The following is making the email rounds with lightning speed. It claims to be talk given recently by President Packer. Can anyone confirm or deny?
President Boyd K. Packer, President of the Quorum of the Twelve
Speaking at the Forest Bend Ward, Salt Lake City UT Sunday, October
“Even though I regularly have the opportunity to attend Fast and
Testimony meeting, I don’t usually stand to speak. But today, I feel
moved upon by the Spirit to share a messageâ€¦
Last weekend’s General Conference was different than any before. We
felt that down at Church Headquarters and have been talking about it
all week. We live in troubled times. There is great financial crisis
and we’ve seen something that hasn’t happened in the last 60 years:
the world’s financial markets are collapsing. I was six years old
when the Great Depression began: the 10th of 11 children. My father
was a mechanic and times were difficult for all of us. Many families
were suddenly out of work all at once. There were large public
projects to try and provide employment â€“ like the great ditch or
canal I remember being dug here in our city. It was at least six feet
deep and dug by hand, with pick and ax. Nowadays, we’d use a piece of
machinery to do it. But in those days, people worked with what we
had. They were desperate times for many. There were things as a child
that I didn’t understand and was afraid of. I didn’t like to go
into the basement of our home. I thought the Boogeyman lived there.
But as I grew older and we got some lights down there, I realized
that the great dark space underneath the stairs was a large pile of
old shoes. As a pair of shoes we were wearing would wear out or break
down, we didn’t throw them out. We would use a shoe from that old
pile as spare parts to repair our shoes or make new ones. It was just
the way you did things in those times.
There’s a scripture that says “Yet learn we obedience by the same
things we suffer.” It seems sometimes that we don’t learn until we
need to turn and rely upon the Lord. In the Book of Mormon, well, if
you looked in my copy, in the Book of Helaman about chapter 12 or 13,
you’d see that I’ve written-in a swirling chain of circles across the
top of the page. It might look like old cursive, but that’s not what
it’s meant to be. It’s meant to remind me of the cycles of the
people. In times when they were blessed with great prosperity and
wealth, they forgot the Lord.
Then when they fell to bad habits which led some to wickedness and
placed many in peril, the righteous would turn/return to the Lord in
their humbler circumstances. It’s a cycle of prosperity and
wickedness we see repeated over and over again in the scriptures and
now again in our day.
I remember once I went deer hunting with Brother Tuttle and some
others. We were up in the mountains, riding on horseback. He went up
one side of the canyon, and I went up the other. As I was riding, I
bent over and just nearly kissed the saddle horn as we passed a low
cedar tree that was right by the path. Well as we passed the cedar
tree, there was no more path on the other side of it and the way
before us was just a dropping hillside covered with loose shaley
rock. I kicked my feet clear of the stirrups, just in case the horse
reacted badly, and it was a good thing I did. She reared up and I was
thrown back. I hit my head on some rocks and got a cut right
above my eyebrow that was bleeding heavily. I’d been holding my rifle
in my hand and as my hand flew back and hit heavily against a rock,
it broke as well. So I was laying there hurt and
shaken. My companions on the other side of the canyon had seen what
happened and I heard Brother Tuttle call out “Are you hurt?” I
replied “Yes, I’m bleeding!” He called out again “Are you hurt?” I
called again “Yes, I’m bleeding!”, but the wind was blowing the wrong
way and they couldn’t hear me. The fourth time this happened, I
yelled in response “No!” And they called back “Okay!” and continued
to ride on up the mountain. That’s lesson one!
I finally got myself up, caught my horse down the mountain where she
had gotten caught in some branches, and managed to get into town
where I was bandaged up and my hand was tended to.
Shortly after that, I was traveling on business and was at the
airport. A fellow traveler, an older man not of our faith, saw my
bandaged hand and asked if I was all right. I replied rather
offhandedly. And he responded that it was something I would remember
all the rest of my days. He then told me that he had once worked at
digging a canal â€“ now that caught my attention because I remembered
the canal I have mentioned. He said that he was out of work at the
time [the Great Depression] and couldn’t find employment. He saw the
canal being dug and knew that if he asked the foreman for a job, he
would be turned away. He saw a spare pick laying there, so he picked
it up and started working. A short while later, the foreman walked by
and, not recognizing him, asked him what he was doing. He explained
to me that he told the foreman he was out of work and stated “I need
to work. You don’t have to pay me, but I need to work.”
Well, as you might expect, they worked things out and he was paid for
his labors. We then proceeded to talk, this older fellow and I, and I
have remembered his counsel. Now I am the old man giving counsel to
you. In the Great Depression, people were frightened and growing
more so. They began to be very resourceful. They had to be. Looking
forward, we’re all going to learn that lesson, one way or another.
The Church is in excellent condition. You don’t need to worry about
that. But as individuals we will face difficulty. Some will come to
the Bishop seeking financial aid and counsel. And as judges in
Israel, the Bishop will respond. The time for financial largess in
our ward activities is over.” [President Packer then turned directly
to our Bishop and counseled him that last year's youth trip to
Nauvoo, which was, President Packer said, a great opportunity for
testimonybuilding and missionary work, will not happen again. Times
of/for that sort of expense in the Church are past.]
