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		<title>By: Aaron C.</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/05/called-to-leave/#comment-265583</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember our seminary teacher invited two RMs to come speak to our class about their mission experiences.  One went to a country in South America and was very enthusiastic about the work and his two years.  The other went to Greece and gave a rather sobering depiction of a mission - people spitting on you, no one to teach, no baptisms, etc.  I think this was done on purpose to give us a sense that missions aren&#039;t always &quot;fun&quot; - If you&#039;re going to go, go because you love the Lord, not because you want a two year vacation.

I was never told it would be the &quot;funnest&quot; two years (although I do remember my mission being very fun).  When people say it will be the &quot;best&quot; two years - I think they mean something along the lines of spiritual growth (although this isn&#039;t the case many times).  For those of you who didn&#039;t have pleasant missions, I pray that you have blessing laid up for you in heaven for the work that you performed.

What I wasn&#039;t prepared for were the less valiant lazy missionaries - it had never before occured to me that people would serve a mission and not &quot;serve&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember our seminary teacher invited two RMs to come speak to our class about their mission experiences.  One went to a country in South America and was very enthusiastic about the work and his two years.  The other went to Greece and gave a rather sobering depiction of a mission &#8211; people spitting on you, no one to teach, no baptisms, etc.  I think this was done on purpose to give us a sense that missions aren&#8217;t always &#8220;fun&#8221; &#8211; If you&#8217;re going to go, go because you love the Lord, not because you want a two year vacation.</p>
<p>I was never told it would be the &#8220;funnest&#8221; two years (although I do remember my mission being very fun).  When people say it will be the &#8220;best&#8221; two years &#8211; I think they mean something along the lines of spiritual growth (although this isn&#8217;t the case many times).  For those of you who didn&#8217;t have pleasant missions, I pray that you have blessing laid up for you in heaven for the work that you performed.</p>
<p>What I wasn&#8217;t prepared for were the less valiant lazy missionaries &#8211; it had never before occured to me that people would serve a mission and not &#8220;serve&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Lupita</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/05/called-to-leave/#comment-265549</link>
		<dc:creator>Lupita</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#36 I could have written this, except for the European mission part (that was for my dh). Thanks for beating me to it. I was in South America as one of the less successful missionaries because I wasn&#039;t baptizing forty people each month. I felt completely unprepared for many aspects of mission life that were never even alluded to in the MTC. &quot;Horrendous experience&quot; indeed.
As the mother of four small boys, I keenly feel the responsibility of preparing them for their mission experiences. I don&#039;t quite know where the balance lies. Somehow, &quot;it&#039;s going to be reaaaaaaaaaaaaally difficult but one day you&#039;ll find meaning in and gratitude for the experience&quot; doesn&#039;t sound that encouraging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#36 I could have written this, except for the European mission part (that was for my dh). Thanks for beating me to it. I was in South America as one of the less successful missionaries because I wasn&#8217;t baptizing forty people each month. I felt completely unprepared for many aspects of mission life that were never even alluded to in the MTC. &#8220;Horrendous experience&#8221; indeed.<br />
As the mother of four small boys, I keenly feel the responsibility of preparing them for their mission experiences. I don&#8217;t quite know where the balance lies. Somehow, &#8220;it&#8217;s going to be reaaaaaaaaaaaaally difficult but one day you&#8217;ll find meaning in and gratitude for the experience&#8221; doesn&#8217;t sound that encouraging.</p>
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		<title>By: Erik Champenois</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/05/called-to-leave/#comment-265543</link>
		<dc:creator>Erik Champenois</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve lived half my life in Europe (Denmark) and can understand your experience and lack of success there. Too many missionaries lose their enthusiasm about being a missionary and trying to spread the Gospel, understandable due to those just not interested in hearing about the Gospel and also understandable due to the idea that a mission is always a positive and succesful thing. It can be -- and faith may move mountains, even in Europe. In fact, prophecies have been made that conversions in Europe will increase in the future and a greater harvest of souls will take place (see President Hinckley&#039;s dedication of the Netherlands temple, for example). But that is not to underestimate the true difficulty of serving in most of Europe. It is a struggle and if one knew that before going, perhaps it would be easier to know and understand and be able to serve in the best way without getting to disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve lived half my life in Europe (Denmark) and can understand your experience and lack of success there. Too many missionaries lose their enthusiasm about being a missionary and trying to spread the Gospel, understandable due to those just not interested in hearing about the Gospel and also understandable due to the idea that a mission is always a positive and succesful thing. It can be &#8212; and faith may move mountains, even in Europe. In fact, prophecies have been made that conversions in Europe will increase in the future and a greater harvest of souls will take place (see President Hinckley&#8217;s dedication of the Netherlands temple, for example). But that is not to underestimate the true difficulty of serving in most of Europe. It is a struggle and if one knew that before going, perhaps it would be easier to know and understand and be able to serve in the best way without getting to disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: purposely anonymous</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/05/called-to-leave/#comment-265533</link>
		<dc:creator>purposely anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A comment about # 6 on the original post&#039;s list:  I don&#039;t think there&#039;s many things that are more jarring in the church than having a bad mission experience.  We spend 18 years telling and even promising our youth that the mission will be the &quot;best two years of their lives.&quot;  If reality turns out differently--through a harder than expected mission area, through a less-than-inspiring mission president (purposefully treading lightly here), or something else altogether--the missionary not only ends up frustrated, but also totally disillusioned b/c (1) they feel like they were lied to about what to expect, and (2) they can&#039;t relate to any of the public discourse about what missions are like.  

