Administrative note
Kaimi Wenger | December 31, 2003
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Most Influential Essay
Matt Evans | December 31, 2003
Without question, the following essay has shaped my world view more than any other. I’ve spent so much time turning the ideas in my head that I can no longer tell where they stop and where mine began.
One of my favorite priesthood or Institute lessons is to pass copies to everyone in [...]
Consecration: A Practical Suggestion
Gordon Smith | December 30, 2003
One of my pet peeves is the comment, often heard in Sunday School, that “the Lord has not asked us to live the law of consecration.” Those who have been to the temple should know better. The more pressing question for me is how to implement this relatively simple law. This seems to be the [...]
Just Curious …
Gordon Smith | December 30, 2003
If you are a regular visitor to this blog, you must have noticed the ever-changing header in the sidebar. The one that says, “Quite possibly the most ______, yet _______, onymous Mormon group blog in history.” When I first started blogging here — on the second day of the life of Times & Seasons — [...]
A (Birth)Day in the Life
Russell Arben Fox | December 30, 2003
It has nothing to do with Mormonism (or does it…?), but I’ve written some rambling reflections on my 35th birthday, and how I feel about what I have (and haven’t) accomplished in my 35 years, here. Enjoy (or not).
Mormons and “American Jesus”
Greg Call | December 30, 2003
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Damnation?
Jim F. | December 30, 2003
At http://www.timesandseasons.org/archives/000213.html#001150 Nate refers to an ancient blog entry he wrote: http://goodoman.blogspot.com/2002_12_08_goodoman_archive.html#85894696. Though the discussion in question was baptism for the dead and some objections by non-LDS to the practice, Nate made a very good point in passing: we don’t really believe in damnation except for those who are LDS.
Famous Mormons
Kaimi Wenger | December 30, 2003
Practically every church member I know likes to talk about famous Mormons. Of course, there aren’t a lot, and my experience has been once the discussion gets past a few well-known members — Steve Young, Orson Scott Card, Dale Murphy, Shawn Bradley, Danny Ainge, Donny & Marie — the conversation tends to skew towards [...]
Natural Disasters
Gordon Smith | December 30, 2003
John P. Pratt’s recent column at Meridian sent me reeling. (Thanks to Brent for the pointer.) While Pratt tries not to overstate his thesis, the gist of the column is that God (sometimes?) punishes local populations for their wickedness by inflicting natural disasters. The Old Testament is replete with such occurrences, but as regular patrons [...]
Church Members and Financial Scams
Kaimi Wenger | December 29, 2003
A recent story in Deseret News discusses yet another recent financial scam that victimized thousands of church members. (Link via Dave). This one, according to the news, was a classic Ponzi scheme.
Church members are, in my observation, unusually susceptible to Ponzi schemes, multi-level marketing, Amway and similar programs, and other get-rich-quick [...]
Insightful Discussion over at Dave’s
Kaimi Wenger | December 29, 2003
I like our lengthy discussions, and do not want this blog to become a “portal” or collection of links a la Instapundit. (”Look at this link. Read the whole thing. Indeed.”).* However, there is a time and place for all things, including basic links.
To wit — I just noticed [...]
Mormon Doctrine: The Legacy
Gordon Smith | December 29, 2003
A few years ago, another law professor asked me what I thought of Richard Posner’s legacy with respect to law and economics. For those of you who do not inhabit this world, Posner is generally credited with popularizing the economic analysis of law, partly through his articles, but largely through the influence of his book, [...]
“Goodly Parents”
Gordon Smith | December 29, 2003
Jim reminds us that next week begins a change in the Gospel Doctrine curriculum. This year’s course of study is, without a doubt, my favorite book in the world, The Book of Mormon. I hope to see a vigorous discussion of Jim’s provocative study questions, but I am going to anticipate him by a week [...]
God and Football
Gordon Smith | December 29, 2003
Living in Wisconsin, I have observed that the line between religion and football is thin. During my formative years, I was the lone Minnesota Vikings fan in a small Wisconsin town. Fortunately for me, the Vikings were quite good during the 1970s … although never quite good enough to win the Super Bowl. More importantly, [...]
Sunday School Lesson 1
Jim F. | December 29, 2003
For some time I have created study notes for members of my Gospel Doctrine class. I hand them out a week before the lesson (unless I’m behind, as has occasionally been the case). For the most part the notes consist of questions about the passage assigned for reading. I have avoided commentary, hoping that the [...]
Meeting Times
Kaimi Wenger | December 28, 2003
One of the familiar New Year’s rites for Mormons is the changing of the meeting times. My ward is moving from 11:30 to 1:30 meeting times. I’m not thrilled — the 11:30 time had its drawbacks (primarily that Sacrament Meeting fell right in the middle of nap time and lunch time), but a [...]
Peace on Earth, Goodwill to Men
Adam Greenwood | December 24, 2003
Our mission Christmases were mostly lonely times, but God gave us a gift on the second one.
We had made little scrolls that we tied in red ribbon. On the scrolls we had printed a short message that said:
“Silver and Gold have we none, but that which we have we give unto you. Two [...]
The Little Drummer Boy
Matt Evans | December 24, 2003
When I was 15, my Grandma Joe cried as she read this story from the newspaper to me and my brothers and sisters. Seeing the story touch her helped it touch me. “I am a poor boy too” has been my favorite line from The Little Drummer Boy ever since.
Eddi’s Service
Russell Arben Fox | December 24, 2003
This is my favorite Christmas poem. It’s funny, and bittersweet, and captures very well, I think, the transcendent point of the humble event at the heart of this holiday, a point powerfully expressed in the carol “In the Bleak Midwinter” when we sing:
What can I give Him / Poor as I am?
If I were a [...]
Evolution
Gordon Smith | December 24, 2003
As is evident from my participation on this blog, I am not a scientist, but I enjoy reading good, non-technical, science writers. One I really like is Carl Zimmer, who blogs at The Loom. He writes a lot about evolution and genetics. Ady Hahn (our guest blogger who is currently on Christmas break) promised to [...]
