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	<title>Comments on: Orbital Sacrament</title>
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		<title>By: Raymond Takashi Swenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raymond Takashi Swenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 18:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having the sacrament in a challenging environment, such as in a military combat zone, or with just my missionary companion and myself when we were starting a new branch of the Church in a new city, is a way of sanctifying those places and experiences, and ourselves in them.  Doing it in spite of challenges is to emphatically renew the promise that we will always remember Him.  

When I bless the sacrament, I read the prayers as a precaution because if it is done improperly, it needs to be done over, and everyone in the congregation is relying on me.  But when I am sitting in the congregation, I remember that my great-grandmother, who was converted with her parents in Denmark, would recite the sacrament prayers to herself as she held the bread and the cup.  I silently recite the prayers in the Japanese version I learned (it has since been simplified, a bit inelegantly according to Professor Van Gessel at BYU).    It helps me focus on their meaning, and the fact that I am making a covenant.  

The Church some time back adapted the garments so they could be used by military members in combat uniform.  It is really the origin of the two piece garments now common.  The military version, which one has to show military ID to purchase, are also died a darker, neutral color to match the standard issue undershirts, and have a higher collar to match those as well, since the BDUs (battle dress uniform) are worn with an open collar that shows the front of the undershirt.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having the sacrament in a challenging environment, such as in a military combat zone, or with just my missionary companion and myself when we were starting a new branch of the Church in a new city, is a way of sanctifying those places and experiences, and ourselves in them.  Doing it in spite of challenges is to emphatically renew the promise that we will always remember Him.  </p>
<p>When I bless the sacrament, I read the prayers as a precaution because if it is done improperly, it needs to be done over, and everyone in the congregation is relying on me.  But when I am sitting in the congregation, I remember that my great-grandmother, who was converted with her parents in Denmark, would recite the sacrament prayers to herself as she held the bread and the cup.  I silently recite the prayers in the Japanese version I learned (it has since been simplified, a bit inelegantly according to Professor Van Gessel at BYU).    It helps me focus on their meaning, and the fact that I am making a covenant.  </p>
<p>The Church some time back adapted the garments so they could be used by military members in combat uniform.  It is really the origin of the two piece garments now common.  The military version, which one has to show military ID to purchase, are also died a darker, neutral color to match the standard issue undershirts, and have a higher collar to match those as well, since the BDUs (battle dress uniform) are worn with an open collar that shows the front of the undershirt.</p>
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		<title>By: m&#38;m</title>
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		<dc:creator>m&#38;m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 17:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome. Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome. Thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Willey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Martin Willey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting post.  Makes me wonder about my commitment.  I would have likely thought:  &quot;I can skip the sacrament for a week.  After all, I do it every time there is a general or stake conference.&quot;  But then I would missed out on a very significant experience.  Performing our usual routine under unusual circumstances often provides new insights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post.  Makes me wonder about my commitment.  I would have likely thought:  &#8220;I can skip the sacrament for a week.  After all, I do it every time there is a general or stake conference.&#8221;  But then I would missed out on a very significant experience.  Performing our usual routine under unusual circumstances often provides new insights.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/04/orbital-sacrament/#comment-260296</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 16:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fascinating.  Thanks, Adam, John and Ardis.

[Editor-- All I did was cut and paste information that John Taber and Ardis Parshall found and sent to me.  No thanks necessary.]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fascinating.  Thanks, Adam, John and Ardis.</p>
<p>[Editor-- All I did was cut and paste information that John Taber and Ardis Parshall found and sent to me.  No thanks necessary.]</p>
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		<title>By: JT</title>
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		<dc:creator>JT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I was a child when this took place, this is all pretty novel to me.  Thanks Adam - very interesting post.  God&#039;s creation always becomes a little more real for me whenever I look up at the sky on a clear night away from the city, or when I look at some of the galaxy photos taken from the Hubble telescope. /goosebumps  

As an aside, and to follow up on Left Field&#039;s question (1), I had never heard that we are not supposed to recite sacrament prayers from memory.  I don&#039;t recall ever seeing this in the current CHI, but it&#039;s possible I could have missed it, despite having read every page.  Since his trip took place when I was a child, does anyone know if reciting the sacrament prayer from memory used to be discouraged (or still is)?

PS - I don&#039;t know why this reminds me of it, but I was in what I believe is the only LDS bookstore in Minnesota a year ago and found a random volume entitled &quot;The Kolob Theory,&quot; which postulates that the Milky Way is (our) God&#039;s creation, with Kolob near the center, and that the other galaxies are the creation of others, and went on to state many other interesting ideas no doubt developed in the author&#039;s high-priest group. I guess its not too far-fetched (about how I imagined things), but its interesting what random books you can find in isolated LDS bookstores. Makes me want to hie there again sometime soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I was a child when this took place, this is all pretty novel to me.  Thanks Adam &#8211; very interesting post.  God&#8217;s creation always becomes a little more real for me whenever I look up at the sky on a clear night away from the city, or when I look at some of the galaxy photos taken from the Hubble telescope. /goosebumps  </p>
<p>As an aside, and to follow up on Left Field&#8217;s question (1), I had never heard that we are not supposed to recite sacrament prayers from memory.  I don&#8217;t recall ever seeing this in the current CHI, but it&#8217;s possible I could have missed it, despite having read every page.  Since his trip took place when I was a child, does anyone know if reciting the sacrament prayer from memory used to be discouraged (or still is)?</p>
<p>PS &#8211; I don&#8217;t know why this reminds me of it, but I was in what I believe is the only LDS bookstore in Minnesota a year ago and found a random volume entitled &#8220;The Kolob Theory,&#8221; which postulates that the Milky Way is (our) God&#8217;s creation, with Kolob near the center, and that the other galaxies are the creation of others, and went on to state many other interesting ideas no doubt developed in the author&#8217;s high-priest group. I guess its not too far-fetched (about how I imagined things), but its interesting what random books you can find in isolated LDS bookstores. Makes me want to hie there again sometime soon.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter LLC</title>
		<link>http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/04/orbital-sacrament/#comment-260281</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter LLC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 14:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>He sounds like one who takes his religion seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He sounds like one who takes his religion seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Left Field</title>
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		<dc:creator>Left Field</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 13:21:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re counseled not to give the sacrament prayers from memory?  Who knew?

I remember Lind talking about this in general conference, but this seems to be a more detailed account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re counseled not to give the sacrament prayers from memory?  Who knew?</p>
<p>I remember Lind talking about this in general conference, but this seems to be a more detailed account.</p>
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