Comments on: Changing Mormon Musical Aesthetics? http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/04/changing-mormon-musical-aesthetics/ Truth Will Prevail Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:57:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Jonovitch http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/04/changing-mormon-musical-aesthetics/#comment-262192 Jonovitch Mon, 05 May 2008 18:03:10 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4517#comment-262192 This just in -- Elder Russel M. Nelson weighs in on issues posted at Times & Seasons. See last paragraph: http://mormontimes.com/WC_headquarters.php?id=1024 Jon This just in —

Elder Russel M. Nelson weighs in on issues posted at Times & Seasons. See last paragraph: http://mormontimes.com/WC_headquarters.php?id=1024

Jon

]]> By: Michelle Glauser http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/04/changing-mormon-musical-aesthetics/#comment-261143 Michelle Glauser Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:35:44 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4517#comment-261143 And yet, I know that a lot of people freak out when trumpets are brought to sacrament meeting, so maybe it's because it's not sacrament meeting? People are funny. I think guidelines are flexible if the Spirit is still able to be there. And yet, I know that a lot of people freak out when trumpets are brought to sacrament meeting, so maybe it’s because it’s not sacrament meeting? People are funny. I think guidelines are flexible if the Spirit is still able to be there.

]]> By: Murray Ceff http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/04/changing-mormon-musical-aesthetics/#comment-261006 Murray Ceff Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:25:41 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4517#comment-261006 Correction to post #114 - Alex Boye is Afro-Englishman! Correction to post #114 – Alex Boye is Afro-Englishman!

]]> By: Murray Ceff http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/04/changing-mormon-musical-aesthetics/#comment-260999 Murray Ceff Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:03:44 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4517#comment-260999 I know this thread is getting old now, but following another dose of chloroform via satellite (General conference in Australia), I just have to say that the MoTab are designed to put people to sleep. More than one hymn for congregational singing over a two hour talkathon might be good! I wish dearly for a bit of musical variation that might just wake me up. Bring on Gladys Knight and the Saints United Voices and let the world know we are not a bunch of boring old tetotallers! We are a bunch of tetotallers who can tap foot occasionally! I remember a James Taylor concert where I felt the Spirit stronger than some LDS sacrament meetings. Nothing wrong with guitar or whatever if played with sensitivity. Obviously Hendrix style solos would not fit. Thank goodness someone in authority had the intestinal fortitude to give Peter Breinholt a gig with MoTab. Now if we could just up the tempo a bit! What if we could get Alex Boye out front of the Choir for a solo? (he is one of the Afro-Americans in MoTab) I know this thread is getting old now, but following another dose of chloroform via satellite (General conference in Australia), I just have to say that the MoTab are designed to put people to sleep. More than one hymn for congregational singing over a two hour talkathon might be good! I wish dearly for a bit of musical variation that might just wake me up. Bring on Gladys Knight and the Saints United Voices and let the world know we are not a bunch of boring old tetotallers! We are a bunch of tetotallers who can tap foot occasionally!
I remember a James Taylor concert where I felt the Spirit stronger than some LDS sacrament meetings. Nothing wrong with guitar or whatever if played with sensitivity. Obviously Hendrix style solos would not fit.
Thank goodness someone in authority had the intestinal fortitude to give Peter Breinholt a gig with MoTab. Now if we could just up the tempo a bit!
What if we could get Alex Boye out front of the Choir for a solo? (he is one of the Afro-Americans in MoTab)

]]> By: Anne Humble http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/04/changing-mormon-musical-aesthetics/#comment-260839 Anne Humble Sun, 27 Apr 2008 03:24:26 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4517#comment-260839 I had a guitar play in a ward christmas program. The stake president was so touched by the program, he had us do the entire program during stake conference. at Easter I\'ve had a trumpet solo of the \"Lord\'s Prayer\" after getting permission from the stake presidency. I showed them all the scriptures where the trumpet is played and noted that a trumpet is in the hands of Moroni on the temples. The counselor came to our ward sacrament meeting to hear it. The brother who played the trumpet has given concerts. I\'ve also had a lovely french horn in a small orchestra. ONe just has to be careful that all are played well. I had a guitar play in a ward christmas program. The stake president was so touched by the program, he had us do the entire program during stake conference.
at Easter I\’ve had a trumpet solo of the \”Lord\’s Prayer\” after getting permission from the stake presidency. I showed them all the scriptures where the trumpet
is played and noted that a trumpet is in the hands of Moroni on the temples. The counselor came to our ward sacrament meeting to hear it. The brother who
played the trumpet has given concerts. I\’ve also had a lovely french horn in a small orchestra. ONe just has to be careful that all are played well.