The Foreknowledge of God
Gordon Smith | December 24, 2003
I just fulfilled a longstanding promise to myself: I finally read the Foundation trilogy by Isaac Asimov. I have had many false starts on this project over the years. Asimov was not a great stylist, though he had many interesting ideas. The Foundation books are animated by one such idea: psychohistory. For those who haven’t [...]
Sex
Kaimi Wenger | December 23, 2003
Is it good, bad, or neutral, to have sex before marriage? This topic comes up often in discussions in many places. The church has taken the unambiguous position that pre-marital sex is wrong. For us as members, what does the church’s teaching mean about its (and our) attitudes about sex generally?
Hugh Nibley on Learning, Working, and Wealth
Russell Arben Fox | December 23, 2003
The STQ: Material Prosperity thread has been a good one to follow; I’ve some strong (if somewhat inchoate) feelings on the whole topic of righteousness and wealth, but haven’t taken the time to put them down. However, both A Humble Scientist and Clark Goble have made reference in their comments to the writings of Hugh [...]
Mere Mormonism
Nate Oman | December 23, 2003
A while back, Russell suggested the possibility of a Mormon holiday to celebrate Joseph Smith’s birthday. Last Sunday, I took at least part of his suggestion to heart in my Elders’ Quorum lesson
Our “High Church” Christmas Eve
Russell Arben Fox | December 23, 2003
The first Christmas my wife and I were together (1993), Melissa wanted to attend a Roman Catholic Christmas midnight mass, a longstanding wish of hers. I’d never attended a midnight mass either, and so we did: late on the evening of December 24th, we and some friends attended a lovely mass at St. Francis of [...]
A Mormon Image: Quilting the Tree of Life
Nate Oman | December 22, 2003
What counts as art is an interesting question. We have a bias toward thinking of art in terms of oil paintings, bronze statues, or marble carvings. One of the unfortunate effects of this bias is that it makes much of the art done by women invisibile. You’ll note that most of the [...]
The Lord’s Prayer
Jim F. | December 22, 2003
I’ve been thinking about prayer lately and would be interested in other’s ideas about some questions that have been part of that thinking. Specifically these question have to do with the Lord’s Prayer (Matthew 6:5-15; Luke 7:1-4; 3 Nephi 13:5-14). Here are the verses in question (from Matthew, the longest version, with the differences from [...]
The beginning from the end
Jim F. | December 22, 2003
As I was preparing my Sunday School lesson for today, I hit on the idea of using the phrase, “know the beginning from the end” as the hook for class discussion. It is an odd phrase, though I hear and see it fairly regularly in LDS talks and writings. My point was that by knowing [...]
It’s a Wonderful Life
Adam Greenwood | December 21, 2003
We just watched It’s a Wonderful Life and I cried like the sentimental gawp I am.
I forget how well done the movie is; I forget how painful the wonderful life is.
Every Artist and the Tree of Life
Adam Greenwood | December 21, 2003
I just got the January Ensign. It contains a collection of artworks on Lehi’s vfision of the Tree of Life (wow, check out that tatting! and the Chinese scroll!).
Lord of the Rings
Gordon Smith | December 20, 2003
I saw the third installment tonight. The triology is an awesome accomplishment, but I still liked the books better than the movie. As you may know already, the movie has generated a plethora of Christian reviews (see here for links), mostly positive. Does this strike anyone else as odd?
Baptisms for the Dead
Gordon Smith | December 20, 2003
This morning I had the privilege of participating in a youth temple trip to Chicago. My job was to act as a witness in baptisms for the dead. While many Mormons revere this ordinance, people outside the Church often take offense. In fact, a story in tomorrow’s New York Times describes how the Church is [...]
Mormon Cursing
Nate Oman | December 19, 2003
While reading Wilford Woodruff’s diaries recently, I discovered that I have been living in a cursed part of the country. What am I to make of this, and the more general phenomena of Mormon cursing?
Should I subscribe to Sunstone again?
Greg Call | December 18, 2003
Sunstone magazine is different things to different people: a gadfly; a breath of fresh air; a gripefest; scholarship for nonscholars; a needed Mormon arts outlet; an enabler of apostate rantings. For me, it was a first introduction to a broader range of Mormon thought than I was raised with. Unlike Nate’s youth, mine [...]
A Delicate Question
Nate Oman | December 18, 2003
In the interest of fostering discussion, I want to solicit thoughts from the vast hordes of T&S readers (that is how we think of you). We all like to hear from loved ones, and you would hate to discourage contact from those who are far away. Thus, how do you approach the delicate [...]
Truth
Kaimi Wenger | December 18, 2003
An interesting discussion has sprung up over at Bob and Logan’s blog (which really needs a catchier name) on the nature of truth. What exactly do church members mean when they say that something (the church, the principle of tithing, the law of gravity) is true? What variations are there in the definition [...]
What Are You Doing on December 23rd?
Russell Arben Fox | December 18, 2003
One interesting point from the Christmas Devotional a couple of weeks back which I’ve thought about a few times since then was that both Elder Faust and President Hinckley made particular note of the fact that Joseph Smith was born during the Christmas season–on December 23, 1805, to be exact. The way they drew attention [...]
CTR Rings to be Banned in France?
Matt Evans | December 17, 2003
As though Americans needed more evidence of the absurdity of France’s government, today Chirac proposed a law to ban students from wearing religious tokens in school. Chirac thinks this is a moral battle — his conscience leads him to prohibit Jewish boys from wearing yarmulkes at school: “In all conscience, I believe [...]
STQ: Material Prosperity
Gordon Smith | December 17, 2003
My Seminary class is just finishing the book of Deuteronomy and moving into Joshua. This is an important moment in the history of Israel, as the Children of Israel are finally allowed to enter the Promised Land. Of course, Moses is deprived of the right to accompany them, and before he leaves he offers a [...]
Families: Isn’t It About Time?
Gordon Smith | December 17, 2003
Many of you will recognize the title of this post as the tag line for the Church’s latest ad campaign. A previous campaign proclaimed, “Time? I’ve got as much as anybody!” We in the Church are obsessed with time. In a post below, Ady discusses the challenges of being an LDS woman and a scientist. [...]
