Go Cougars!

November 21, 2008 | 29 comments

To any Ute fans who may make their way here:

1. Congratulations! Its been a long, hard road for you, figuring out this internet thing, but its worth it!

2. Phhhbbtt.

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29 Responses to Go Cougars!

  1. Adam Greenwood on November 21, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Because of my sympathy for their misfortune, I will not be editing the comments of Ute fans. Except for a few ‘improvements.’

  2. Kent (MC) on November 21, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    Q: What’s the difference between BYU fans and a litter of puppies?

    A: Eventually, the litter of puppies grows up and stops whining.

  3. Kent (MC) on November 21, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    I am a BYU grad and an avid BYU football fan, but you have to admit that you would also like to drown that 10% of fans that give all of us a bad name. Call it a form of tithing, let the Lord have ‘em back.

  4. Mark B. on November 21, 2008 at 8:39 pm

    Max Hall, he’s our 7/24 guy!

  5. Bob on November 21, 2008 at 9:42 pm

    Beat UTEP!

  6. Brian Duffin on November 23, 2008 at 4:58 am

    Go Cougars indeed! Down in flames…

    Go UTES, Mountain West Champs!! 12-0!!

  7. queuno on November 23, 2008 at 10:16 am

    Utah fans have nothing on Cougar fans in lack of class. I was at Cougar Stadium in the 90s, when students were throwing drinks at Utah cheerleaders.

  8. Ryan S. on November 23, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    I guess the Y football team’s “quest for perfection” ended a little short. Maybe now Bronco will stop quoting scripture at press conferences and embarrassing us all. But probably not.

    I join queuno is witnessing the personal attacks from cougar fans. I like to cheer on the utes as much as the next guy, but I don’t make it personal (“byu football sucks” v. “you are an idiot for cheeirng for such a crappy team”). The responses from the noisy set always (especially in LaVell Edwards stadium) was a vicious attack on my personal righteouness or intellect. It was as sure to happen as the opening prayer before the game.

  9. Dale on November 23, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    10-2 is no embarrassment. 5 interceptions and a fumble are embarrassing. Bronco can say what he wants, with a .730 winning percentage, he wins more than LaVell did (.718). Ute fans and Cougar fans are equal in the sight of God, and frankly there are plenty of good and bad eggs on each side of the fence and you know its true. So here’s an invitation to everyone to start their own ‘quest,’ starting with treating others decent.

  10. queuno on November 23, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    (And lest anyone think I’m a U homer — I graduated from BYU Class of 1996. I saw worse behavior from BYU fans at Cougar Stadium that I have in some other major college stadiums. The fans at TCU last month were actually quite pleasant after they destroyed us. Not so from Cougar fans in the 90s).

    There was a comment on a Cougar mailing list last night how this was a “rebuilding” year. Uh, not when you put “quest for perfection” on a tee-shirt.

    It’s just becoming so difficult to consider BYU football anything more than nice minor-league football. How much institutional energy is wasted at BYU in pursuit of football flame and glory? We should go the route of the Ivy League… I don’t think even think there’s much missionary value anymore in BYU football…

  11. CTJ on November 23, 2008 at 11:55 pm

    I guess if you do the right things off the field, amazing things can happen on the field.


  12. Jon in Austin on November 24, 2008 at 1:11 am

    “I don’t think even think there’s much missionary value ever in BYU football…”

    Fixed it for you.

    Go Utes.

  13. Jon in Austin on November 24, 2008 at 1:18 am

    Minus the grammar.

  14. Hans on November 24, 2008 at 3:08 am

    “You’ve gotta be a football hero, to get along with the beautiful girls…”

    Go Utes!

  15. Scott Fife on November 24, 2008 at 9:23 am

    “Quest for perfection” comes from the first sentence of the BYU Mission Statement.

    Come on people. BYU is our church school. BYU’s president is a general authority. The chairman of the Board of Trustees is President Monson, and the other board members are primarily members of the Quorum of the Twelve. Every BYU diploma has the signature of the President of the Church. A significant percent of BYU tuition costs are funded by tithing. In other words, all tithe payers help support BYU. These are facts. It doesn’t mean that BYU is better than any other school, it just means that it is OUR church school, that we help fund. (As well as BYU Idaho, BYU Hawaii, and LDS Business College.) We should all take great satisfaction in BYU and the unique atmosphere and education offered there, and for that matter all the LDS Institutes as well.

    For Mormons to hate their church school because of sports or for any reason, is just plain silly, childish, and very sad.

    Go Utes, Aggies, etc, etc, AND Cougars! It’s OK to cheer for more than one school.