]]> By: Sue http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/04/changing-mormon-musical-aesthetics/#comment-260719 Sue Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:15:54 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4517#comment-260719 Peter, I'm not familiar with your music, but I thought the song and the arrangement were just lovely. (And now your day is complete, I'm sure.) Peter, I’m not familiar with your music, but I thought the song and the arrangement were just lovely. (And now your day is complete, I’m sure.)

]]> By: JT http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/04/changing-mormon-musical-aesthetics/#comment-260654 JT Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:28:47 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4517#comment-260654 Patrick (109) - To further bolster your point regarding Elder Oaks's comment cutting both ways, I believe most of the examples that he uses in his talk are ways _American_ traditions can be "contrary to the commandments of God and the culture of His gospel." Patrick (109) – To further bolster your point regarding Elder Oaks’s comment cutting both ways, I believe most of the examples that he uses in his talk are ways _American_ traditions can be “contrary to the commandments of God and the culture of His gospel.”

]]> By: chris j http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/04/changing-mormon-musical-aesthetics/#comment-260573 chris j Fri, 25 Apr 2008 05:35:20 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4517#comment-260573 Marc #7 In the McLean VA Stake, I heard the first counselor in the stake presidency play a very loud trumpet solo during the Christmas program. It was pretty good. Musical instruments are awesome. I wish we had more variety, and wondering why we don't have more in meetings deserves some ponder-time. Maybe loud instruments are frowned upon because they are loud, and when people don't perform well it's that much more awkward. People have a hard time using their spiritual ears when their physical ears are bleeding. Marc #7
In the McLean VA Stake, I heard the first counselor in the stake presidency play a very loud trumpet solo during the Christmas program. It was pretty good. Musical instruments are awesome. I wish we had more variety, and wondering why we don’t have more in meetings deserves some ponder-time. Maybe loud instruments are frowned upon because they are loud, and when people don’t perform well it’s that much more awkward. People have a hard time using their spiritual ears when their physical ears are bleeding.

]]> By: Patrick http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/04/changing-mormon-musical-aesthetics/#comment-260569 Patrick Fri, 25 Apr 2008 04:47:19 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4517#comment-260569 DavidH @ #57 referred to the Church having one "template" for music. I have been troubled by this for many years, having attended services in wards and branches in many parts of the world. In the past, the 'official' approach seems to have been to take our (essentially) American hymnal and translate it into the local language. I've always felt we were missing out on the opportunity to integrate the local musical culture into worship. Elder Dallin Oaks declared: "We say to all, give up your traditions and cultural practices that are contrary to the commandments of God and the culture of His gospel, and join with His people in building the kingdom of God." Sometimes I wonder if this doesn't cut both ways: should new members in other parts of the world have to adopt our Anglo-Saxon musical traditions in order to embrace the true Gosepl of Jesus Christ? I don't believe so. DavidH @ #57 referred to the Church having one “template” for music. I have been troubled by this for many years, having attended services in wards and branches in many parts of the world. In the past, the ‘official’ approach seems to have been to take our (essentially) American hymnal and translate it into the local language. I’ve always felt we were missing out on the opportunity to integrate the local musical culture into worship.

Elder Dallin Oaks declared: “We say to all, give up your traditions and cultural practices that are contrary to the commandments of God and the culture of His gospel, and join with His people in building the kingdom of God.” Sometimes I wonder if this doesn’t cut both ways: should new members in other parts of the world have to adopt our Anglo-Saxon musical traditions in order to embrace the true Gosepl of Jesus Christ? I don’t believe so.

]]> By: Lee Choquette http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/04/changing-mormon-musical-aesthetics/#comment-260554 Lee Choquette Fri, 25 Apr 2008 01:58:34 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4517#comment-260554 Where do you hear all this Mormom pop and contemporary Christian? I haven't heard anything like that in sacrament meeting for over 10 years. True, five of those years I spent in a stake whose president didn't permit anything other than hymns and Primary songs, but even after moving far away from there I seldom hear anything else, and certainly not pop. One of the most memorable talks I heard in sacrament meeting was 20-25 years ago when the speaker (a grown man, not a youth) played Jefferson Starship's "We Built This City on Rock and Roll" from the pulpit on his boom box. The message was that each of us should remember why we are members of the church. Where do you hear all this Mormom pop and contemporary Christian? I haven’t heard anything like that in sacrament meeting for over 10 years. True, five of those years I spent in a stake whose president didn’t permit anything other than hymns and Primary songs, but even after moving far away from there I seldom hear anything else, and certainly not pop.

One of the most memorable talks I heard in sacrament meeting was 20-25 years ago when the speaker (a grown man, not a youth) played Jefferson Starship’s “We Built This City on Rock and Roll” from the pulpit on his boom box. The message was that each of us should remember why we are members of the church.

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