Models of Women and Priesthood
Nate Oman | December 17, 2003
A favorite topic of speculation (and angst) among many Mormons and Mormon-watchers is whether or not women will get the priesthood. It is an interesting topic, but I think that most of the discussions of it are pretty uninteresting. The reason for this, I think, is that they are in the thrall of [...]
Gay Marriage Humor
Gordon Smith | December 16, 2003
This was sent to me by my friend Dan Burk, who is currently a visiting professor at Berkeley:
The consecration of Gene Robison as bishop of the New Hampshire Diocese of the Episcopal Church is an affront to Christians everywhere. I am just thankful that the church’s founder, Henry VIII, and his wife Catherine of [...]
Orson Scott Card and the Wall Street Journal
Adam Greenwood | December 16, 2003
Orson Scott Card has an article on the Wall Street Journal’s website today, explaining why most Democrats are un-American slime (I paraphrase).
Family Honor
Nate Oman | December 16, 2003
I just came across this story discussing a presenation that my father gave a while back at BYU. One writing professor had this to say:
Mormons and the ACLU – Short Redux
Kaimi Wenger | December 16, 2003
A while ago I posted on my blog, discussing whether a good Mormon can also be a good member of the ACLU. (I concluded that it is possible to be both — see the four-part discussion, 1, 2, 3 and 4; see also links to further discussion here). That multi-post discussion in turn [...]
The Mormon Blogosphere
Kaimi Wenger | December 16, 2003
I just noticed that my friend and ward member Logan Bobo now has his own blog. As I look at Logan’s blog, I wondered whether we at Times and Seasons have been neglectful of our peers in the Mormon blogosphere. I think we may have inadvertently neglected to discuss other LDS bloggers. [...]
Christian Taxation
Gordon Smith | December 16, 2003
We have been interviewing candidates for a position as tax professor, but here is a question that I haven’t dared to ask any of them: So, how do you feel about reforming the tax code to accord with moral principles of Judeo-Christian ethics? If you haven’t heard, this is the premise of Professor Susan Pace [...]
What is the Purpose of the BYU Dress and Grooming Code?
Nate Oman | December 15, 2003
BYU is often ridiculed for its dress and grooming code. The basic argument is that it is silly. It places undue emphasis on essentially trivial issues of facial hair and hemlines. A more telling critique claims that by focusing on trivialities it actually affirmatively stunts real moral development.
I think that all of [...]
On Being a Female LDS Scientist
Blog Administration | December 15, 2003
So where do I begin? First of all, there are not many LDS scientists to begin with and I?m not exactly sure why. There are approximately 2000 LDS scientists currently according to this link. I don?t know how many of those are women. What?s interesting is that Utah produces more scientists [...]
Could it be . . . Santa?
Greg Call | December 15, 2003
In the spirit of Kaimi’s Christmas themed post, I offer another musing on the season. My wife Cirila and I have a two-year old. He is just becoming aware of Christmas-time and all the stuff that goes with it. As a result, Cirila and I have been trying to forge a unified [...]
BYU Law School
Nate Oman | December 15, 2003
Since we have been having a discussion about BYU, I thought I would post a little bit about BYU and my particular discipline: law. Although I went to BYU as an undergrad, I didn’t go there for law school. Still, I have friends that did, I know some of the faculty, and I [...]
Ben Olson
Gordon Smith | December 14, 2003
If you do not know the name Ben Olson, you are not a BYU football fan. A few years back, he was the No. 1 high school football prospect in the land, and he chose to attend BYU. After one year as a “redshirt” player (meaning that he did not use one of his years [...]
Saddam
Gordon Smith | December 14, 2003
Like almost everyone, I am thrilled that Saddam is finally in custody. He is a bad man, and the world is a better place when he is not in power. As I see the reactions of the Iraqui people, I feel a cautious joy for them. Cautious because they have a long road yet to [...]
“Chances for learning”
Gordon Smith | December 13, 2003
Here is a scripture that concerns me:
And the people began to be distinguished by ranks, according to their riches and their chances for learning, yea, some were ignorant because of their poverty, and others did receive great learning because of their riches. Some were lifted up in pride, and others were exceedingly humble; some [...]
Christmas and Commercialization
Kaimi Wenger | December 13, 2003
I realize that there is a general belief that Christmas has become terribly over-commercialized. It’s hard not to notice at this time of the year. But is this the answer? Fighting commercialization with, well, more commercialization?
What Did We Learn From Polygamy?
Russell Arben Fox | December 12, 2003
Beware: lengthy reflections on the politico-theological problems of Mormonism follow.
Way down towards the bottom of the comments attached to Nate’s post “How to Make a Mormon Political Theory” (which I never commented on, but should have), Nate makes reference to an article by Fred Gedicks, a BYU law professor, titled “The Integrity of Survival: A [...]
Welcome Guest Blogger Ady Hahn!
Gordon Smith | December 12, 2003
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A Mormon Image: Temple Murals and Art Missionaries
Nate Oman | December 12, 2003
While many members don’t realize it, there is actually a fairly strong tradition of impressionistic painting among Mormon artistists. The origins of the tradition go back to the decision of the Church to send some budding young LDS artists to Paris as “Art Missionaries” in the late 19th century. This painting, a study [...]
Technical Difficulties
Kaimi Wenger | December 12, 2003
Yes, we’ve been having a few last night and this morning. Nothing overly serious, but this site’s admins (such as me) are neophytes when it comes to coding. (”Possibly the most neophyte, yet badly-coded . . .”). Bear with us, we’ll get things fixed again.
UPDATE: Almost all-the-way fixed now, [...]
Teaching the book of Revelation
Jim F. | December 12, 2003
I am a Gospel Doctrine teacher in my ward and I love the job. I like talking about the scriptures with ward members and usually I have to restrain myself from indulging in my interest in symbols, questions of language and translation, New Testament history, etc. I understand that the class isn’t a scholarly class [...]