  16. Adam Greenwood on November 24, 2008 at 9:52 am

    In all fairness, the Ute commenters and the Anti-Cougar Cougar commenters were originally keen and clever and full of fun. I edited a lot to to make them look like they had dishwater minds and greasewood souls.

  17. WMP on November 24, 2008 at 2:35 pm

    I don’t think that striving for perfection is a bad thing. It’s not as if the Cougs weren’t capable of it (even if they fell short). I’ve never heard a college football coach come out and say “we’re aiming for 10-2 this year” or “we will be satisfied if we only have a small handful of losses.” Bronco challenged his team. The expectations weren’t unreasonable. Can’t fault them for trying.

    Congrats Ute fans on a great regular season. I’ll be rooting for you against Cincinnati.

  18. Mark B. on November 24, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    Go Utes, Aggies, etc, etc, AND Cougars! It’s OK to cheer for more than one school.

    Is it OK to root against all of them?

  19. Adam Greenwood on November 24, 2008 at 3:33 pm


  20. Kent G. Budge on November 25, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    In my opinion, big sports programs have no place in academia.

    I don’t think either BYU or Utah are the epitome of bad behavior by fans. I’d have to give that award to Stanford, with their polygamy skit at a BYU game a while back.

  21. NJ Mormon on November 25, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    Anecdotal evidence is always very limited. However, my experience has been that BYU fans are a lot less nasty than the average college football fan.

    I worked in television and attended many games all over the intermountain west. Not only did I feel that BYU fans were tame by comparison, but, after one bowl game of which BYU was a part, many of the other workers (who came from all over, none of whom were either Mormon or Utahn) commented on how much better-behaved the BYU fans were.

    Take it for what you will, but whining, on either side, is rather ludicrous.

    With regard to the “missionary value” of the football program, I think Ty Detmer and James Dye (among others) would like to comment…

  22. Rob Perkins on November 25, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    “For Mormons to hate their church school because of sports or for any reason, is just plain silly, childish, and very sad.”

    I have significant and compelling reasons to criticize the way BYU is operated. When I think of the teeming millions of dollars devoted to that silly game, and how a professor confided in me that he might not be able to squeeze $300 out of his operating funds for a year’s worth of casting analysis software for any number of MET students, I believe I have the right to wonder loudly and impetuously where the school’s priorities are. Or at the very least where the priorities of the alumni have gone off to. And I say this as a currently enrolled student (albeit at a distance; BYU has what I think is an excellent degree completion program for half-finished people like me.)

    And I am entertained, not a little bit bitterly, every single time I look, at the fact that the top 10 browsed stories on the Deseret News and SL Trib websites seem to be 80% about BYU or U of U sports.

  23. Adam Greenwood on November 25, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    Lighten up, Francis.


    NJ, in my experience TCU, USC, ND, and BYU fans are class acts. Of other fandoms I speak not.

  24. christoperh j on November 28, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    I’m glad that the MWC did so well this year. Obama is going to bust the BCS oligarchy!

  25. Jim F on November 28, 2008 at 7:23 pm

    #15: It is my understanding that tithing money is no longer used to support BYU. A good development.

    #22: I’m not a sports fan, so I have no reason to want to see any money at all go to the sports teams. But the sports teams raise their own money, through contributions, television, etc. They don’t get money from the budget allocated to BYU by the Church. So, though the contributions of alumni might move to educational programs, I doubt it. There is even, I believe, some evidence that people who give to teams tend also to give to the university. If that is true, then the end of the teams they give to might mean fewer contributions to the educational programs rather than more. In any case, MET and philosophy don’t evoke the kinds of emotion that team spirit does, so they aren’t going to be able to get the same kinds of contributions. Besides, MET is a pretty well-funded program, all things considered.

  26. Mark B. on November 28, 2008 at 7:42 pm

    #25: Really? Did you mean tithing money is no longer used to support BYU, or just the minor-league sports teams that carry the BYU name?

  27. Scott Fife on November 29, 2008 at 3:14 am

    #25: On the BYU web site, it states that a “significant portion of university operating costs are paid with the tithes of Church members.” This is why tuition costs for LDS members attending BYU are about half what non-members pay.

  28. Jim F on November 29, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    #27: I stand corrected about the tithing. There’s no question that the Church contributes a significant portion of the funds for BYU, but I had heard that tithing funds were no longer used for that. Looks like I heard wrong.

  29. Pissmire on December 12, 2008 at 2:00 am

    Any team that barely beat the Huskies this year was a confirmed pretender.


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