Comments on: If You Don’t Like Mormons, Mitt Flip-Flops http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/01/if-you-dont-like-mormons-mitt-flip-flops/ Truth Will Prevail Sun, 12 Feb 2012 07:57:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Mark M http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/01/if-you-dont-like-mormons-mitt-flip-flops/#comment-247410 Mark M Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:29:04 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4352#comment-247410 Anna G. (#23, #35) I love your comment: "Along the lines of what Jon said, my take is that people tend to decide whether they like a candidate, then justify it after the fact." Replace "candidate" with "boyfriend" or "girlfriend" and I think that describes dating and social life quite well. I'm not surprised it's that way when voting for public officials too. Anna G. (#23, #35)

I love your comment:
“Along the lines of what Jon said, my take is that people tend to decide whether they like a candidate, then justify it after the fact.”

Replace “candidate” with “boyfriend” or “girlfriend” and I think that describes dating and social life quite well. I’m not surprised it’s that way when voting for public officials too.

]]> By: Mark M http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/01/if-you-dont-like-mormons-mitt-flip-flops/#comment-247409 Mark M Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:26:06 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4352#comment-247409 #37 Rosalynde, Having lived in Massachusetts since 1999, I'm another one of those who agrees with what you summarized. Concerning the many MA residents who dislike Romney, it's well illustrated by a conversation I overheard in a restaurant. An grandparent-aged couple was talking with what appeared to be a daughter or friend visiting from out-of-state. The younger woman said, "And you like Romney here, don't you?" The older woman responded most emphatically, "Ohhhhhh, NO! He's tooooooo con-serrrrrr-vative!" #37 Rosalynde,
Having lived in Massachusetts since 1999, I’m another one of those who agrees with what you summarized.

Concerning the many MA residents who dislike Romney, it’s well illustrated by a conversation I overheard in a restaurant. An grandparent-aged couple was talking with what appeared to be a daughter or friend visiting from out-of-state. The younger woman said, “And you like Romney here, don’t you?” The older woman responded most emphatically, “Ohhhhhh, NO! He’s tooooooo con-serrrrrr-vative!”

]]> By: salt h2o http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/01/if-you-dont-like-mormons-mitt-flip-flops/#comment-247386 salt h2o Mon, 21 Jan 2008 16:42:54 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4352#comment-247386 Social issues are for the stupid. If we forgot about social issues and focused on the real issues facing this country- the 'flip flopping' would be of little concern, since the majority of Mitt's changes of opinion revolve around abortion. I know this isn't what you want to hear but abortion is legal- Roe v Wade is over, we lost- get over it. George W. is pro-life and how has that affected his presidency? People that vote on social issues don't have the time or intellect to delve into a politicians voting history, or resume of accomplishments- it's much easier to be brainless and vote because someone is pro--life or pro-choice, pro-gay marriage or against gay marriage. The truth of the matter is, these opinions will have little impact on your life. The real issues at hand, being the declining economy, healthcare, the war, and immigration are swept under the rug while the mass media plays upon the American's stupidy of caring about social issues. Civil unions between gays is going to happen. It's only a matter of time. Even Mike "I want to change the constitution to be in line with God's law" can't change the tidal wave of left wing morality hitting the nation. To all of you that have posted opinions about Mitt, such as him hating the poor- post some evidence. For all of you who are looking for a GOP candidate- take some time to read the latest article on www.anncoulter.com. She says it all much better than I ever could. Social issues are for the stupid. If we forgot about social issues and focused on the real issues facing this country- the ‘flip flopping’ would be of little concern, since the majority of Mitt’s changes of opinion revolve around abortion.

I know this isn’t what you want to hear but abortion is legal- Roe v Wade is over, we lost- get over it. George W. is pro-life and how has that affected his presidency?

People that vote on social issues don’t have the time or intellect to delve into a politicians voting history, or resume of accomplishments- it’s much easier to be brainless and vote because someone is pro–life or pro-choice, pro-gay marriage or against gay marriage. The truth of the matter is, these opinions will have little impact on your life. The real issues at hand, being the declining economy, healthcare, the war, and immigration are swept under the rug while the mass media plays upon the American’s stupidy of caring about social issues.

Civil unions between gays is going to happen. It’s only a matter of time. Even Mike “I want to change the constitution to be in line with God’s law” can’t change the tidal wave of left wing morality hitting the nation.

To all of you that have posted opinions about Mitt, such as him hating the poor- post some evidence.

For all of you who are looking for a GOP candidate- take some time to read the latest article on http://www.anncoulter.com. She says it all much better than I ever could.