Mormon Shakespeare’s and Miltons
Adam Greenwood | December 11, 2003
The mysterious Metaphysical Elders (not to be confused with these guys) also discuss the perennial favorite: why aren’t their more Mormon geniuses, if the gift of the Holy Ghost is really on us? See here, and here, and here.
A Fun Discussion
Nate Oman | December 11, 2003
There has been an interesting discussion over at the Metaphysical Elders on the perennial “Iron Rod v. Leahona” debate. In runs from this post to this post. Also, they seem to have added comments, although you have to go to the main page to see them, i.e. you can’t comment on archived posts.
New Blogger!
Nate Oman | December 11, 2003
Jim Faulconer has agreed to come on board as a permanent blogger. Unfortunately, because Jim has real job he will only be posting a couple of times a week.
STQ: Translation
Gordon Smith | December 11, 2003
Ever since Nate and Greg started features, I have had my eye out for something that I could contribute. Tonight, as I was preparing my Seminary lesson for tomorrow, I got some inspiration : how about a Seminary Thought Question? OK, let’s try this out. If you like it, we’ll do more. If you don’t [...]
The “P” Word, Again
Kaimi Wenger | December 10, 2003
Polygamy is in the news once again. CNN reports that an excommunicated member was banned from discussing his ideas about polygamy with his daughter in a child-custody case, and is now suing for the right to teach her about polygamy.
These aren’t the droids you’re looking for
Kaimi Wenger | December 10, 2003
It is sometimes funny to see what google combinations have brought visitors to the site. We just got a hit on our old-version blogger blog (we moved to MT three weeks ago, and will eventually dismantle the old site) from the following Google search:
“topless alberta statutes”
This is particularly odd because none of the words [...]
How to Make a Mormon Political Theory
Nate Oman | December 10, 2003
How should Mormons use Mormonism to think about law and politics? My question is not about what the “right” Mormon answer is to this or that issue. Rather, it is about how we go about constructing a Mormon theology of politics. It seems that we have three possible alternatives.
Mormons as Sports Fans
Gordon Smith | December 10, 2003
After reading the amazing conversation on gay marriage below, I am in the mood for something a little lighter. How about sports? Mormons enjoys sports as much as any group … maybe more than most, since we are sober at sporting events. Anyone out there who is associated with BYU knows that the football team [...]
Fatherhood, Again
Russell Arben Fox | December 9, 2003
Since Adam has been linking to articles from First Things, I suppose I ought to post here also an entry from my blog which refers to what is, in my opinion, one of the best things the magazine has ever run (the fact that it was written by a close friend of mine of course [...]
Churches and the Erosive Intellect
Adam Greenwood | December 9, 2003
First Things also has an entry on the declining fortunes of the American Rabbinate. (scroll down about 7/8ths or keep reading for the relevant excerpt).
The entry has some relation, though imperfect, to our own Church and our own intellectual striving.
The Military and Temptations to Sin
Adam Greenwood | December 9, 2003
First Things reports that a Lieutenant Berry has just been vindicated in his attempts to avoid temptations to sin (scroll about 5/6ths down).
It seems the good lieutenant–a missileer–wished to avoid being alone for 24-48 hour periods with a female officer in underground missile silos.
Against Civic Religion
Nate Oman | December 9, 2003
Some time ago, Russell and Adam challenged me to explain what was wrong with cyrpto-protestant prayers in the public schools. What follows is my response along with some general thoughts on civic religion.
A Mormon Image: The All-Seeing Eye
Nate Oman | December 8, 2003
During the nineteenth-century all-seeing eyes were a common Mormon image. They seem to have been borrowed from Masonry and represented the presence of God. Accordingly, the symbol was frequently associated with temples, and appears in numerous places on the interior and exterior of the Salt Lake Temple. This image, however, is much [...]
State v. Oman
Kaimi Wenger | December 8, 2003
What a surprise! Nate looks like such a mild-mannered guy. Yet, as this case makes clear, the State of Ohio put Nathan Oman in prison for four years for drug trafficking! I’m still trying to figure out how someone can attend Harvard Law School while in an Ohio prison — maybe it [...]
Church Boundaries and Political Gerrymanders
Nate Oman | December 8, 2003
Greg’s post below on the criteria used in drawing ward boundaries, reminds me of another interesting issue: the use of ward boundaries as a criteria for drawing political boundaries
LDS Fiction Writers
Gordon Smith | December 8, 2003
Below we are discussing books in the Mormon Studies genre, but one of our readers — Sid Sharma from Ann Arbor — emailed me to inquire about LDS authors who write “modern, literary fiction.” Good question. Who are some LDS authors we really love to read? Anyone care to share a review of a favorite [...]
Mormons, Polygamy and Gay Marriage
Matt Evans | December 8, 2003
I don’t have time to write the quality of post this topic deserves, but the topic can’t wait for me to write the high-quality edition. Hence this abbreviated post.
Many Mormons have suggested that the Mormon experience with polygamy makes them reluctant to oppose same-sex marriage. Some have gone so far as to accuse [...]
Why Marriage Deserves Constitutional Protection
Matt Evans | December 8, 2003
Maggie Gallagher’s response to conservatives who have expressed qualms about amending the constitution to define marriage is superb. She approaches the issue from two angles. First, on the federalism argument, she points out mundane matters that are part of the constitution, and wonders why these topics merit nationwide uniformity, rather than state-by-state experimentation, [...]
Ward “Gerrymandering”
Greg Call | December 8, 2003
The confluence of Kaimi’s post and a well-written article by Jeffrey Toobin in the latest New Yorker, as well as a recent discussion with a local church member, have led me to wonder: What principles should the Church apply when gerrymandering ward boundaries?
Re: Bushman v. Brodie
Adam Greenwood | December 7, 2003
I was afraid that Greg’s challenge was getting lost in all the posting. Here it is again:
“I want to know, what are the five essential texts in Mormon studies?”
Commenters weighed in with numerous suggestions. Check them out and add your own.
Christmas Devotional
Adam Greenwood | December 7, 2003
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Tithing Settlement
Gordon Smith | December 7, 2003
It’s that time of year when the signup list for tithing settlement goes up on the Bishop’s door. My wife and I always try to get the first appointment, mainly because we usually live some distance from the chapel and we don’t want to make the trek back once we are home. So we had [...]
