? I’d be curious to see how the break-up rates for those gay and lesbian couples who have entered into civil unions or marriages stack up against the divorce rates. I’d also be interested in seeing what evidence you’re relying on to make the claim about rates of cheating.

  13. Adam Greenwood on December 15, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    Awesome, Marc Bohn.

    Alison Moore Smith, congratulations! From now on, whenever I sneer about the elites in my posts, you can feel personally attacked!


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