]]> By: mondo cool http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/01/if-you-dont-like-mormons-mitt-flip-flops/#comment-247382 mondo cool Mon, 21 Jan 2008 15:31:57 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4352#comment-247382 Flip - flop vs. panderer.... I happened upon a conservative radio talk show a few days ago, and Dennis Prager, a practicing Jew, reached the same conclusion: people who don't like Romney's religion are more likely to accept any criticism of him - politically, morally, socially, financially - as support for their primary concern about him (Mormonism). He pointed out that there are people who honestly object to Romney's positions, but he was a little incredulous of those whose real objection was Mormonism. He just wanted them to own up to their primary objection. Flip – flop vs. panderer….
I happened upon a conservative radio talk show a few days ago, and Dennis Prager, a practicing Jew, reached the same conclusion: people who don’t like Romney’s religion are more likely to accept any criticism of him – politically, morally, socially, financially – as support for their primary concern about him (Mormonism). He pointed out that there are people who honestly object to Romney’s positions, but he was a little incredulous of those whose real objection was Mormonism. He just wanted them to own up to their primary objection.

]]> By: Ray http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/01/if-you-dont-like-mormons-mitt-flip-flops/#comment-247357 Ray Mon, 21 Jan 2008 00:43:14 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4352#comment-247357 #42 - I've deleted multiple replies, since I'm laughing too hard to respond intelligently. #42 – I’ve deleted multiple replies, since I’m laughing too hard to respond intelligently.

]]> By: Rhonda http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/01/if-you-dont-like-mormons-mitt-flip-flops/#comment-247351 Rhonda Sun, 20 Jan 2008 21:41:27 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4352#comment-247351 The flip side of anti-Mormons in politics is 94% support by Mormons of a Mormon. The flip side of anti-Mormons in politics is 94% support by Mormons of a Mormon.

]]> By: Mark D. http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/01/if-you-dont-like-mormons-mitt-flip-flops/#comment-247344 Mark D. Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:45:19 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4352#comment-247344 Susane, And your evidence for that is? Susane, And your evidence for that is?

]]> By: Susane http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/01/if-you-dont-like-mormons-mitt-flip-flops/#comment-247342 Susane Sun, 20 Jan 2008 19:00:21 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4352#comment-247342 Mormon or not, the main thing to remember about Mitt is that he hates the poor. He's never been poor, he disassociates himself from people who are (yes, even in his church), and he has no tolerance for "hard luck". Poor by Mitt standards would be anyone whose household income is less than $100,000. If that's you, you may want to think about how a Mitt administration might affect you. Mormon or not, the main thing to remember about Mitt is that he hates the poor. He’s never been poor, he disassociates himself from people who are (yes, even in his church), and he has no tolerance for “hard luck”. Poor by Mitt standards would be anyone whose household income is less than $100,000. If that’s you, you may want to think about how a Mitt administration might affect you.

]]> By: Adam Greenwood http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/01/if-you-dont-like-mormons-mitt-flip-flops/#comment-247241 Adam Greenwood Sat, 19 Jan 2008 15:39:48 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4352#comment-247241 <i>I think their willingness to do so, in contrast with others’ unwillingness, might be partly a subtle pro-Mormon bias based on identification, but perhaps more importantly the shared experience of “going along to get along”—or, as we call it in gospel doctrine, of living in the world but not of the world. Lots of Mormons know what it’s like to hold your tongue in certain contexts in order to work together with others to get things done.</i> An interesting point, Rosalynde W. It might also explain why the National Review folks like Romney more than the folks in Iowa--living in NY and DC they have more experience having to work with people who are pretty ideological on the other side. I think their willingness to do so, in contrast with others’ unwillingness, might be partly a subtle pro-Mormon bias based on identification, but perhaps more importantly the shared experience of “going along to get along”—or, as we call it in gospel doctrine, of living in the world but not of the world. Lots of Mormons know what it’s like to hold your tongue in certain contexts in order to work together with others to get things done.

An interesting point, Rosalynde W. It might also explain why the National Review folks like Romney more than the folks in Iowa–living in NY and DC they have more experience having to work with people who are pretty ideological on the other side.

]]> By: bobcat http://timesandseasons.org/index.php/2008/01/if-you-dont-like-mormons-mitt-flip-flops/#comment-247239 bobcat Sat, 19 Jan 2008 14:22:43 +0000 http://www.timesandseasons.org/?p=4352#comment-247239 Someone here nailed it: Mitt's not a flip-flopper; he's a panderer. Someone here nailed it: Mitt’s not a flip-flopper; he’s a panderer.

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