Duty to stick with a dysfunctional ward
Kaimi Wenger | December 7, 2003
This is a topic that has been on my mind quite a bit lately — what is a member’s duty to stay with a dysfunctional ward? I have been thinking about it because, well, I am currently in a dysfunctional ward. We have a hard time keeping major presidencies (such as the Bishopric [...]
The Federal Government as Public Nuisance
Nate Oman | December 7, 2003
I think that most Mormons are aware of that during the last half of the nineteenth century relations between the Church and the federal government were often chilly at best. Most Mormons, however, are unaware of the some the creative legal tactics employed by their nineteenth-century coreligionists.
My Link to Pearl Harbor
Gordon Smith | December 7, 2003
On December 7, 1941, my father was 16 years old. His life would change forever on that day. Shortly after President Roosevelt told the nation about the “day that shall live in infamy,” my father entered the Navy. He fought on an aircraft carrier in the South Pacific, but don’t ask him about it. Even [...]
Boys club?
Jim F. | December 7, 2003
I wonder why so few women comment on this site or take part in discussions of philosophy as it relates to LDS ideas. Women continue to be in the minority in philosophy everywhere, though they are gaining numbers. But they are almost absent among LDS philosophers and philosopher-lawyers. How come?
Christmas Trees
Jim F. | December 6, 2003
I have sometimes heard of a couple, married for many years, who suddenly divorces, and I’ve wondered how that could happen. But each late November or early December reminds me: it was probably the Christmas tree. I confess that I think they look pretty. I like having one in the house at Christmas. But they [...]
The Risks of Voodoo
Gordon Smith | December 6, 2003
In a comment to my post below, Paul offers the following from Bruce R. McConkie on the story of Balaam’s ass: “This is a true story, a dramatic story; one with a great lesson for all members of the Church; one that involves seeing God, receiving revelation, and facing a destroying angel in whose hand [...]
We’ve Been Busy…
Russell Arben Fox | December 5, 2003
Just to explain my absence…Melissa gave birth to Alison Edra Fox at 2:36pm this afternoon, CST. She weighs 7 lbs. 9 ounces, has a lot of hair, and all her fingers and toes. Melissa is doing fine, and we’re all very, very happy. More reports as they become available….
Thanks!
Gordon Smith | December 5, 2003
A lot of people are reading this blog now. Over the past few days, we have been averaging over 140 visitors per day, and we are headed in that direction again today. I just wanted to take the opportunity to thank all of the visitors, especially those who make great comments. This is a fun [...]
Serpents & The Fall
Gordon Smith | December 5, 2003
In a comment to my entry below about biblical inerrancy (”Balaam’s Ass“), Brent writes in connection with his experience substitute teaching in Seminary:
I came across several commentaries about the serpent speaking and Balaam’s ass. Some of these also mentioned other scriptural references (I think some in Revelations) which I mention “beasts” talking. Some of these [...]
A Mormon Image: The 19th Ward Chapel
Nate Oman | December 5, 2003
When Brigham Young laid out Great Salt Lake City in the 1840s, he modeled it on the Mormon experience in Nuavoo. Thus, the city was divided into wards, which were combined to form the original Salt Lake Stake of Zion. In all there were nineteen of these wards, and they continued to [...]
Balaam’s Ass
Gordon Smith | December 5, 2003
This post picks up on a theme that was touched on in some earlier discussion on the topic of Bible inerrancy. In that earlier discussion, Adam took the position that a presumption of Bible inerrancy was useful, and I am finally writing a response: Balaam’s ass!
Sex and Censorship at NYU
Kaimi Wenger | December 5, 2003
I just have a millisecond to blog today, but I couldn’t pass up the chance to link this story about the (gasp!) despicable censorship at NYU, that well-known bastion of conservative thought. Apparently they are refusing to let a film student film actual sex for her film project.
How Joseph Smith Restored Greek Religion
Nate Oman | December 4, 2003
I’ve been thinking of late about immortality and Mormonism. My question is whether or not you can be a Good Mormon and a Good Homeric Hero. I am unclear on the answer, but Moroni and John Taylor seem to suggest that for at least one Good Mormon being a Homeric Hero was just [...]
…And Now The Movie
Nate Oman | December 4, 2003
Of course we always knew it would happen, but we didn’t think that it would happen so quickly: Times & Seasons has been made into a movie, with Helen Hunt and George Clooney, no less. At anyrate, the script has been written. Check it out here
Hope
Jim F. | December 4, 2003
Next summer I have to give a paper on the loss of hope, despair. Since I have to deliver it and discuss it in another language, I’m starting early. Right now I’m working on trying to give an accurate account of hope on which I can then base a discussion of despair. So, hoping that [...]
A Mormon Image: A Photograph of Joseph?
Nate Oman | December 3, 2003
Some believe that this image is a photograph of the Prophet Joseph Smith. If they are right, it is the only known photographic image of Joseph . . .
What if Davis v Locke arose in Utah?
Matt Evans | December 3, 2003
As I read Dahlia Lithwick’s coverage of the Davis v Locke oral argument, I wondered what approach the court and press would have taken had the case originated in Utah. Dahlia writes:
[Justice Kennedy was] bothered by the fact that Davey had his scholarship revoked simply because he’d declared a double major in pastoral ministries [...]
Philosophy & Scripture
Jim F. | December 3, 2003
I am interested in the question of how to think about scripture and I am an academic philosopher. One consequence is that I?m also interested in how the two things are related to each other. Here are some not-fully articulated thoughts on that question. They won’t come as a surprise to someone who has read [...]
Brother Maxwell and Professor Marsden
Adam Greenwood | December 2, 2003
I’ve just read a remark of Brother Maxwell’s to a group of scholars. He urged them to have a passport to Athens, and use it frequently, while keeping their citizenship solidly in Jerusalem. I take him to mean that our real lives of family, Church, and nation, or of bills, hometeaching, and taxes, [...]