While I certainly had some great experiences on my mission, it was a rough experience on all relevant levels.  Based on some of the above comments, as well as more than a few friends who had similar experiences, I know I&#039;m not alone.  Overall, I&#039;m glad I went and glad I served, but I&#039;m more than a little happy that it&#039;s over and done with.  More germane to the post:  looking back on it years later, I&#039;m convinced that while the mission itself was hard to deal with, it was still much harder to deal with the total disconnect between what I&#039;d been told about a mission and what I actually experienced as a missionary.  

Maybe a large part of it was that I was raised by a family dominated by RM&#039;s from South America who never could understand my European experience.  For example, I could have done without the letters suggesting that my lack of success was attributable to my lack of faith, rather than the people who--let&#039;s be honest--just didn&#039;t care. 

In any event, it seems like we generally talk about missions as we&#039;d like to think they are (or should be), rather than how they actually (or at least usually) are, and as a result, I think we sometimes do a poor job of preparing missionaries for what a mission is actually going to be like.  When things go south, the missionary then has ample reason to not just feel frustrated with the experience, but bitter with the program or even the church itself.  I think a little more perspective in missionary prep classes would go a long way to ameliorating this type of problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A comment about # 6 on the original post&#8217;s list:  I don&#8217;t think there&#8217;s many things that are more jarring in the church than having a bad mission experience.  We spend 18 years telling and even promising our youth that the mission will be the &#8220;best two years of their lives.&#8221;  If reality turns out differently&#8211;through a harder than expected mission area, through a less-than-inspiring mission president (purposefully treading lightly here), or something else altogether&#8211;the missionary not only ends up frustrated, but also totally disillusioned b/c (1) they feel like they were lied to about what to expect, and (2) they can&#8217;t relate to any of the public discourse about what missions are like.  </p>
<p>While I certainly had some great experiences on my mission, it was a rough experience on all relevant levels.  Based on some of the above comments, as well as more than a few friends who had similar experiences, I know I&#8217;m not alone.  Overall, I&#8217;m glad I went and glad I served, but I&#8217;m more than a little happy that it&#8217;s over and done with.  More germane to the post:  looking back on it years later, I&#8217;m convinced that while the mission itself was hard to deal with, it was still much harder to deal with the total disconnect between what I&#8217;d been told about a mission and what I actually experienced as a missionary.  </p>
<p>Maybe a large part of it was that I was raised by a family dominated by RM&#8217;s from South America who never could understand my European experience.  For example, I could have done without the letters suggesting that my lack of success was attributable to my lack of faith, rather than the people who&#8211;let&#8217;s be honest&#8211;just didn&#8217;t care. </p>
<p>In any event, it seems like we generally talk about missions as we&#8217;d like to think they are (or should be), rather than how they actually (or at least usually) are, and as a result, I think we sometimes do a poor job of preparing missionaries for what a mission is actually going to be like.  When things go south, the missionary then has ample reason to not just feel frustrated with the experience, but bitter with the program or even the church itself.  I think a little more perspective in missionary prep classes would go a long way to ameliorating this type of problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron C.</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/05/called-to-leave/#comment-265519</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 16:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mother had seen the video &quot;Called to Serve&quot; and was therefore forwarned about the &quot;missionaries this way, families that way&quot; scene.  Deciding this would be too difficult, she put me and my two brothers on a plane to Utah where an aunt picked us up and took us to the MTC.  

I love this post.  Some of the best conversations I&#039;ve had are sharing old &quot;war stories&quot; with other RMs and with people who are just about to leave.  I&#039;ve had two brothers-in-law choose not to serve missions and it makes me sad to think of the things (good and bad) that they will miss out on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mother had seen the video &#8220;Called to Serve&#8221; and was therefore forwarned about the &#8220;missionaries this way, families that way&#8221; scene.  Deciding this would be too difficult, she put me and my two brothers on a plane to Utah where an aunt picked us up and took us to the MTC.  </p>
<p>I love this post.  Some of the best conversations I&#8217;ve had are sharing old &#8220;war stories&#8221; with other RMs and with people who are just about to leave.  I&#8217;ve had two brothers-in-law choose not to serve missions and it makes me sad to think of the things (good and bad) that they will miss out on.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/05/called-to-leave/#comment-265501</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 15:11:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have come to the understanding that the Church really is different for each individual - based on that person&#039;s experience with the global leadership, to some degree, but more so on that person&#039;s experience with local leadership and events like baptisms and missions.  

