Comments on: The Fall Makes Righteous Pride Possible http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/11/the-fall-makes-righteous-pride-possible/ Truth Will Prevail Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:57:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Adam Greenwood http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/11/the-fall-makes-righteous-pride-possible/#comment-278280 Adam Greenwood Fri, 07 Nov 2008 22:00:57 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4842#comment-278280 I don't think the gospel has much room for 'by default.' For example, the scriptures suggest that we will only have a perfect knowledge of our happiness because we had passed through sorrow. I don’t think the gospel has much room for ‘by default.’ For example, the scriptures suggest that we will only have a perfect knowledge of our happiness because we had passed through sorrow.

]]> By: quin http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/11/the-fall-makes-righteous-pride-possible/#comment-277570 quin Tue, 04 Nov 2008 01:27:25 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4842#comment-277570 The question was not "Do you think immortal Gods need something to compare themselves to?" because I have no doubt that immortal Gods will HAVE things to contrast against-the question was do you really think that such beings will "feel the need" to compare? Wouldn't a perfect being have a perfect knowledge of his/her own perfection by default? The question was not “Do you think immortal Gods need something to compare themselves to?” because I have no doubt that immortal Gods will HAVE things to contrast against-the question was do you really think that such beings will “feel the need” to compare? Wouldn’t a perfect being have a perfect knowledge of his/her own perfection by default?

]]> By: Adam Greenwood http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/11/the-fall-makes-righteous-pride-possible/#comment-277248 Adam Greenwood Sun, 02 Nov 2008 04:39:51 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4842#comment-277248 "rehabilitate the song “I’m Proud to Be an American.”" Rehabilitation unnecessary. "Do you really think that “immortal Gods” will feel the need to compare themselves to anything or anyone" Yes. I don't think knowledge of anything is fully possible without something to contrast it against. “rehabilitate the song “I’m Proud to Be an American.””

Rehabilitation unnecessary.

“Do you really think that “immortal Gods” will feel the need to compare themselves to anything or anyone”

Yes. I don’t think knowledge of anything is fully possible without something to contrast it against.

]]> By: Phouchg http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/11/the-fall-makes-righteous-pride-possible/#comment-277237 Phouchg Sat, 01 Nov 2008 23:58:25 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4842#comment-277237 I am almost at the point where I can't read LDS blogs until late November...quite a few are becoming rather unhinged. I am almost at the point where I can’t read LDS blogs until late November…quite a few are becoming rather unhinged.

]]> By: Seth R. http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/11/the-fall-makes-righteous-pride-possible/#comment-277228 Seth R. Sat, 01 Nov 2008 19:52:07 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4842#comment-277228 Admit it Adam, This whole post is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to rehabilitate the song "I'm Proud to Be an American." Dude, some things are just beyond redemption. Time for healing. Admit it Adam,

This whole post is nothing more than a thinly veiled attempt to rehabilitate the song “I’m Proud to Be an American.”

Dude, some things are just beyond redemption. Time for healing.

]]> By: quin http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/11/the-fall-makes-righteous-pride-possible/#comment-277227 quin Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:51:12 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4842#comment-277227 The natural man may be hungry for status-but those who truly understand what it means to be righteous and redeemed should not be. 1-Since animals and plants fulfill the measure of their creation without sinning, it could be viewed that they are superior to those who require redemption because of sin. The earth is assured celestial glory-but all of God's children are not. 2-Children under the age of 8 cannot sin and would likely inherit a higher kingdom than their parents if they were to die. Aren't children older than 8 who have repented fully for any sins committed considered to have the same "status" as a grown adult who has fully repented? Do you really think that "immortal Gods" will feel the need to compare themselves to anything or anyone-or thirst after status? If our mortal filth has been washed away and "forgotten" by both us and God, and we have achieved all that our Father and Christ have-then the filth of this world will be what failed not us. It will have failed to prevent us from obtaining the only status that truly matters-oneness with God and eternal life in His presence. The natural man may be hungry for status-but those who truly understand what it means to be righteous and redeemed should not be.

1-Since animals and plants fulfill the measure of their creation without sinning, it could be viewed that they are superior to those who require redemption because of sin. The earth is assured celestial glory-but all of God’s children are not.
2-Children under the age of 8 cannot sin and would likely inherit a higher kingdom than their parents if they were to die. Aren’t children older than 8 who have repented fully for any sins committed considered to have the same “status” as a grown adult who has fully repented?

Do you really think that “immortal Gods” will feel the need to compare themselves to anything or anyone-or thirst after status? If our mortal filth has been washed away and “forgotten” by both us and God, and we have achieved all that our Father and Christ have-then the filth of this world will be what failed not us. It will have failed to prevent us from obtaining the only status that truly matters-oneness with God and eternal life in His presence.

]]> By: Peter LLC http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/11/the-fall-makes-righteous-pride-possible/#comment-277225 Peter LLC Sat, 01 Nov 2008 18:02:13 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4842#comment-277225 <i>We will have our own failings to compare ourselves to, our mortal filth before the God redeemed us and raised us up.</i> So the further we fall, the greater our redemption? We will have our own failings to compare ourselves to, our mortal filth before the God redeemed us and raised us up.

So the further we fall, the greater our redemption?

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