The Church and Politics
Adam Greenwood | December 2, 2003
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The Contradictory Commandments of Adam and Eve
Adam Greenwood | December 2, 2003
In Institute we wondered why God would give contradictory commandments: Adam and Eve were told to multiply and replenish the earth, and they were told not to eat the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil. These commandments, the scriptures plainly state, contradict each other. See 2 Nephi 2:22-23.
Transgression, Strict Liability, and the Atonement
Adam Greenwood | December 2, 2003
As a good Burkean, I see no irony in finding truths in the law, especially the common law, that illuminate the gospel. Gordon’s post below does just that. As James says, “every good gift . . . cometh down from the Father of lights.”
I bring this up because my reading of Moroni 8 [...]
Bushman beats Brodie
Greg Call | December 2, 2003
Perhaps second only to regular features as a reliable blog standby are lists. I know, I know, such posts usually generate endless quibbling about meaningless personal preferences. But I want to propose what I think will be a worthwhile exercise.
I want to know, what are the five essential texts in Mormon studies?
A Mormon Image: C.C.A. Christiansen
Nate Oman | December 2, 2003
Since blogs seem to thrive on regular features, I have decided to start one here at T&S. Because my father is an art historian and a curator at the Museum of Church History and Art, I have always been interested in the images and art that Mormonism has produced. Thus, I will begin [...]
The Utah Domination Clause
Nate Oman | December 2, 2003
Under the Utah Constitution, “[t]here shall be no union of Church and State, nor shall any church dominate the State or interfere with its functions.” The interesting part of this is the Domination and Interference Clauses. What might they mean?
What Power?
Russell Arben Fox | December 2, 2003
Yesterday, Nate wrote that “Wasatch Front Mormons often times fall into the trap of thinking of the Church as a powerful institution.” There is probably a lot of truth to this–and I found Nate’s reflections on the financial situation of the church very interesting–but I found it strange that he connected this observation with the [...]
A New Guest Blogger
Nate Oman | December 2, 2003
We have a new guest blogger: Jim Faulconer! Jim is a professor of philosophy at BYU. You can get a sense of some of his interests from this recent article by him in the Journal of Philosophy and Scripture. Russell ought to appreciate the presence of another non-lawyer on the blog, [...]
Passion Redux
Gordon Smith | December 1, 2003
My entry below about Mel Gibson’s forthcoming film Passion generated some very thoughtful comments that I had overlooked until now. Rather than responding way down there, I thought it best to bring this topic to the top, as it is bound to generate more interest. The focus of the comments — a mini-debate really, between [...]
The Problem with Wasatch Front Mormons
Nate Oman | December 1, 2003
Bear with me. This post is not about what you think it is about. My beef is not with Republican Mormons, social Mormons, Utah Mormons, Jello salad, or any of the other sins that Wasatch Front Mormonism is generally accused of. Rather, I am interested in power.
(The Law of) Agency
Gordon Smith | December 1, 2003
In my course on Business Organizations, I teach the law of principals and agents. Under this body of law, the notion of “free agency” is nonsensical, since a person becomes an “agent” only by attaching himself to a principal, at which point the person is no longer free. By contrast, in religious studies, the term [...]
A Mormon Studies Family
Nate Oman | December 1, 2003
Both of my parents (now divorced) have been deeply involved in Mormon studies for my entire life. Thus, I grew up in a Mormon studies family. My father is a senior curator at the Museum of Church History and Art and was hired by the Church Historical Department a few months before [...]
Russell joins as a permanent blogger
Kaimi Wenger | November 30, 2003
We are happy to welcome Russell aboard as a permanent member of the blog. Now we are only 89 away from a quorum-sized group.
This and that – Administrative
Kaimi Wenger | November 30, 2003
A few quick administrative notes:
1. I will be out of town most of this week, and will be blogging lightly or not at all. Please don’t take my silence as a sign that I agree with anything Nate, Matt or Gordon say.
2. The site seems to be striking a chord [...]
An Image for Kaimi
Nate Oman | November 30, 2003
Here is what I have always thought was the best visual depication of Kaimi’s theory of Book of Mormon geography. The painting is by the wonderful Minerva Teichert.
Nephites and Lamanites Redux
Kaimi Wenger | November 30, 2003
Other things have been keeping me busy, but Nate reminds me that I have yet to follow up on my comments about Native Americans and Lehite descent. Nate suggests that:
Yes it is true that lots and lots of Mormons think that the Book of Mormon provides the only account for Native American ancestry. Yes [...]
Mormon Images
Nate Oman | November 30, 2003
There is a strange schizophrenia about popular images of Mormons. On one hand, we get stereotyped as shinny, well-scrubbed, conservative, paragons of middle American virtues circa 1955. On the other hand, we get stereotyped as dangerous, homicidal, polygamist fanatics. As Gordon points out in his post the latter stereotype popped up recently [...]
Passion
Gordon Smith | November 30, 2003
Have you seen the trailor for Mel Gibson’s film about the last 12 hours of Christ’s life? This has been the subject of much debate, as Jewish leaders raise concerns about anti-Semitism and others respond. Here are some responses from people who have actually seen a rough cut at the behest of the New York [...]
Law & Order: Criminal Intent
Gordon Smith | November 30, 2003
I just saw what was perhaps the most offensive portrayal of the Church that I have ever seen on network television. In an episode of Law & Order: Criminal Intent that originally ran on November 16, a young man (almost 18) is cast as a Manson-like figure. He assembles of group of three young women [...]
Is there an LDS Thanksgiving identity?
Kaimi Wenger | November 29, 2003
As Gordon points out, we all seem to be enjoying our post-Thanksgiving naps just a little too much. Before moving too far on from the Thanksgiving theme, I think it is appropriate to reflect on what Thanksgiving means in particular, to Latter-Day Saints. However, the discussion of what Thanksgiving means to Latter Day [...]
Around the Newsroom
Gordon Smith | November 28, 2003
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Do things look a little different around here?
Kaimi Wenger | November 27, 2003
Yep, we have moved to Movable Type.
We are currently working on updating comments and links. Things may be a bit bumpy for a few days, but we expect any problems to be ironed out quickly. In the meantime, the old site is still available at www.timesandseasons.org/mt/ . And a big thanks to [...]