I understand the pain on an intellectual level, but my mission (though hard) was a wonderful growth experience that didn&#039;t scar or bruise me in any way that matters - death threat notwithstanding.  Therefore, I am not hurting in the slightest at the thought of my son leaving this summer.  I would hurt if he were not.  

My wife, on the other hand, is dreading that moment when we say good-bye.  She has not served a mission yet, so her emotions are fully motherly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have come to the understanding that the Church really is different for each individual &#8211; based on that person&#8217;s experience with the global leadership, to some degree, but more so on that person&#8217;s experience with local leadership and events like baptisms and missions.  </p>
<p>I understand the pain on an intellectual level, but my mission (though hard) was a wonderful growth experience that didn&#8217;t scar or bruise me in any way that matters &#8211; death threat notwithstanding.  Therefore, I am not hurting in the slightest at the thought of my son leaving this summer.  I would hurt if he were not.  </p>
<p>My wife, on the other hand, is dreading that moment when we say good-bye.  She has not served a mission yet, so her emotions are fully motherly.</p>
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		<title>By: Wendy Ulrich</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/05/called-to-leave/#comment-265494</link>
		<dc:creator>Wendy Ulrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are so many ways for missions to be painful - sending missionaries, not sending children we wish were going, having parents gone on missions when we need them at home, sending children on missions to the other side of the veil when we so desperately long for them to stay, reflecting on our own missions when they just did not work and left us scarred and bruised.  There is not always a cure for these things, but through Christ our hope is that there can be healing.  But sometimes, truly, &quot;the journey seems long, the way rugged and steep.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many ways for missions to be painful &#8211; sending missionaries, not sending children we wish were going, having parents gone on missions when we need them at home, sending children on missions to the other side of the veil when we so desperately long for them to stay, reflecting on our own missions when they just did not work and left us scarred and bruised.  There is not always a cure for these things, but through Christ our hope is that there can be healing.  But sometimes, truly, &#8220;the journey seems long, the way rugged and steep.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Jami</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/05/called-to-leave/#comment-265424</link>
		<dc:creator>Jami</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 06:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wendy, 
What a great post. We are moving ever closer to this day in our family. Then I&#039;ll send them two at a time. I hope I can be the mom at home that I wished for when I was on my mission.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wendy,<br />
What a great post. We are moving ever closer to this day in our family. Then I&#8217;ll send them two at a time. I hope I can be the mom at home that I wished for when I was on my mission.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen M (Ethesis)</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/05/called-to-leave/#comment-265396</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen M (Ethesis)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 02:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;#

I remember a sister in our ward saying the hardest thing she ever had to do in her life was to send her two boys on missions. As a mother whose 2 boys went inactive and never went on missions I silently said to myself - â€œoh how I wish that that was the hardest thing I ever had to do in my life.â€ &lt;/i&gt;

My wife felt the same way after we had buried two children in the space of eleven months, even more so after we buried the third within four and a half years of the first.

But, it is a social trope, and one that resonates.  I don&#039;t disrupt them for others.

It was difficult having my parents serve their missions.  Kenya, Philippines, D.C. and Korea.  There are times I needed them.  Now they just need me.  I&#039;m glad I still need them.</description>
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<p>I remember a sister in our ward saying the hardest thing she ever had to do in her life was to send her two boys on missions. As a mother whose 2 boys went inactive and never went on missions I silently said to myself &#8211; â€œoh how I wish that that was the hardest thing I ever had to do in my life.â€ </i></p>
<p>My wife felt the same way after we had buried two children in the space of eleven months, even more so after we buried the third within four and a half years of the first.</p>
<p>But, it is a social trope, and one that resonates.  I don&#8217;t disrupt them for others.</p>
<p>It was difficult having my parents serve their missions.  Kenya, Philippines, D.C. and Korea.  There are times I needed them.  Now they just need me.  I&#8217;m glad I still need them.</p>
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		<title>By: ukann</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/05/called-to-leave/#comment-265320</link>
		<dc:creator>ukann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember a sister in our ward saying the hardest thing she ever had to do in her life was to send her two boys on missions.  As a mother whose 2 boys went inactive and never went on missions I silently said to myself - &quot;oh how I wish that that was the hardest thing I ever had to do in my life.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember a sister in our ward saying the hardest thing she ever had to do in her life was to send her two boys on missions.  As a mother whose 2 boys went inactive and never went on missions I silently said to myself &#8211; &#8220;oh how I wish that that was the hardest thing I ever had to do in my life.&#8221;</p>
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