President Packer then shared experiences of providing aid and service
after the great Tsunami devastated Indonesia. He recalled… “I was
speaking on the phone with a government minister who said “I’m
standing in Banda Aceh and you cannot imagine what I am seeing. A
city of a million people has been swept away and there is nothing.” A
week later, I was standing in area of Banda Aceh and the need was
“What do you need?” I asked. “Body bags” was the reply. So we found
20,000 body bags in China and had them on a plane the next day.
A call came, “we need 30 [thousand] more.” We found them and they
were sent. The next call “do you have any motorcycles? We need to
get back into the mountain villages with aid and medical supplies,
but the roads are gone. Trucks can’t get through and elephants
are too slow. If we had motorcycles, we could get through.”
“Are they to be found in Asia” I asked. “Yes,” he said. So we found
the motorcycles and had them on their way the next day.
The Church is sound and is able to provide these types of aid as a
back-up where there is need. We [as members and in our individual
wards] are the back-up position of the Church. Learn to
apply the old Pioneer adage â€“ “Eat [use] it up. Wear it out. Make do,
or do without.” We’re going to have to learn to do without.
Again, “Eat it up. Wear it out. Make do, or do without.”
Even if we have the resources, we need to do more to be thrifty.
Others will rely on us. The Church will rely on us. It is our
responsibility and duty to be caring for ourselves, our family,
and those around us. Be watching for need. Set something by that we
can be of help to others when the time comes. Trust in the counsel of
our wise elders/older people.
There are nearly 60,000 missionaries serving throughout the world
today. The cost to support a missionary is right about $400 a month
today. That’s $4,800 a year. Consider if we have the resources that
there may be others who don’t and who have a need. When Brother
Tuttle was a young man, he had a strong desire to serve a mission.
But he didn’t have the money to pay for it, and his family didn’t
have the money for it. So Brother Tuttle thought of who was the
richest man in his town and, after saying a prayer, he approached
him. A loan was made, a mission served, and the loan repaid. Those
who need our help may not always ask us.
It’s about time the Lord taught us a lesson. A great catastrophe is
coming. Now I probably shouldn’t say that because then it will
happen. But it is going to happen. That’s what it will take
to turn our hearts to the Lord. And we will learn from it.
Our prayers will be different, less selfish. The scripture says “If
ye are prepared, ye need not fear.” Renew your prayers. You can
[also] think a prayer. Carry a prayer in your heart
throughout the day. Learn to pray for that which is of worth. Another
scripture says “â€¦do not spend money for that which is of no worth,
nor your labor for that which cannot satisfy.” (2 Nephi 9:51) That
can be applied both spiritually [to prayer] and physically. Use what
we have. If something is broken, fix it. Our young people are going
to see different times than what they are used to. To you teenagers,
your life will be different. Things are changing. You will have to
do without some of the things you are used to expecting. Don’t be
afraid. Change your life to do without the extravagances and luxuries
that you’ve expected.
Learn to pray. There’s a difference between `saying prayers’ and
praying. A wonderful time is coming â€“ it’s not going to be easy, and
it’s not going to be short. But don’t be afraid.
Brother Tuttle was one of the Seventy when there were just seven of
them. Now there are eight quorums of the Seventy called to go
throughout all the world. It’s an apostolic calling to teach
the gospel to every nation, people and tongue. They’ll know what to
do and will lead and counsel where they are called.
Take care of what we’ve got. Begin to save. The rainy day is coming â€“
in fact, the snowy day is already here [in reference to today's first
winter snow]. Reset our expectations. Give up selfishness. Wickedness
is all around us. In today’s world, it’s not safe for children to be
outside alone. We need to be ever watchful. We need to protect
ourselves from the wickedness, avarice, and greed in the world.
Read the scriptures and the revelations. The guidance and counsel are
there. Read with new eyes, and the scriptures, the Book of Mormon,
will take on new meaning.
As President Bush and world leaders gather in the coming week and the
weeks ahead, there will be no easy answers or solutions. Hard times
are ahead and it’s difficult for them to see what to do. It’s
important to listen to the Sprit. We are led by prophets and
apostles. We can see ahead. We can be and are prepared.
I pronounce upon you an Apostolic blessing. Comfort our children.
Little children can be afraid of things we might not think of.
Comfort them and strengthen our families. Turn off the television and
focus on family. Pay your tithing. The promise is there â€“ pay your
tithing and you’ll be watched over. You’ll be alright. None of us is
exempt from trials. If hard times come upon you and your income
dwindles, remember that tithing is equitable for everyone: 10%. If
you have nothing, then it’s 10% of practically nothing. Pay your
tithing, do what you’re supposed to do. You’ll be comforted.
Sure trials will come. Because of them, faith will increase.
Happiness will increase. Security will increase. You’ll be glad to be
alive at this time. It’s a good time to be living. To be raising
children. I leave this testimony, counsel, and blessing with you in
the holy name of Jesus Christ.