Happy Thanksgiving!!!
Gordon Smith | November 27, 2003
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He Forgets Not His Own
Russell Arben Fox | November 26, 2003
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Biblical Inerrancy
Adam Greenwood | November 26, 2003
Gordon Smith writes, in comments to Nate’s post on the Historian’s letter: “While the Historian is right about the official Church position — that the Biblical text is not inerrant — you would never guess that this was the Church’s position if you were an anthropologist visiting wards and seminaries. In my experience, many members [...]
Nephites, Lamanites, and Native Americans
Kaimi Wenger | November 26, 2003
I admit it — I started this whole mess, in part because I was quite surprised by some of the Historian’s comments. (This post will include some text which is in the comments section of Nate’s earlier post, for purposes of putting my discussion in one place).
Reading the Book of Mormon
Nate Oman | November 25, 2003
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The “Curse”
Gordon Smith | November 25, 2003
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Mormons and the Bible
Nate Oman | November 25, 2003
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A Mormon Image: Our Army
Nate Oman | November 25, 2003
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Utah, Mormons and Bankruptcy
Nate Oman | November 25, 2003
Utah has the dubious honor of leading the nation in personal bankruptcy rates. According to the Salt Lake Tribune 1 in 37 households in Utah is insolvent. I suspect that this high level of bankruptcy filings may be what has been behind some recent words on debt in general conference. In 1998, [...]
Intro Pages
Nate Oman | November 25, 2003
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A Whole Lot More on Natural Law
Russell Arben Fox | November 25, 2003
In a mad attempt to throw together Kaimi’s post on the “Christian Right” and Nate’s post on natural law, while also tossing in a bit about Catholic and Protestant theology…
A few years ago I dug a little into a group called the World Congress of Families. It, like United Families International, has its roots in [...]
Noel Reynolds, Natural Law, and the Personalized Good
Nate Oman | November 25, 2003
One of my favorite former professors, Noel Reynolds, dropped by and left some very interesting comments on natural law. He begins by faulting the Thomistic natural law tradition for beginning its analysis with Aristotelianism rather than the scriptures, noting that in the scriptures it is either God’s command or our covenant with him [...]
Should Mormons consider the “Christian Right” as friends?
Kaimi Wenger | November 24, 2003
It seems to me that church members are becoming enamored of the political groups which are often identified “Christian Right” — politically powerful, vocally conservative groups like the Family Research Council, American Family Association, and Focus on the Family. I receive many e-mail messages from family members, forwarding petitions or other communiques from such [...]
Mormonism and Natural Law
Nate Oman | November 24, 2003
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My (Mormon) Hang-up with (Opposition to) Gay Marriage
Russell Arben Fox | November 24, 2003
Hello all. My thanks for Nate for inviting me (if only for a while) to participate in this blog, and thanks for the introduction Kaimi. Speaking of such, I notice that Times and Seasons started off without any general explanations or identifying comments. Is that a policy, or just because it was assumed that most [...]
Utah 3-BYU 0">Utah 3-BYU 0
Nate Oman | November 24, 2003
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Guest Blogger
Kaimi Wenger | November 24, 2003
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Hierarchy of Sins?
Gordon Smith | November 24, 2003
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Prohibition is Dead and the Mormons Killed It!
Nate Oman | November 24, 2003
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Safe Site for Kids?
Kaimi Wenger | November 24, 2003
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Gay Marriage — David Brooks and the Conservative Case
Kaimi Wenger | November 24, 2003
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Not quite, Nate
Gordon Smith | November 24, 2003
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Race, History, and Teaching in the Church
Nate Oman | November 23, 2003
I had an experience today related to Kaimi’s discussion of race and hymns. I am the new Elders’ Quorum Instructor in our ward, which like Kaimi’s includes a substantial number of recent, African-American converts. I was teaching from the first chapter of the John Taylor manual, and during my preparation, I decided to [...]
Another post about hymns
Kaimi Wenger | November 22, 2003
Greg’s recent post about hymns made me think again about an issue I’ve been reminded of every several months for the past two years.
I live in the Bronx, and my ward has somewhat unusual demographics. It is probably 60% African-American, including the Bishop and First Counselor, which I had never seen in a U.S. [...]
Against Mardell
Nate Oman | November 22, 2003
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More FARMS Stuff Up
Nate Oman | November 22, 2003
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Sabbath Observance
Gordon Smith | November 22, 2003
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Nate on the Plurality of Divinity">Response to Nate on the Plurality of Divinity
Gordon Smith | November 22, 2003
I don’t see it. You view Paulsen’s position as a “rejection of the idea that God the Father had a father who then had a father and so on ad infinitum,” but nothing in the excerpts you have quoted seems inconsistent with that notion. Perhaps you are resting on this statement: “There is only one [...]
Pratt is Back!
Nate Oman | November 22, 2003
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We’re Disturbing
Nate Oman | November 21, 2003
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Leprosy
Gordon Smith | November 21, 2003
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Re: Suing the Church
Adam Greenwood | November 21, 2003
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Re: Suing the church
Kaimi Wenger | November 21, 2003
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Reason’s Stare
Gordon Smith | November 21, 2003
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Re: A Conversation with Mardell
Adam Greenwood | November 21, 2003
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Re: Morrison on the Environment
Adam Greenwood | November 21, 2003
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Eliza R. Snow in the New York Post
Greg Call | November 21, 2003
A couple of weeks ago I was perusing that paragon of journalistic integrity, the New York Post (today’s cover: “JACKO: Now Get Out of This One!), and saw a phrase that I’d previously only heard sung (much too slowly) in church. The lead of George Will’s column was “Of capital punishment, Massachusetts Gov. Mitt [...]
A Conversation with Mardell
Kaimi Wenger | November 21, 2003
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Morrison on the Environment
Gordon Smith | November 21, 2003
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Mormonism and Nature.
Adam Greenwood | November 20, 2003
Christians have applied the unique resources of their faith to understanding the environmental question, with varying degrees of sophistication. Ad campaigns have asked whether Jesus would drive an SUV (see here and, comically, here), while scholars have drawn on the resources of scripture and of doctrine. It is well. Christianity ought to [...]
Suing the Church
Nate Oman | November 20, 2003
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No Tithing Gossip Here Either
Adam Greenwood | November 20, 2003
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The Confidentiality of Tithing
Gordon Smith | November 20, 2003
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More on Gossip and Tithing
Kaimi Wenger | November 20, 2003
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Gossipping and Tithing
Nate Oman | November 20, 2003
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Utah, Tithing and Generosity
Kaimi Wenger | November 20, 2003
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Let Us Now Praise Righteous Women">Let Us Now Praise Righteous Women
Adam Greenwood | November 20, 2003
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I shock myself, says Canada’s Catholic Prime Minister
Adam Greenwood | November 20, 2003
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ANGELS (AND MORMONS) IN AMERICA
Nate Oman | November 20, 2003
Andrew Sullivan has a take down here of recent crooning at the New York Times about HBOs forthcoming production of Tony Kurshner’s Angels in America. Angles is a play that chronicles the AIDS epedemic in the 1980s, and won a Pulitzer Prize in the 1990s.
What is interesting to me is that the play has [...]
Sacred and Profane
Nate Oman | November 20, 2003
In the spirit of getting some content on this site, I offer the following from the archives of A Good Oman:
A thought on First Unitarian Church of Salt Lake v. Salt Lake City Corporation, 308 F.3d 1114 (2002), the Salt Lake City Main Street case:
In his wonderful book The Sacred and the Profane, Eliade discusses [...]
A GOOD JOKE ALREADY TAKEN
Nate Oman | November 20, 2003
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Whatever I say Three Times is True
Adam Greenwood | November 19, 2003
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Matt Evans
Blog Administration | January 1, 2003
I grew up in Salt Lake City, the oldest of seven kids. My parents divorced when I was 11, an experience that shaped my life in many ways. After graduating from Cottonwood High in 1991, I served a mission in southern Spain and north Africa. When I returned home I [...]
Kristine Haglund
Blog Administration | January 1, 2003
My name is Kristine Haglund, and yes, I’m related to all the Haglunds you’ve ever met–I’m the oldest daughter of Richard (the oldest son of Richard and Grettle of SLC) and Carol Ann, sister to Rich, Evan, J.B., and Erika, cousin to another 47 Haglunds. I’ve lived in Huntsville, Alabama; Chapel Hill, [...]
Wilfried Decoo
Blog Administration | January 1, 2003
I am a native of Belgium – the Flemish side. Born in 1946, I grew up in Antwerp. I obtained my B.A. from the Antwerp Jesuit University, my M.A. from Ghent University – both degrees in Romance languages. As a teacher of French and history I worked a few years in Central Africa for the [...]
Rosalynde Welch
Blog Administration | January 1, 2003
I grew up in Southern California, the daughter of Russ and Christie Frandsen and eldest of their eleven children (including Gabrielle, Naomi, Brigham, Rachel, Jacob, Benjamin, Abraham, Christian, Eva, and Isaac, in case you’re wondering if I’m related to that Frandsen you used to know). In 1992 I graduated from La Canada High School and [...]
Jim Faulconer
Blog Administration | January 1, 2003
Jim Faulconer is a professor of philosophy at Brigham Young University,
the husband of Janice Allen, the father of four and grandfather of
eight, and the Gospel Doctrine teacher in his ward. His academic
specialty is 20th-century European philosophy, particulary the
philosophy of Martin Heidegger and some of his French acolytes. His
hobbies are playing with grandchildren, cooking (and, therefore, [...]
Gordon Smith
Blog Administration | January 1, 2003
When I was growing up in Osseo, Wisconsin in the 1970s, I couldn’t wait to leave for college. (The world looks awfully big and exciting from Osseo.) Although I had designs on some California schools, my best friend, Mike O’Neill, somehow convinced me to attend Brigham Young University, even though I was not a member [...]
Greg Call
Blog Administration | January 1, 2003
I grew up with seven brothers and sisters in Salt Lake City. I started at Brigham Young University in 1992, then served in the California Ventura Mission from 1993 to 1995. Returning to BYU, I married Cirila Kamm in 1997 and graduated with a philosophy degree in 1998. We then moved [...]
Julie M. Smith
Blog Administration | January 1, 2003
I live in Austin, Texas, with my husband, Derrick, an electrical engineer. We have three boys: Simon (’98), Nathan (’01), and Truman (’04). We are a homeschooling family and I also teach at the LDS Institute here in Austin.
I have a BA in English from UT Austin and an MA in Biblical Studies (Theology) from [...]
Kaimi Wenger
Blog Administration | January 1, 2003
Kaimi is a fellow who blogs every now and again, usually when he should be working.
Melissa
Blog Administration | January 1, 2003
Melissa currently teaches at a university in the Northeast.
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Russell Arben Fox
Blog Administration | January 1, 2003
Nate Oman
Blog Administration | January 1, 2003
I grew up in Salt Lake City, Utah (autobiographical blogging here), and attended Brigham Young University from 1993 to 1999. Between 1994 and 1996, I served in the Korea Pusan Mission. While at BYU, I mainly studied political science and philosophy. (I was lucky enough to take several classes from T&S’s Jim Faulconer.) [...]
Frank McIntyre
Blog Administration | January 1, 2003
I was raised in Wichita, Kansas, leaving for BYU in 1993. I majored in
Economics with some philosophy thrown in both because I enjoyed the
philosophy classes and to avoid the English Department (I took a great
class from one Jim F., with Nate Oman in attendance; it was a blast.).
After a mission to Lisbon North, Portugal, [...]
Adam Greenwood
Blog Administration | January 1, 2003
We are the Greenwoods–Adam Hartley and Sara Elizabeth. We live with our daughter Emma Caroline in Peralta, New Mexico. Our oldest daughter, Elizabeth “Betsey” Pearl, died of brain cancer in March of 2005 and is buried in Eagar, Arizona.
We weren’t comfortable with usual biography that mentions education and profession, because it seems [...]
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